This should go to the Political Forum but what I would like is comments from those who don’t go to that forum but may have an opinion about weapons and or gun control….

The shooting last week and what seems to be a monthly event now will happen because crazy people, are just that crazy and mentally unbalance individual. Weapon and explosives are the instrument of their wrath but the cause of their illogic behavior and the prevention and awareness is what should be examined. Instead of addressing the real issue many Political hacks and Liberals will use those terrible acts of delusion for political agenda gains and never really address the problem.

I’m a CCW and I carry my weapon 40% of the time. Military trained and train using my weapon weekly to be as proficient as possible. But I’m the first to admit many of the horrendous, preplanned and calculated violence that happen would not have been prevented only by chance with an individual with a CCW could potentially prevent as much carnage once the act was started.

Then way carry a weapon or have a CCW?
One it’s my right. My personal protection, the protection of others if required, a deterrent to criminal action, potential support of law enforcement when needed and for the security of my home and country if needed.

Why not ban assault weapons? First let qualify something: Weapons come in Automatic (military and police weaponry) one pull of the trigger and 30 rolls are spent. Without a Class III documentation normal US citizen can but this weapon. This Full Automatic weapon is the “true” Assault weapon. The term “Assault Rifle” is used for agenda and media bias. American citizen can purchase semi-automatic weapons. For each roll fired the trigger must be pulled. So the term Assault Rifle should not apply but Semi-Automatic Rifle is a better term.

Why not ban Assault Rifle? They are already ban so why make an issue of something that is already ban other than to have a political agenda and refuse to address the real issue.
One it’s my right to bear arms and the weapon that I wish to own is my right.

Gun control has not proven to prevent criminals from using guns in crimes, home invasion, robberies and drug dealing or from carrying weapons (criminal don’t sign up for CCW) nor has the over extension of gun control in major city deterred the rate of death by shooting.

Political correctness is my rights not someone else agenda…

Would you feel safer in a community that permitted legal American Citizen and Registered non-felon citizens to carry CCW weapons and ownership of semi-automatic weapons?

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Sorry forgot to sdd the second part

Is the agenda to ban guns and more gun control the real issue and missing the mark or should the effort be more on the prevention, awareness and evulation of socially awkward individuals?

Belly35;1234717 wrote: Would you feel saver in a community that permitted legal American Citizen and Registered non-felon citizens to carry CCW weapons and ownership of semi-automatic weapons?

No, I would not. Just for the simple fact I know majority of the people who'd become new gun owners are nowhere close to being properly prepared. You being " Military trained and train using my weapon weekly to be as proficient as possible" I'd feel safer being around, knowing you were carrying a gun. I'd trust your reactions with a gun.
My former neighbor who worked at a desk but liked to occasionally wear a leather vest and ride his harley (while carrying his gun) I question.

I think we should ban all guns and go back to the days of the bow and arrow. Let's see a motherfucker shoot up a theater with a bow and arrow!

tl;dr

said_aouita;1234753 wrote:No, I would not. Just for the simple fact I know majority of the people who'd become new gun owners are nowhere close to being properly prepared. You being " Military trained and train using my weapon weekly to be as proficient as possible" I'd feel safer being around, knowing you were carrying a gun. I'd trust your reactions with a gun.
My former neighbor who worked at a desk but liked to occasionally wear a leather vest and ride his harley (while carrying his gun) I question.

The problem is, people think that because someone has a CCW and isn't police or military trained, they are just going to pull it out and start shooting at things. This isn't the old west. That doesn't happen. All the people I know who have a CCW take it very seriously and know the risks of using it.

You'd be surprised how many around you carry a gun and you don't even know it.

WebFire;1234772 wrote:The problem is, people think that because someone has a CCW and isn't police or military trained, they are just going to pull it out and start shooting at things. This isn't the old west. That doesn't happen. All the people I know who have a CCW take it very seriously and know the risks of using it.

You'd be surprised how many around you carry a gun and you don't even know it.

On that same note, you'd be surprised just how many people have guns and cannot use them safely or correctly.

tcarrier32;1234792 wrote:On that same note, you'd be surprised just how many people have guns and cannot use them safely or correctly.

Just like people with driver's licenses that are bad drivers.

WebFire;1234797 wrote:Just like people with driver's licenses that are bad drivers.

You can't legally drive a car unlicensed/registered.

I Wear Pants;1234808 wrote:You can't legally drive a car unlicensed/registered.

You cannot CCW without a license.

Nor does that point make a difference in anything.

WebFire;1234821 wrote:You cannot CCW without a license.

I wonder how many hours it takes in the classroom and behind the wheel to be allowed to drive, compared to the amount of total training for a CCW.

WebFire;1234821 wrote:You cannot CCW without a license.

But you can purchase and own guns without a registration/license. Not so with owning/driving a car.

I'm just saying, we regulate cars more than guns in that regard which is just sort of weird. (Not that it's wrong per se, just seems weird when put that way)

said_aouita;1234848 wrote:I wonder how many hours it takes in the classroom and behind the wheel to be allowed to drive, compared to the amount of total training for a CCW.

CCW is 12 hours.

I Wear Pants;1234850 wrote:But you can purchase and own guns without a registration/license. Not so with owning/driving a car.

I'm just saying, we regulate cars more than guns in that regard which is just sort of weird. (Not that it's wrong per se, just seems weird when put that way)

But that doesn't really matter. Do you think the maniac murderers are going to make sure they are licensed or their gun is registered?

Also, if a driver without a license hits and kills someone, is it the cars fault?

WebFire;1234862 wrote:But that doesn't really matter. Do you think the maniac murderers are going to make sure they are licensed or their gun is registered?

Also, if a driver without a license hits and kills someone, is it the cars fault?

Didn't the latest one have all completely legal or licensed gear? (Don't know what he had that would have required a license)

I Wear Pants;1234864 wrote:Didn't the latest one have all completely legal or licensed gear? (Don't know what he had that would have required a license)

I believe the firearm was purchased legally, yes. It's currently easier to purchase a gun legally than illegally. I'm kind of thinking that it should be. If the reverse is true, some will just start buying illegally.

I Wear Pants;1234850 wrote:But you can purchase and own guns without a registration/license. Not so with owning/driving a car.

I'm just saying, we regulate cars more than guns in that regard which is just sort of weird. (Not that it's wrong per se, just seems weird when put that way)

On its face, it does sound odd, but it makes sense if we take usage into account. We use cars far more often than we use guns ... hopefully, anyway.

I Wear Pants;1234864 wrote:Didn't the latest one have all completely legal or licensed gear? (Don't know what he had that would have required a license)

I think so. Though the magazines were not legal, I believe. But I thought we were talking about this subject as a whole. Not Colorado.

O-Trap;1234867 wrote:I believe the firearm was purchased legally, yes. It's currently easier to purchase a gun legally than illegally. I'm kind of thinking that it should be. If the reverse is true, some will just start buying illegally.

Which is fine. Legal purchasing of firearms makes them easier to track when crap like Aurora happens. If it was illegal, they could do a better job of tracking down where that gun had come from originally to start a paper trail.

CCW is fine. You should be required to take a safety course on the issue, etc. I don't think just any moron with a gun should be able to conceal it in public for 'potential use'.

CCW does require a course.

WebFire;1234861 wrote:CCW is 12 hours.

It is 12 hours between class work and range time with your weapon, then you have to take the certification to the Sheriff Department for a back ground check. I'm the first to admit this is weak and should have more range time and those will a CCW should be required to provide documention of additional range time every six months with a mimium of 2 hours per every six months..

Belly35;1235078 wrote:It is 12 hours between class work and range time with your weapon, then you have to take the certification to the Sheriff Department for a back ground check. I'm the first to admit this is weak and should have more range time and those will a CCW should be required to provide documention of additional range time every six months with a mimium of 2 hours per every six months..

It could be more. I would be ok with the additional range time. But that cost time and money for the government to track. Keep in mind that there is 0 training and no license required to carry a gun out in the open.