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Watch the name calling... your post was perfectly fine as a way to tell Durkie that it's more about the name they built in the past than the present with most, but then you added "you fucking idiot", which isn't cool.

DeyDurkie5;1193924 wrote:In college football, notre dame is average at best. The only reason they are relevant is because of their TV deal. They have an average team, they don't win big games, and they don't win bowl games. The only BCS game they went too, they got destroyed by OSU. They are, in the realm of college football, not relevant.

They've actually been to three BCS games. Why can't you guys get your facts right, ever?

They aren't, "in the realm of college football," irrelevant. In fact the larger the scope under which you judge relevancy, the more relevant they become.

I'm talking about PROGRAMS. You're talking about the recent product on the field. The sad irony of this situation is that no Notre Dame fan on here has ever said that they were still a powerhouse team. No Notre Dame fan has said that they were an elite team.

We're talking about programs, you fucking idiot.