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Con_Alma
Posts: 12,198
Aug 24, 2012 9:32am
Report that multiple people have been shot.
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bigkahuna
Posts: 4,454
Aug 24, 2012 9:35am
Just saw it on yahoo. There are virtually no facts out yet though.
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Sonofanump
Aug 24, 2012 9:36am
Gunman is dead.
justincredible
Posts: 32,056
Aug 24, 2012 10:08am
That's good.Sonofanump;1253638 wrote:Gunman is dead.
BigAppleBuckeye
Posts: 2,935
Aug 24, 2012 10:10am
They are saying it was a disgruntled employee from a business inside the Empire State Building. At least 2 of the people are dead (in addition to the gunman) ... unreal. So sad.
Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Aug 24, 2012 10:10am
Cops were going wild on my way to work this morning. I'm a few blocks from there. Still no real details on the situation.
I saw this in a comment on a short new blurb when the story broke.
"CNN says it was a robbery gone bad, Drudge Report says a dispute between co-workers"
I saw this in a comment on a short new blurb when the story broke.
"CNN says it was a robbery gone bad, Drudge Report says a dispute between co-workers"
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sjmvsfscs08
Posts: 2,963
Aug 24, 2012 10:43am
But I thought you couldn't carry guns in New York City!??!?!?!?!?!?!??!
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Aug 24, 2012 10:52am
Yep, gun laws work, don't they?sjmvsfscs08;1253694 wrote:But I thought you couldn't carry guns in New York City!??!?!?!?!?!?!??!
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Aug 24, 2012 10:59am
Original shooting actually took place a block away from the ESB. Fired worker shot his boss in the face. Then a shootout with police made it's way down the block.
tk421
Posts: 8,500
Aug 24, 2012 2:03pm
You mean someone dared take a gun into Bloomberg's city?!
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Manhattan Buckeye
Posts: 7,566
Aug 25, 2012 6:48am
At least they weren't drinking a 24 oz. soda.tk421;1253956 wrote:You mean someone dared take a gun into Bloomberg's city?!
No disrespect meant to the innocent victims, a horrible situation.
OSH
Posts: 4,145
Aug 25, 2012 10:39am
I'm tired of all this violent crime. I wish there were a solution and a fix to this.
Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Aug 25, 2012 10:57am
So I'm hearing that all of the 9 bystanders were hit by police fired bullets.
tk421
Posts: 8,500
Aug 25, 2012 5:14pm
That's typical police, hit the innocent bystanders rather than the shooter.
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Aug 25, 2012 6:39pm
I'm pretty sure they hit the shooter. :rolleyes:
Trueblue23
Posts: 7,463
Aug 25, 2012 7:08pm
I'm not into politics by any means, but it seems like gun control would be a good thing? Yea, bystanders were hit by cops... But they wouldn't have if this dude wouldn't have killed someone.
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queencitybuckeye
Posts: 7,117
Aug 25, 2012 7:30pm
He broke the law against murder, do you have reason to believe he'd obey a gun law?Trueblue23;1254766 wrote:I'm not into politics by any means, but it seems like gun control would be a good thing? Yea, bystanders were hit by cops... But they wouldn't have if this dude wouldn't have killed someone.
tk421
Posts: 8,500
Aug 25, 2012 7:35pm
I'm thinking the kind of gun control they need is more time at the range. I don't understand the liberal belief that more gun laws will do anything when criminals already break the ones we have. What is the deal with that? You think these people that do these shootings give a rat's ass about gun control laws?Trueblue23;1254766 wrote:I'm not into politics by any means, but it seems like gun control would be a good thing? Yea, bystanders were hit by cops... But they wouldn't have if this dude wouldn't have killed someone.
Trueblue23
Posts: 7,463
Aug 25, 2012 8:05pm
What I mean is if it were more difficult for him to actually get the gun, it may not have happened.queencitybuckeye;1254773 wrote:He broke the law against murder, do you have reason to believe he'd obey a gun law?
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Aug 25, 2012 8:39pm
NYC has about the toughest gun laws in the country. He certainly did not have it there legally. Why do people think banning guns will make a criminal think "hmmm, guns are illegal. I shouldn't possess one"?Trueblue23;1254787 wrote:What I mean is if it were more difficult for him to actually get the gun, it may not have happened.
tk421
Posts: 8,500
Aug 25, 2012 8:41pm
Exactly. You can't get a gun legally in NYC hardly. He already broke the existing law, why would additional laws do anything? Liberals are living in a fantasy land in regards to gun control. Chicago is the same way, you can't hardly get a gun legally there, some of the toughest in the country, yet 19 people were killed yesterday. How's that gun control working out?
gorocks99
Posts: 10,760
Aug 25, 2012 10:08pm
Guns in people's hands would do little to control gang shootings in Chicago IMO. If gangs are going into a situation armed, they're expecting the other party to be armed as well. That's not saying that gun control is necessarily the issue, just that it placing more firearms in citizen's hands wouldn't necessarily​ solve it.tk421;1254812 wrote:Exactly. You can't get a gun legally in NYC hardly. He already broke the existing law, why would additional laws do anything? Liberals are living in a fantasy land in regards to gun control. Chicago is the same way, you can't hardly get a gun legally there, some of the toughest in the country, yet 19 people were killed yesterday. How's that gun control working out?
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Aug 25, 2012 10:35pm
I don't think he was saying it would. But the proof is there that the tough guns laws don't drive down gun crime.gorocks99;1254837 wrote:Guns in people's hands would do little to control gang shootings in Chicago IMO. If gangs are going into a situation armed, they're expecting the other party to be armed as well. That's not saying that gun control is necessarily the issue, just that it placing more firearms in citizen's hands wouldn't necessarily​ solve it.
O-Trap
Posts: 14,994
Aug 26, 2012 1:04am
Guns are too big an industry for that to be effective. Hell, they're incredibly easy to get while staying 100% off the books.Trueblue23;1254787 wrote:What I mean is if it were more difficult for him to actually get the gun, it may not have happened.
It's a lot like drugs. Drugs are illegal to sell, distribute, possess, or use. How easy would it be for you to get a little ganja?
Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Aug 26, 2012 10:20am
Only 3 pedestrians hit with rounds, the rest fragments.