OneBuckeye
Posts: 5,888
Jul 12, 2012 10:52am
Joe Pa covered it up, doesn't look good for PSU.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/joe-paterno-concealed-sandusky-abuse-avoid-bad-publicity/story?id=16760493
Full report ^^
http://abcnews.go.com/US/joe-paterno-concealed-sandusky-abuse-avoid-bad-publicity/story?id=16760493
http://abcnews.go.com/Site/page/free-report-psu-16760826[LEFT]Former Penn State head football coach Joe Paterno and other top university officials acted with "total disregard" for the children sexually abused by former assistant coach Jerry Sandusky to avoid "bad publicity," the university's internal investigation concluded in a report today.[/LEFT]
[LEFT]The report was released at the conclusion of the investigation led by former FBI director Louis Freeh, who was hired to find out why officials who knew of child molestation accusations failed to stop Sandusky or report him to police. The college's board of trustees came under fire as well for oversight failures and a culture of discouraging questions and dissent.[/LEFT]
[LEFT]The report said that Paterno, along with officials Tim Curley, Gary Schultz, and former president Graham Spanier, "repeatedly concealed critical facts relating to Sandusky's child abuse from the authorities," and it blamed those four men for failing to stop Sandusky and protect other children from his harm.[/LEFT]
Full report ^^
TedSheckler
Posts: 3,974
Jul 12, 2012 10:54am
He's a legend. Leave him alone.
Tigerfan00
Posts: 3,427
Jul 12, 2012 11:02am
If this doesnt get the death penalty then it doesnt exist.
I also cant wait to see that statue of JoePoop get toppled either.
I also cant wait to see that statue of JoePoop get toppled either.
Heretic
Posts: 18,820
Jul 12, 2012 11:03am
A legend at covering up pedo-ing who happened to also be a really good coach?TedSheckler;1224136 wrote:He's a legend. Leave him alone.
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Tiernan
Posts: 13,021
Jul 12, 2012 11:05am
Franco Harris and Todd Blackledge will deny it.
TedSheckler
Posts: 3,974
Jul 12, 2012 11:08am
No need to trample on a man's grave.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Jul 12, 2012 11:17am
This is really distrubing.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Jul 12, 2012 11:19am
Strange...I said something about them getting the death penalty awhile back and was laughed at.Tigerfan00;1224142 wrote:If this doesnt get the death penalty then it doesnt exist.
I also cant wait to see that statue of JoePoop get toppled either.
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Tiernan
Posts: 13,021
Jul 12, 2012 11:21am
They are already DEAD as far as any top recruits even considering going to Pedo State U.BR1986FB;1224172 wrote:Strange...I said something about them getting the death penalty awhile back and was laughed at.
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queencitybuckeye
Posts: 7,117
Jul 12, 2012 11:23am
To what end? Sandusky will die in prison, those in power who knew likely will be going to prison, and Paterno is dead. Who is left to be punished by this that the legal system isn't taking care of?BR1986FB;1224172 wrote:Strange...I said something about them getting the death penalty awhile back and was laughed at.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Jul 12, 2012 11:24am
No doubt but I heard something on the radio where, even with this Sandusky scandal, they raised a ridiculous amount of booster money this past year.Tiernan;1224175 wrote:They are already DEAD as far as any top recruits even considering going to Pedo State U.
Fab1b
Posts: 12,949
Jul 12, 2012 11:29am
BR1986FB;1224182 wrote:No doubt but I heard something on the radio where, even with this Sandusky scandal, they raised a ridiculous amount of booster money this past year.
Read that too like 200 mil +
se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Jul 12, 2012 11:29am
I agree with this. What happened was absolutely disgusting, however, I don't believe it's the NCAA's place to hand out a penalty here since it isn't competition related. Also, I hate penalizing the kids for something that was done by a few people.queencitybuckeye;1224181 wrote:To what end? Sandusky will die in prison, those in power who knew likely will be going to prison, and Paterno is dead. Who is left to be punished by this that the legal system isn't taking care of?
OneBuckeye
Posts: 5,888
Jul 12, 2012 11:31am
If I were a PSU alum that is what I would be saying. Those 5-6 people are responsible not the university. But what is the definition of LOIC, and why have it if you just fire the persons involved.queencitybuckeye;1224181 wrote:To what end? Sandusky will die in prison, those in power who knew likely will be going to prison, and Paterno is dead. Who is left to be punished by this that the legal system isn't taking care of?
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queencitybuckeye
Posts: 7,117
Jul 12, 2012 11:41am
I have no idea, nor care very much, about the definition of an NCAA term. This is way bigger than an athletic issue, this is real life, and it's being played out in real life venues (i.e. courts of law). I would repeat my question, what guilty parties appear to be escaping justice for what they've done or haven't done? I don't see anyone involved in this that will just be fired.OneBuckeye;1224190 wrote:If I were a PSU alum that is what I would be saying. Those 5-6 people are responsible not the university. But what is the definition of LOIC, and why have it if you just fire the persons involved.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Jul 12, 2012 11:41am
Not sure the NCAA will get involved in this regarding a death penalty/suspensions/bans/whatever. I wouldnt be opposed if they did, but I dont see it happening since this is not technically sports related. Its more personal lives of sport coaches/
OneBuckeye
Posts: 5,888
Jul 12, 2012 11:48am
Correct. Then you have to consider the Clery Act and the penalties PSU will face there. There is no escaping that it seems.queencitybuckeye;1224206 wrote:I have no idea, nor care very much, about the definition of an NCAA term. This is way bigger than an athletic issue, this is real life, and it's being played out in real life venues (i.e. courts of law). I would repeat my question, what guilty parties appear to be escaping justice for what they've done or haven't done? I don't see anyone involved in this that will just be fired.
TedSheckler
Posts: 3,974
Jul 12, 2012 11:50am
This is a lack of institution control that lasted at least 14 years and covering this up was most definitely a competitive advantage. And they've been selling Paterno's integrity to recruits for how many years now?Laley23;1224207 wrote:Its more personal lives of sport coaches/
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queencitybuckeye
Posts: 7,117
Jul 12, 2012 11:53am
That's a valid point.TedSheckler;1224219 wrote:And they've been selling Paterno's integrity to recruits for how many years now?
OneBuckeye
Posts: 5,888
Jul 12, 2012 11:54am
The guilty parties are the BOT that didn't do "due diligence" or understand that Joe Pa was running the show not the President and AD, and what harm that might be causing. The dorm/frat fight is example of such a case. Why have rules for institutions and corporations if you can just fire someone to get out of trouble?queencitybuckeye;1224206 wrote:I have no idea, nor care very much, about the definition of an NCAA term. This is way bigger than an athletic issue, this is real life, and it's being played out in real life venues (i.e. courts of law). I would repeat my question, what guilty parties appear to be escaping justice for what they've done or haven't done? I don't see anyone involved in this that will just be fired.
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thavoice
Posts: 14,376
Jul 12, 2012 11:55am
I dont know what the punishment should be, but I am not sure it should be the death penalty.
I think that should be reserved for severe recruiting violations, paying/bribing recruits and things along those lines.
Think that theyneed to come down hard on PSU, but not the football program.
I think that should be reserved for severe recruiting violations, paying/bribing recruits and things along those lines.
Think that theyneed to come down hard on PSU, but not the football program.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Jul 12, 2012 11:55am
Exactly. The legal system isn't done with PSU yet, I see no reason for the NCAA to get involved.OneBuckeye;1224215 wrote:Correct. Then you have to consider the Clery Act and the penalties PSU will face there. There is no escaping that it seems.
TedSheckler
Posts: 3,974
Jul 12, 2012 11:58am
Wow. Yea, recruiting violations are so much worse than raping kids in athletic complexes.thavoice;1224224 wrote:I dont know what the punishment should be, but I am not sure it should be the death penalty.
I think that should be reserved for severe recruiting violations, paying/bribing recruits and things along those lines.
Think that theyneed to come down hard on PSU, but not the football program.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Jul 12, 2012 12:01pm
Thats a very good point.TedSheckler;1224219 wrote:This is a lack of institution control that lasted at least 14 years and covering this up was most definitely a competitive advantage. And they've been selling Paterno's integrity to recruits for how many years now?
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queencitybuckeye
Posts: 7,117
Jul 12, 2012 12:02pm
Not a matter of worse, its a matter of who the correct parties are. Just as (most) recruiting violations aren't any business of the justice system, to me this is outside the scope of the NCAA. Based on history, it's well beyond their capabilities.TedSheckler;1224229 wrote:Wow. Yea, recruiting violations are so much worse than raping kids in athletic complexes.