O-Trap
Posts: 14,994
Sep 6, 2012 1:11am
What's the purpose of these? Are they sincerely more than just a giant pat on the back for the nominee (or incumbent, who is always presumed to be the nominee)?
Is there an actual function of them?
Is there an actual function of them?
Cleveland Buck
Posts: 5,126
Sep 6, 2012 1:32am
Not anymore.O-Trap;1262582 wrote: Is there an actual function of them?
believer
Posts: 8,153
Sep 6, 2012 5:21am
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gut
Posts: 15,058
Sep 6, 2012 10:53am
A giant waste of taxpayer money.
It's politics at its worst. A bunch of old men and women acting like retarded groupies fawning over sunshine up their ass and wool over their eyes.
It's politics at its worst. A bunch of old men and women acting like retarded groupies fawning over sunshine up their ass and wool over their eyes.
IggyPride00
Posts: 6,482
Sep 6, 2012 10:55am
Conventions have gone the way of the Dodo bird.
There was a time they actually meant something and served a very important purpose, now they are just free scripted propaganda pieces for the parties.
There was a time they actually meant something and served a very important purpose, now they are just free scripted propaganda pieces for the parties.
O-Trap
Posts: 14,994
Sep 6, 2012 11:31am
Doesn't even seem like worthwhile propaganda. The people who show up are already in support. Seems like a mix of intellectual incest and mental masturbation.IggyPride00;1262825 wrote:Conventions have gone the way of the Dodo bird.
There was a time they actually meant something and served a very important purpose, now they are just free scripted propaganda pieces for the parties.
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gut
Posts: 15,058
Sep 6, 2012 11:35am
That's a good way of describing it.O-Trap;1262848 wrote: Seems like a mix of intellectual incest and mental masturbation.
I think these people would cheer almost anything. If you got up there and said "GFY" loud enough and with enough enthusiasm you'd get a roar from the crowd.
O-Trap
Posts: 14,994
Sep 6, 2012 11:40am
I literally laughed out loud. Glad today is a work-from-home day for me. Probably the funniest thing I'll read today.gut;1262855 wrote: If you got up there and said "GFY" loud enough and with enough enthusiasm you'd get a roar from the crowd.
jhay78
Posts: 1,917
Sep 6, 2012 12:20pm
Last night I heard Clinton listing off his accomplishments the past few years, and happened to mention GWBush along with several other former presidents. Imagine that guy's name (GWBush) being used by Bill Clinton in that environment- and the crowd cheered! Great stuff.gut;1262855 wrote:That's a good way of describing it.
I think these people would cheer almost anything. If you got up there and said "GFY" loud enough and with enough enthusiasm you'd get a roar from the crowd.
ptown_trojans_1
Posts: 7,632
Sep 6, 2012 12:35pm
I had this exact convo over the weekend with friends, who are R and D, and down the middle. We all said they serve no purpose now a days, other than a huge pep rally that only plays to the base. Real voters won't care or matter about them. I haven't watched a second of them, and find them a huge waste of time and money.
I would rather have 2-3 more actual long form debates between Obama and Romney than this crap.
I would rather have 2-3 more actual long form debates between Obama and Romney than this crap.
ernest_t_bass
Posts: 24,984
Sep 6, 2012 12:39pm
How is it taxpayer money? That would be illegal, wouldn't it?gut;1262821 wrote:A giant waste of taxpayer money.
O-Trap
Posts: 14,994
Sep 6, 2012 12:42pm
ptown_trojans_1;1262939 wrote:I had this exact convo over the weekend with friends, who are R and D, and down the middle. We all said they serve no purpose now a days, other than a huge pep rally that only plays to the base. Real voters won't care or matter about them. I haven't watched a second of them, and find them a huge waste of time and money.
I would rather have 2-3 more actual long form debates between Obama and Romney than this crap.
I'd like to see an actual debate with all the candidates that will actually be on the ballot, honestly.
Although I would definitely like to see a series of long-form debates between several of the candidates as well.
Well, it's money that is from taxpayers, but I don't think it's tax monies.ernest_t_bass;1262943 wrote:How is it taxpayer money? That would be illegal, wouldn't it?
So yes and no.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Sep 6, 2012 12:44pm
The rhetoric from both parties is pretty suffocating. One of the main reasons I like Ron Paul is he's absolutely void of rhetoric.
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gut
Posts: 15,058
Sep 6, 2012 1:18pm
I guess that $3 contribution on your tax return isn't something to quibble with since it's technically voluntary (ignoring where that $3 comes from with all the people who don't pay anything to begin with). But that barely covers the security for the events.ernest_t_bass;1262943 wrote:How is it taxpayer money? That would be illegal, wouldn't it?
http://uspolitics.about.com/od/Political-Conventions/a/Taxpayers-On-The-Hook-For-Political-Conventions.htm
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gut
Posts: 15,058
Sep 6, 2012 1:28pm
I caught that too. Critical thought gets checked at the door (along with ID's, haha).jhay78;1262920 wrote:Last night I heard Clinton listing off his accomplishments the past few years, and happened to mention GWBush along with several other former presidents. Imagine that guy's name (GWBush) being used by Bill Clinton in that environment- and the crowd cheered! Great stuff.
O-Trap
Posts: 14,994
Sep 6, 2012 1:43pm
Did get a kick out of the IDs thing. No ID required to vote. Just an ID required to show up in support at the convention.gut;1263004 wrote:I caught that too. Critical thought gets checked at the door (along with ID's, haha).
I call disenfranchisement of the poor and racial minorities.
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gut
Posts: 15,058
Sep 6, 2012 2:05pm
They probably only carded old white males. Wouldn't want any Republicans sneaking in to spoil the hate-fest.O-Trap;1263020 wrote:Did get a kick out of the IDs thing. No ID required to vote. Just an ID required to show up in support at the convention.
I call disenfranchisement of the poor and racial minorities.
Heretic
Posts: 18,820
Sep 6, 2012 2:08pm
Especially since we all learned what happens when a minority gets in the other hate-fest. Damn zoo animals...gut;1263047 wrote:They probably only carded old white males. Wouldn't want any Republicans sneaking in to spoil the hate-fest.
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Mister Twister
Posts: 185
Sep 6, 2012 4:05pm
Conventions and Electoral College are about as useful as tits on a boar. More than likely served a great purpose 150-200 years ago, but are just a waste of money now.
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gut
Posts: 15,058
Sep 6, 2012 4:46pm
What do you propose to replace the Electoral College? Do you really want group think from dense population centers like CA, NY and Chicago to predetermine elections for you?Mister Twister;1263201 wrote:Conventions and Electoral College are about as useful as tits on a boar.
O-Trap
Posts: 14,994
Sep 6, 2012 5:11pm
I agree with you here.gut;1263241 wrote:What do you propose to replace the Electoral College? Do you really want group think from dense population centers like CA, NY and Chicago to predetermine elections for you?
thePITman
Posts: 3,867
Sep 7, 2012 10:41am
http://www.fox19.com/story/19479204/reality-check-dnc-runs-over-delegates-with-scripted-platform-vote
I think this guy says it well. Both Republicans and Democrats have turned it into something else. Watch the video. Both Rep's and Dem's are guilty. Just ridiculous. This is why I hate politcs. All politics.
I think this guy says it well. Both Republicans and Democrats have turned it into something else. Watch the video. Both Rep's and Dem's are guilty. Just ridiculous. This is why I hate politcs. All politics.