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Con_Alma

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Aug 24, 2012 9:32 AM
Report that multiple people have been shot.
Aug 24, 2012 9:32am
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bigkahuna

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Aug 24, 2012 9:35 AM
Just saw it on yahoo. There are virtually no facts out yet though.
Aug 24, 2012 9:35am
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Sonofanump

Aug 24, 2012 9:36 AM
Gunman is dead.
Aug 24, 2012 9:36am
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Aug 24, 2012 10:08 AM
Sonofanump;1253638 wrote:Gunman is dead.
That's good.
Aug 24, 2012 10:08am
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BigAppleBuckeye

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Aug 24, 2012 10:10 AM
They are saying it was a disgruntled employee from a business inside the Empire State Building. At least 2 of the people are dead (in addition to the gunman) ... unreal. So sad.
Aug 24, 2012 10:10am
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Automatik

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Aug 24, 2012 10:10 AM
Cops were going wild on my way to work this morning. I'm a few blocks from there. Still no real details on the situation.

I saw this in a comment on a short new blurb when the story broke.

"CNN says it was a robbery gone bad, Drudge Report says a dispute between co-workers"
Aug 24, 2012 10:10am
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sjmvsfscs08

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Aug 24, 2012 10:43 AM
But I thought you couldn't carry guns in New York City!??!?!?!?!?!?!??!
Aug 24, 2012 10:43am
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WebFire

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Aug 24, 2012 10:52 AM
sjmvsfscs08;1253694 wrote:But I thought you couldn't carry guns in New York City!??!?!?!?!?!?!??!
Yep, gun laws work, don't they? :p
Aug 24, 2012 10:52am
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WebFire

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Aug 24, 2012 10:59 AM
Original shooting actually took place a block away from the ESB. Fired worker shot his boss in the face. Then a shootout with police made it's way down the block.
Aug 24, 2012 10:59am
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tk421

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Aug 24, 2012 2:03 PM
You mean someone dared take a gun into Bloomberg's city?!
Aug 24, 2012 2:03pm
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Manhattan Buckeye

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Aug 25, 2012 6:48 AM
tk421;1253956 wrote:You mean someone dared take a gun into Bloomberg's city?!
At least they weren't drinking a 24 oz. soda.

No disrespect meant to the innocent victims, a horrible situation.
Aug 25, 2012 6:48am
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Aug 25, 2012 10:39 AM
I'm tired of all this violent crime. I wish there were a solution and a fix to this.
Aug 25, 2012 10:39am
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Aug 25, 2012 10:57 AM
So I'm hearing that all of the 9 bystanders were hit by police fired bullets.
Aug 25, 2012 10:57am
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Aug 25, 2012 5:14 PM
That's typical police, hit the innocent bystanders rather than the shooter.
Aug 25, 2012 5:14pm
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WebFire

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Aug 25, 2012 6:39 PM
I'm pretty sure they hit the shooter. :rolleyes:
Aug 25, 2012 6:39pm
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Aug 25, 2012 7:08 PM
I'm not into politics by any means, but it seems like gun control would be a good thing? Yea, bystanders were hit by cops... But they wouldn't have if this dude wouldn't have killed someone.
Aug 25, 2012 7:08pm
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Aug 25, 2012 7:30 PM
Trueblue23;1254766 wrote:I'm not into politics by any means, but it seems like gun control would be a good thing? Yea, bystanders were hit by cops... But they wouldn't have if this dude wouldn't have killed someone.
He broke the law against murder, do you have reason to believe he'd obey a gun law?
Aug 25, 2012 7:30pm
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Aug 25, 2012 7:35 PM
Trueblue23;1254766 wrote:I'm not into politics by any means, but it seems like gun control would be a good thing? Yea, bystanders were hit by cops... But they wouldn't have if this dude wouldn't have killed someone.
I'm thinking the kind of gun control they need is more time at the range. I don't understand the liberal belief that more gun laws will do anything when criminals already break the ones we have. What is the deal with that? You think these people that do these shootings give a rat's ass about gun control laws?
Aug 25, 2012 7:35pm
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Aug 25, 2012 8:05 PM
queencitybuckeye;1254773 wrote:He broke the law against murder, do you have reason to believe he'd obey a gun law?
What I mean is if it were more difficult for him to actually get the gun, it may not have happened.
Aug 25, 2012 8:05pm
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Aug 25, 2012 8:39 PM
Trueblue23;1254787 wrote:What I mean is if it were more difficult for him to actually get the gun, it may not have happened.
NYC has about the toughest gun laws in the country. He certainly did not have it there legally. Why do people think banning guns will make a criminal think "hmmm, guns are illegal. I shouldn't possess one"?
Aug 25, 2012 8:39pm
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Aug 25, 2012 8:41 PM
Exactly. You can't get a gun legally in NYC hardly. He already broke the existing law, why would additional laws do anything? Liberals are living in a fantasy land in regards to gun control. Chicago is the same way, you can't hardly get a gun legally there, some of the toughest in the country, yet 19 people were killed yesterday. How's that gun control working out?
Aug 25, 2012 8:41pm
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Aug 25, 2012 10:08 PM
tk421;1254812 wrote:Exactly. You can't get a gun legally in NYC hardly. He already broke the existing law, why would additional laws do anything? Liberals are living in a fantasy land in regards to gun control. Chicago is the same way, you can't hardly get a gun legally there, some of the toughest in the country, yet 19 people were killed yesterday. How's that gun control working out?
Guns in people's hands would do little to control gang shootings in Chicago IMO. If gangs are going into a situation armed, they're expecting the other party to be armed as well. That's not saying that gun control is necessarily the issue, just that it placing more firearms in citizen's hands wouldn't necessarily​ solve it.
Aug 25, 2012 10:08pm
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WebFire

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Aug 25, 2012 10:35 PM
gorocks99;1254837 wrote:Guns in people's hands would do little to control gang shootings in Chicago IMO. If gangs are going into a situation armed, they're expecting the other party to be armed as well. That's not saying that gun control is necessarily the issue, just that it placing more firearms in citizen's hands wouldn't necessarily​ solve it.
I don't think he was saying it would. But the proof is there that the tough guns laws don't drive down gun crime.
Aug 25, 2012 10:35pm
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Aug 26, 2012 1:04 AM
Trueblue23;1254787 wrote:What I mean is if it were more difficult for him to actually get the gun, it may not have happened.
Guns are too big an industry for that to be effective. Hell, they're incredibly easy to get while staying 100% off the books.

It's a lot like drugs. Drugs are illegal to sell, distribute, possess, or use. How easy would it be for you to get a little ganja?
Aug 26, 2012 1:04am
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Aug 26, 2012 10:20 AM
Only 3 pedestrians hit with rounds, the rest fragments.
Aug 26, 2012 10:20am