Fab1b
Posts: 12,949
Aug 7, 2012 11:44am
Watching the olympic Greco rounds are painful. I hate the rules and some of the pts awarded by the refs are mind boggling. Wonder why wrestling outside the wrestling community struggles look no further!
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Aug 7, 2012 12:07pm
Agreed, it's boring as hell to watch. It's turned into a hand fighting sumo match.
The new rules haven't done much better for freestyle too. I think it is pathetic how they have taken conditioning out of the sport.
The new rules haven't done much better for freestyle too. I think it is pathetic how they have taken conditioning out of the sport.
Fab1b
Posts: 12,949
Aug 7, 2012 12:08pm
Agree fully on the conditioning aspect.
cruiser_96
Posts: 7,536
Aug 7, 2012 12:19pm
Amen, gentlemen.
said_aouita
Posts: 8,532
Aug 7, 2012 12:31pm
Lopez of Cuba is a very scary human being.
He's only 29 years old. Rex Ryan should send a Jet for him.
Agree with everyone's comments above. Greco is still better than synchronized swimming and diving. Can't wait for Freestyle.
That is all
He's only 29 years old. Rex Ryan should send a Jet for him.
Agree with everyone's comments above. Greco is still better than synchronized swimming and diving. Can't wait for Freestyle.
That is all
Fab1b
Posts: 12,949
Aug 7, 2012 1:21pm
Lopez is monster!
mcburg93
Posts: 3,167
Aug 7, 2012 4:50pm
I thought I was the only person that thought this was horrible to watch. Wow what has it become.
Fab1b
Posts: 12,949
Aug 7, 2012 5:22pm
I jumped on the mat.com forums as well and there is alot of complaining as well about the rules
said_aouita
Posts: 8,532
Aug 7, 2012 5:23pm
Get rid of the stupid push out rule= problem solved.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Aug 7, 2012 6:04pm
said_aouita;1242015 wrote:Get rid of the stupid push out rule= problem solved.
Get rid of the best 2 periods out of 3 as well.
Fab1b
Posts: 12,949
Aug 7, 2012 6:22pm
The two period rule is beyond obsurd, that is when I really gave up on freestyle and greco. A match where you could technically outscore your opponent and still lose because you scored your points in one period never made any lick of sense to me. Then all the clinch stuff, ball draws, challenges, etc.....UGH
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Aug 7, 2012 9:45pm
You just don't see this type of exciting action anymore. Greco is unbearable. I used to enjoy watching the other countries go at it, but now I can't watch Greco unless an American is in it.
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Fab1b
Posts: 12,949
Aug 7, 2012 10:16pm
^That's what I'm talkin bout!
THE4RINGZ
Posts: 16,816
Aug 7, 2012 11:26pm
I think Greco is a great training technique for younger wrestlers, but the current competition rules are insufferable.
Not sure if these latest revisions were an attempt to make it more fan friendly or not. If so, they failed.
Not unlike a lot of sports that are obscure to most casual watchers, maybe a more simplified scoring system will attract new fans, not this cluster
-mess-of a scoring system.
IMO
Not sure if these latest revisions were an attempt to make it more fan friendly or not. If so, they failed.
Not unlike a lot of sports that are obscure to most casual watchers, maybe a more simplified scoring system will attract new fans, not this cluster
-mess-of a scoring system.
IMO
cruiser_96
Posts: 7,536
Aug 8, 2012 10:27am
Well stated, THE4RINGZ.
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jmog
Posts: 6,567
Aug 8, 2012 1:09pm
Just because I honestly don't know (only becoming a fan of GR/FR recently, watched Folk for a long time), what changes were made recently? I have noticed this years olympics have sucked when the in the past it was pretty exciting.
cruiser_96
Posts: 7,536
Aug 8, 2012 2:13pm
Two big changegs that immediately come to my mind are #1) the push out rule and #2) length of match.
I also hate the ball grabs. RIDICULOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I also hate the ball grabs. RIDICULOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
1_beast
Posts: 5,642
Aug 8, 2012 2:49pm
painful...
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Aug 8, 2012 3:41pm
Not sure if you did this on purpose, but LOL regardless. Anyway, they used to flip a disc as you probably know. They got rid of the disc, because there were allegations of refs using weighted discs to fix matches. There is a lot of corruption in international wrestling.cruiser_96;1242643 wrote:Two big changegs that immediately come to my mind are #1) the push out rule and #2) length of match.
I also hate the ball grabs. RIDICULOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Just to piggy off cruiser, there used to be two 3:00 periods. Now there are three 2:00 periods. All you need to do is win 2 of the 3 periods. So essentially the match can end in 4:00, or you can outscore your opponent during an entire match, but still lose. Pretty much why you see no action these days. There is no difference between a 1 point or 5 point win for the period. Once a wrestler gets his 1 point lead he does all he can do to hold onto that lead in order to win the period. Winning by more than 1 does nothing for him the next period as the score is back to 0-0.jmog;1242568 wrote:Just because I honestly don't know (only becoming a fan of GR/FR recently, watched Folk for a long time), what changes were made recently? I have noticed this years olympics have sucked when the in the past it was pretty exciting.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Aug 8, 2012 3:47pm
I also find it stupid how they changed the tournament format. They now have a single elimination bracket. If you lose the only way you can get back in the consolation bracket (or as they call it the "repechage") is if your competitor reaches the final.
The previous format they had mini pools. Winners of the pools would go onto the bracket 8 man bracket.
The previous format they had mini pools. Winners of the pools would go onto the bracket 8 man bracket.
Fab1b
Posts: 12,949
Aug 8, 2012 4:03pm
Ranked all 32 sports for best and worst TV viewing during olympics. Wrestling is just wrestling not broken into styles but a good review:
13. Wrestling -- One of the best "once every four years" sports.
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/olympics-fourth-place-medal/olympic-sports-best-worst-watch-tv-fourth-place-204942097--oly.html
13. Wrestling -- One of the best "once every four years" sports.
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/olympics-fourth-place-medal/olympic-sports-best-worst-watch-tv-fourth-place-204942097--oly.html
cruiser_96
Posts: 7,536
Aug 8, 2012 10:49pm
I knew the "ball grab" comment would get a response. I tried coming up with something less obvious for comment, but alas, I went with it.
1_beast
Posts: 5,642
Aug 9, 2012 3:31am
you wouldcruiser_96;1242968 wrote:I knew the "ball grab" comment would get a response. I tried coming up with something less obvious for comment, but alas, I went with it.
said_aouita
Posts: 8,532
Aug 9, 2012 4:46am
I've heard the move referred to as "five on two" when you have ball grabbing in HS wrestling.cruiser_96;1242968 wrote:I knew the "ball grab" comment would get a response. I tried coming up with something less obvious for comment, but alas, I went with it.
cruiser_96
Posts: 7,536
Aug 9, 2012 1:08pm
My habaneros are straight kicking my butt!!!!!!! Good grief!1_beast;1243013 wrote:you would