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Sep 12, 2012 4:35 PM
I'm excited for iOS6 and the iTunes update. As for the phone....doubt I'll get it.
Sep 12, 2012 4:35pm
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gut

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Sep 12, 2012 4:48 PM
What were you really expecting? Pretty much everything out there right now is marginal upgrades - these phones (outside of some games) are more powerful than what current applications can even fully harness. Yeah, it would be cool to have a phone as powerful as a laptop, but there's no real laptop applications!

It's got LTE, right? What more did you really expect? Pretty much about OS capabilities going forward (and at which time they can run a fully functional integrated Office suite you'll THEN need some serious power).
Sep 12, 2012 4:48pm
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gut

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Sep 12, 2012 4:50 PM
Forgot to add - it's Apple. They no longer innovate, they litigate.
Sep 12, 2012 4:50pm
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Sep 12, 2012 4:50 PM
Looks pretty nice. If I had an upgrade right now I'd think about getting one.
Sep 12, 2012 4:50pm
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Sep 12, 2012 4:54 PM
From a practical sense, it's a nice phone. From a technical perspective, it's nothing too special for today's market.
Sep 12, 2012 4:54pm
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I Wear Pants

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Sep 12, 2012 4:59 PM
gut;1269048 wrote:What were you really expecting? Pretty much everything out there right now is marginal upgrades - these phones (outside of some games) are more powerful than what current applications can even fully harness. Yeah, it would be cool to have a phone as powerful as a laptop, but there's no real laptop applications!

It's got LTE, right? What more did you really expect? Pretty much about OS capabilities going forward (and at which time they can run a fully functional integrated Office suite you'll THEN need some serious power).
I expected better resolution and a better camera. Hell, even the new Lumia 920 has better specs than this and it's a Windows Phone which are usually behind in the spec war (because the OS is really optimized but still).
Sep 12, 2012 4:59pm
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gut

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Sep 12, 2012 5:05 PM
But better resolution is overkill. Beyond like 18" from your face, it IS a retina display. Pushing more pixels doesn't do the battery any favors, either.

Agree on the camera. No one seems that interested in breaking barriers there.

I thought 512ram in the dual-core version was really weak. IOS doesn't need as much memory as Android because it multi-tasks differently, but that's lame. I wouldn't touch a phone with less than 1gig ram these days.
Sep 12, 2012 5:05pm
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Sep 12, 2012 5:07 PM
gut;1269076 wrote:But better resolution is overkill. Beyond like 18" from your face, it IS a retina display. Pushing more pixels doesn't do the battery any favors, either.

Agree on the camera. No one seems that interested in breaking barriers there.

I thought 512ram in the dual-core version was really weak. IOS doesn't need as much memory as Android because it multi-tasks differently, but that's lame. I wouldn't touch a phone with less than 1gig ram these days.
Nokia is.

Better resolution isn't pointless and who gives a shit if it's a "retina" display. It's lower resolution than almost any other high end phone coming out now.
Sep 12, 2012 5:07pm
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Sep 12, 2012 5:22 PM
What about the ipad? Anything worthwhile about it?
Sep 12, 2012 5:22pm
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gut

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Sep 12, 2012 5:23 PM
You understand what it means to be a retina display, correct?
Sep 12, 2012 5:23pm
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Sep 12, 2012 5:28 PM
gut;1269099 wrote:You understand what it means to be a retina display, correct?
So damn badass you can't even see the pixelization!!!! :cool:
Sep 12, 2012 5:28pm
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Sep 12, 2012 5:29 PM
Was thinking of selling my 4s and picking up the 5, but I think I'll just hold tight until the 2nd generation 5 comes out next year(on my contract cycle). I just don't see anything I really need on the 5.
Sep 12, 2012 5:29pm
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Sep 12, 2012 5:35 PM
gut;1269099 wrote:You understand what it means to be a retina display, correct?
You understand that's just a proprietary term that doesn't mean anything right?

Other phones on the market have higher resolution. Them not being called "retina" displays doesn't make that inferior. Off the top of my head the Inspire and the Lumia 920 have both higher overall resolution and higher pixel density than the iPhone 5 screen. What is it about the "retina" display that makes it so much better in that case?


Wonder how long it is before they get sued by Nokia?
Sep 12, 2012 5:35pm
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Sep 12, 2012 6:25 PM
gut;1269048 wrote:What were you really expecting? Pretty much everything out there right now is marginal upgrades - these phones (outside of some games) are more powerful than what current applications can even fully harness. Yeah, it would be cool to have a phone as powerful as a laptop, but there's no real laptop applications!

It's got LTE, right? What more did you really expect? Pretty much about OS capabilities going forward (and at which time they can run a fully functional integrated Office suite you'll THEN need some serious power).
I dont have any expectations. All I'm saying is that Apple didnt do a good enough job making this phone say "You should replace your 4 for this"
Sep 12, 2012 6:25pm
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Sep 12, 2012 6:30 PM
j_crazy;1269097 wrote:What about the ipad? Anything worthwhile about it?

Another announcement set for next month. Probably then.
Sep 12, 2012 6:30pm
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Sep 12, 2012 6:34 PM
Not real impressed with what they put out phone wise....under spec'd. Oh well, not like I was going to get one anyhow. I figured they would have something to shock people other than the fanboys....but there are a ton of phones out there that are better. With them losing some market share over the last few years, this was a wasted chance at gaining it back.
Sep 12, 2012 6:34pm
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Sep 12, 2012 6:36 PM
I Wear Pants;1269107 wrote:You understand that's just a proprietary term that doesn't mean anything right?

Other phones on the market have higher resolution. Them not being called "retina" displays doesn't make that inferior. Off the top of my head the Inspire and the Lumia 920 have both higher overall resolution and higher pixel density than the iPhone 5 screen. What is it about the "retina" display that makes it so much better in that case?


Wonder how long it is before they get sued by Nokia?
I think the Rezound, S3 and maybe even the new Razrs coming out have better pixel density. I don't understand how anyone could have this phone and the S3 side by side and choose the iPhone....unless you want a smaller screen.
Sep 12, 2012 6:36pm
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Sep 12, 2012 6:37 PM
We all say it's underwhelming, as do the analysts.

Apple will still probably sell 100 quadrillion of them on launch day though.
Sep 12, 2012 6:37pm
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Sep 12, 2012 6:39 PM
I Wear Pants;1269134 wrote:We all say it's underwhelming, as do the analysts.

Apple will still probably sell 100 quadrillion of them on launch day though.
No doubt, people are faithful to apple for sure. I, however am not faithful to my HTC brand anymore.....fuck this phone.
Sep 12, 2012 6:39pm
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Sep 12, 2012 6:41 PM
wes_mantooth;1269133 wrote:I think the Rezound, S3 and maybe even the new Razrs coming out have better pixel density. I don't understand how anyone could have this phone and the S3 side by side and choose the iPhone....unless you want a smaller screen.
S3 has better resolution but not pixel density. But it's hard to compare because the S3 uses Pentile I think which instead of 3 subpixels uses 2 and shares with those around it.

The Rezound is indeed better, 342 ppi. iPhone (4,4s, and 5) is 326ppi. Lumia 920 is 332.

I'm not faithful to any brand. I love the shit out of my Samsung Focus S but my next phone will likely be the Lumia 920 over the next Samsung Windows Phone simply because the build quality and camera seems better.
Sep 12, 2012 6:41pm
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Sep 12, 2012 6:59 PM
justincredible;1268994 wrote:It's like they shouldn't even have a marketing department or something.
Someone's marketing shouldn't be on the news. They should be commercials.
Sep 12, 2012 6:59pm
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like_that

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Sep 12, 2012 8:31 PM
WebFire;1269156 wrote:Someone's marketing shouldn't be on the news. They should be commercials.
LOL.

You realize that marketing and advertising these days isn't just tv commercials and print ads right?
Sep 12, 2012 8:31pm
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gut

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Sep 12, 2012 8:42 PM
I Wear Pants;1269107 wrote:You understand that's just a proprietary term that doesn't mean anything right?
Yes, based on the fact that the human eye can't distinguish a higher density of pixels. Higher resolutions are a waste of money and battery.
Sep 12, 2012 8:42pm
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Sep 12, 2012 9:19 PM
I got rid of my 4 last year for a note. I like it but I'll be getting the S3 instead of the 5. It just seems like a very minimal upgrade. Plus the screen is still too small.
Sep 12, 2012 9:19pm
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Sep 12, 2012 9:49 PM
like_that;1269224 wrote:LOL.

You realize that marketing and advertising these days isn't just tv commercials and print ads right?
Oh really? Thanks for the insight.

Point is, they can have their event and it can be covered by the tech world. But CNN? Fox News? No. It's not "news".
Sep 12, 2012 9:49pm