
Wooball
Posts: 1,325
Jul 30, 2012 8:22am
Is this guy going to holdout and miss games this year, or will he be in camp before the Stillers 3rd preseason game? Would take the risk on him in your fantasy league and keep him over guys like Nicks, Maclin and even a potential breakout guy like Eric Decker?

Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Jul 30, 2012 8:31am
I don't follower the steelers enough to know the ins and outs of his contract demands and the steelers dealing with him, but I'll say its rare that a player holds out long enough to start deducting paychecks.
For fantasy, I'd take Nicks over him everytime, esp since he really fell off last 8 games of the season.
For fantasy, I'd take Nicks over him everytime, esp since he really fell off last 8 games of the season.

wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Jul 30, 2012 8:35am
Not big on Wallace...there other guy is better.

Raw Dawgin' it
Posts: 11,466
Jul 30, 2012 8:49am
Isn't Nicks hurt right now? If Nicks is healthy then I'd take Nicks over Wallace but Wallace over Decker and Maclin...Maclin sucks.

Wooball
Posts: 1,325
Jul 30, 2012 9:14am
Nicks is rehabbing from a broken foot, is on track to be participating fully in training camp by middle of August.Raw Dawgin' it;1236857 wrote:Isn't Nicks hurt right now? If Nicks is healthy then I'd take Nicks over Wallace but Wallace over Decker and Maclin...Maclin sucks.

Raw Dawgin' it
Posts: 11,466
Jul 30, 2012 9:24am
The I'd rank them, Nicks, Wallace, Decker, and Maclin. With Michael Vick at QB Maclin is too risky to start.Wooball;1236872 wrote:Nicks is rehabbing from a broken foot, is on track to be participating fully in training camp by middle of August.

Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Jul 30, 2012 9:25am
They just signed Antonio Brown to a 5 years deal. Word on the Pittsburgh thread is that he could be traded.
I haven't been keeping up lately. I'd like to know what Madden has to say on the issue. He's always good for a laugh when contract issues come up.
I haven't been keeping up lately. I'd like to know what Madden has to say on the issue. He's always good for a laugh when contract issues come up.
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sportchampps
Posts: 7,361
Jul 30, 2012 10:14am
I don't think they could get very much for him in a trade. If a team wanted him they would have made him an offer in the offseason as he was a restricted free agent. It would have cost a first round tender so the trade will be less then that for sure.I know a lot of people they he can only thrive in on the long ball and with rothlisberger. Could you image drew brees and him paired together. Also I saw a stat somewhere that at his age the only wrs who had better stats was Randy moss.

killer_ewok
Posts: 11,379
Jul 30, 2012 11:00am
They could probably get a 2nd round pick for him in a trade. Hell, they'll get a 3rd round compensatory pick if they lose him so it would have to be a 2nd but wouldn't be a 1st as was stated because a team would have signed him to an offer sheet when they had the chance to.
Colbert came out and said that Wallace is not available for trade after that started coming up in the media. However, if a team is contending and has a WR go down and the deal was right sometime this season.... I bet they'd trade him. If he sits out the whole season...he'll be a restricted free agent again next year. He could sit out the first 10 games and come back for the last 6 so he could become an unrestricted free agent next offseason. I'd proceed with caution regarding Wallace in a fantasy draft. This could drag out and there is no guarantee the Steelers even activate him for the last 6 if he sits out the first 10. I'd pick him as a value pick later in a draft if he's still there in the event things get resolved.
Also, I think Vick is gonna rebound in a big way this season. And Maclin was pretty good last season. Desean Jackson....not so much. Maclin would not be a bad pick at the appropriate time IMO.
Colbert came out and said that Wallace is not available for trade after that started coming up in the media. However, if a team is contending and has a WR go down and the deal was right sometime this season.... I bet they'd trade him. If he sits out the whole season...he'll be a restricted free agent again next year. He could sit out the first 10 games and come back for the last 6 so he could become an unrestricted free agent next offseason. I'd proceed with caution regarding Wallace in a fantasy draft. This could drag out and there is no guarantee the Steelers even activate him for the last 6 if he sits out the first 10. I'd pick him as a value pick later in a draft if he's still there in the event things get resolved.
Also, I think Vick is gonna rebound in a big way this season. And Maclin was pretty good last season. Desean Jackson....not so much. Maclin would not be a bad pick at the appropriate time IMO.
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thavoice
Posts: 14,376
Jul 30, 2012 12:24pm
Wallace can go fuck himself.

shook_17
Posts: 3,023
Jul 30, 2012 3:34pm
lol true this. fuck mike wallace.thavoice;1236954 wrote:Wallace can go **** himself.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Jul 31, 2012 8:13am
This.wes_mantooth;1236851 wrote:Not big on Wallace...there other guy is better.
Antonio Brown is a much more polished receiver. The only thing Wallace is proficient at is running 9's.

Rotinaj
Posts: 7,699
Jul 31, 2012 11:50am
I think Wallace is better than most here are giving him credit for but he's insane if he thinks he deserves the money he's asking for.

Heretic
Posts: 18,820
Jul 31, 2012 12:09pm
Yeah, when you're talking about a sport with a salary cap (so teams can't just pull the "FUCK IT ALL, WE'RE THE GODDAMN YANKEES!!!" card), if a guy wants to be paid like the best in the league...he probably should perform like he's among the best in the league with a bit more consistency than he has. He's had great plays and great games. He's also had a lot of games where his contributions are minimal. And, as has been repeated a lot, he doesn't have the overall versatility that Antonio Brown does, meaning he isn't even really considered the top guy on the team...let alone a top guy overall in the league.Rotinaj;1237735 wrote:I think Wallace is better than most here are giving him credit for but he's insane if he thinks he deserves the money he's asking for.
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thavoice
Posts: 14,376
Jul 31, 2012 12:18pm
Bingo.Heretic;1237744 wrote:Yeah, when you're talking about a sport with a salary cap (so teams can't just pull the "**** IT ALL, WE'RE THE GODDAMN YANKEES!!!" card), if a guy wants to be paid like the best in the league...he probably should perform like he's among the best in the league with a bit more consistency than he has. He's had great plays and great games. He's also had a lot of games where his contributions are minimal. And, as has been repeated a lot, he doesn't have the overall versatility that Antonio Brown does, meaning he isn't even really considered the top guy on the team...let alone a top guy overall in the league.
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KewAstees
Posts: 5
Aug 2, 2012 4:25pm
I hope they drop him and bring in Owens

gerb131
Posts: 9,932
Aug 2, 2012 10:11pm
They still miss the playoffs with or without him.

Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Aug 2, 2012 10:18pm
gerb131;1239407 wrote:They still miss the playoffs with or without him.
Wake up pls.

gerb131
Posts: 9,932
Aug 2, 2012 10:20pm
3rd best in North is not good enough for wildcard.Ironman92;1239418 wrote:Wake up pls.

killer_ewok
Posts: 11,379
Aug 2, 2012 10:24pm
Maybe it won't be but it certainly was last year. Even though Cincy is on the way "up".....I still think the division comes down to Baltimore and Pittsburgh.gerb131;1239422 wrote:3rd best in North is not good enough for wildcard.

Crimson streak
Posts: 9,002
Aug 3, 2012 12:48am
killer_ewok;1239428 wrote:Maybe it won't be but it certainly was last year. Even though Cincy is on the way "up".....I still think the division comes down to Baltimore and Pittsburgh.
I think the steelers have some issues but should still make the playoffs. But it wouldn't surprise me if they don't. No mendenhall, maybe no Wallace, aging defense, 2 rookie o lineman. Ben could be beat up, and is getting older.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Aug 3, 2012 5:23am
Cincy on the way "up" remains to be seen. Still have to beat a +.500 team..killer_ewok;1239428 wrote:Maybe it won't be but it certainly was last year. Even though Cincy is on the way "up".....I still think the division comes down to Baltimore and Pittsburgh.

jordo212000
Posts: 10,664
Aug 3, 2012 7:46am
BR1986FB;1239525 wrote:Cincy on the way "up" remains to be seen. Still have to beat a +.500 team..
Might not have to. Cleveland should get us two wins. Should split with Pittsburgh and Baltimore and then they just have to find 5-6 more wins in there
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Aug 3, 2012 8:13am
Not this year.jordo212000;1239528 wrote:Cleveland should get us two wins.

Rotinaj
Posts: 7,699
Aug 3, 2012 8:16am
Only way they beat us twice is if we GIVE them one like last year. They SHOULD split.BR1986FB;1239533 wrote:Not this year.