lol yeah ok - So was god born then? How did he come to life/existence/etc etc etc. Did god just appear and go "i feel like creating some shit today"Con_Alma;1150560 wrote:My gosh I hope I wasn't having an argument at all.
I truly don't know what you "mean" by your question other than what it said. Sorry.
I guess there isn't anything. Still, it's fun to watch you foam at the mouth every time the subject comes up.sleeper;1150400 wrote:What is there to debate? There's fact vs. an illogical regressive belief system backed by faith and faith alone.
/RawDawg'dRaw Dawgin' it;1150556 wrote:Never mind - you don't take questions for what they mean rather you take every word at it's literal meaning to make your argument. It's impossible to have a discussion with you....you and sleeper were made for each other.
+1 sleeper must have had a miserable childhood.fish82;1150574 wrote:I guess there isn't anything. Still, it's fun to watch you foam at the mouth every time the subject comes up.
I do have rabies for babies. LOLfish82;1150574 wrote:I guess there isn't anything. Still, it's fun to watch you foam at the mouth every time the subject comes up.
That is the part I don't understand. I'm told God is good, all-loving, etc. I'm told that God can't be humanized and I hear a lot of poor excuses as to why he exhibits some of the worst human qualities there are.sleeper;1150565 wrote:And out of the 1000's of religions out there, I sure hope he chose right. If there is a God, he's surely a jealous one considering half the 10 commandments have to deal with not worshiping anyone else.
DeyDurkie5;1149856 wrote:Person 1: what's up ngga?
God: Not much homie
Person 1: So, I just died and I never believed in your bullshit. I'm sorry for that
God: It's okay man, I like to fuck with people. Technically you guys are right though, as I don't "exist" in the real world, only when you die.
Person 1: OH SNAP
God: but anyways, here's some Kush and a bitch. enjoy my heaven ngga.
Person 1: thanks god!..oh yeah, god..is skyhook and cats gone wild up here?
God: No, son. Those two were huge ****. We sent them to hell to get butt raped.
Person 1: i love you, god
Indeed. God isn't so perfect after all. Like I've said, an entire belief system can be ravaged by simple logic games. That should be enough for a rational person to dismiss all religions as hogwash.enigmaax;1150654 wrote:Jealousy, insecurity, possessiveness, vengefulness, psychosis, murderous. Those are a lot of terrible qualities.
My answer is the same to this question as is to the question who created GOD?Raw Dawgin' it;1150566 wrote:lol yeah ok - So was god born then? How did he come to life/existence/etc etc etc. Did god just appear and go "i feel like creating some **** today"
Did you really not understand what i meant?
Different groups of Christians believe differently about the the Holy Sacrament of Communion. Some believe it is the body and blood of Christ while others believe in transfiguration.sleeper;1150561 wrote:Free bread and wine at mass.
Oh excuse me, the body and blood of Christ. Get real.
I don't think we are pawns... either way you have eternal life. One way you are in the presence of God. The other you are not.enigmaax;1150563 wrote:Doesn't that pretty much make us pawns in some kind of game? Choose right and I'll take care of you forever. Choose wrong and **** you and your soul.
I see the differences as meaningless. The fact that Christianity and Catholicism are different just shows theirs even greater fragmentation in the belief systems available. I hope you picked the correct one, especially since none of them have any greater evidence than any other, so the decision was probably very difficult.Con_Alma;1150766 wrote:Different groups of Christians believe differently about the the Holy Sacrament of Communion. Some believe it is the body and blood of Christ while others believe in transfiguration.
P.S. I don't attend 'Mass'. That's a Catholic thing.
Can you, in the future, preference such claims with "I think" or "I believe". There is no evidence for eternal life. This is a claim. In order to make a claim, you must have evidence.Con_Alma;1150769 wrote:I don't think we are pawns... either way you have eternal life. One way you are in the presence of God. The other you are not.
sleeper;1150779 wrote:Can you, in the future, preference such claims with "I think" or "I believe". There is no evidence for eternal life. This is a claim. In order to make a claim, you must have evidence.
You believe in something that has no origin but believe that to be the creator of the world. It makes no sense. "I don't know where this god came from, but what the hell, i'm going to devote my life to him anyways based on stories i heard from strangers"Con_Alma;1150763 wrote:My answer is the same to this question as is to the question who created GOD?
How do you know he was born? I don't.
If there is some other meaning to your question other than the obvious ones regarding who created God or who who was He born from, i really don't understand your question.
You do realize that by claiming a statement as fact, without providing said evidence, that you are committing fraud in the court of logic and reason?Con_Alma;1150780 wrote:I respectfully decline. I don't recognize your requirement of must having evidence any more than you do of my statement of eternal life.
Of you you see it as meaningless. You see all of Christianity as meaningless.sleeper;1150776 wrote:I see the differences as meaningless. The fact that Christianity and Catholicism are different just shows theirs even greater fragmentation in the belief systems available. I hope you picked the correct one, especially since none of them have any greater evidence than any other, so the decision was probably very difficult.
So it was based on a self-fulfilling prophecy of Hogwash. Interesting that you use objects of the religion to justify the religion. I find your comments disingenuous and notable that you are hiding the true basis behind why you chose your particular brand of religion(most likely either childhood indoctrination or a mid-life crises).Con_Alma;1150790 wrote:Of you you see it as meaningless. You see all of Christianity as meaningless.
Why would you have any hope regarding the outcome of my decision at all? That seems kind of peculiar but thanks for the sentiment, I guess.
The decision was not difficult for me at all. It was based on the Grace of God through the presence of the Holy Spirit, prayer and reading of the Holy Scriptures.
The court of logic and reason isn't what faith based religion is determined. Such a court has no bearing on my claims. It is not the approval of such a "Court" that I seek. Certainly you knew that already.sleeper;1150789 wrote:You do realize that by claiming a statement as fact, without providing said evidence, that you are committing fraud in the court of logic and reason?
Just so we are on the same page.
So you admit your beliefs are purely based on nothing but faith?Con_Alma;1150793 wrote:The court of logic and reason isn't what faith based religion is determined. Such a court has no bearing on my claims. It is not the approval of such a "Court" that I seek. Certainly you knew that already.
I don't justify the religion. I have no need to. It's not others that I seek affirmation from. I don't accept this religion so that others might see me in a different light.sleeper;1150792 wrote:So it was based on a self-fulfilling prophecy of Hogwash. Interesting that you use objects of the religion to justify the religion. I find your comments disingenuous and notable that you are hiding the true basis behind why you chose your particular brand of religion(most likely either childhood indoctrination or a mid-life crises).
Wow. Have I ever given you reason to believe it's based on anything other than faith? Yes, by faith alone.sleeper;1150794 wrote:So you admit your beliefs are purely based on nothing but faith?
Do you see the flaw in this type of thinking, or do you need me to show you?
So when you make a big decision like modifying the very core of your existence, you don't need to justify that said decision is correct and accurate?Con_Alma;1150796 wrote:I don't justify the religion. I have no need to. It's not others that I seek affirmation from. I don't accept this religion so that others might see me in a different light.
Faith is not greater than logic or reason. I'm thankful that the great scientists and doctors did not rely on faith to create the next cancer drug or medical device. You should be too, if you've ever had a health issue.Con_Alma;1150798 wrote:Wow. Have I ever given you reason to believe it's based on anything other than faith? Yes, by faith alone.
It's not a thought process. It's not reason or logic. It's greater than those two combined.
