fiction
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Dec 14, 2009 4:16pm
SQ_Crazies
Posts: 7,977
Dec 14, 2009 4:21pm
The link you posted says it isn't confirmed that they're shipping Lee--just that he's been discussed in trades. A little misleading with the thread title.
If it his true however, what the hell are they thinking?
If it his true however, what the hell are they thinking?
j_crazy
Posts: 8,372
Dec 14, 2009 4:21pm
What The F are the Phillies thinking?
j_crazy
Posts: 8,372
Dec 14, 2009 4:22pm
ESPN is reporting that Lee is involved by the way.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4742072
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4742072
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ZombieKiller
Posts: 817
Dec 14, 2009 4:23pm
I think it would be a good trade for the Phillies. They shouldv'e traded Hamels instead of Lee though.
heel023
Posts: 241
Dec 14, 2009 4:24pm
Everything I've read is this trade is a go. And Hallayday will sign an extension with the Phillies.
Not sure I would give Cliff Lee up in the process. He was the best pitcher they had last year.
Not sure I would give Cliff Lee up in the process. He was the best pitcher they had last year.
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Nate
Posts: 3,949
Dec 14, 2009 4:32pm
If they don't lose Lee or Hamels the Phillies will be favorites in the NL again.
chicago510
Posts: 5,728
Dec 14, 2009 4:39pm
How is Halladay and Hamels that much better than Lee and Hamels?
Unless they knew Lee wouldn't resign in Philly.
Lee is 31 and Halladay is 32 so that doesn't make a big difference...
Unless they knew Lee wouldn't resign in Philly.
Lee is 31 and Halladay is 32 so that doesn't make a big difference...
SQ_Crazies
Posts: 7,977
Dec 14, 2009 4:40pm
You may have a point--but why wouldn't Lee sign back in Philly? Anyone have a hunch? I would think he would and I'd take him over Halladay any day of the week. Not saying Halladay isn't good.
chicago510
Posts: 5,728
Dec 14, 2009 4:40pm
What are you talking about? If this trade goes through, Lee is heading to Seattle.Keebler wrote: If they don't lose Lee or Hamels the Phillies will be favorites in the NL again.
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Nate
Posts: 3,949
Dec 14, 2009 4:42pm
Most likely, yes he is. I'm just saying if by chance Lee stays they are going to be huge favorites. Nothing is a done deal yet.chicago510 wrote:What are you talking about? If this trade goes through, Lee is heading to Seattle.Keebler wrote: If they don't lose Lee or Hamels the Phillies will be favorites in the NL again.
hasbeen
Posts: 6,504
Dec 14, 2009 4:56pm
As a Mariners fan, I'm lovin' it. Hell, Lee has killed the M's the past few years. I was at the game in Cleveland a couple years ago and just watched as Lee embarrassed the M's.
Wooball
Posts: 1,325
Dec 14, 2009 5:07pm
Maybe Lee has a preference for the American League (doesn't like to hit) and would want to resign with an AL ball club after this year?
SQ_Crazies
Posts: 7,977
Dec 14, 2009 5:09pm
Could be.Wooball wrote: Maybe Lee has a preference for the American League (doesn't like to hit) and would want to resign with an AL ball club after this year?
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King Curtis
Posts: 391
Dec 14, 2009 5:16pm
Toronto got nothing out of the deal, expect Halladay's money off the books.
wes_mantooth
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Dec 14, 2009 5:29pm
Not that this is much of a surprise, but WKNR reported before the Lee trade that Lee told the Indians that he would pretty much sign with the highest bidder. Maybe the Phils thought that they couldn't compete with the offers he would demand.SQ_Crazies wrote: You may have a point--but why wouldn't Lee sign back in Philly? Anyone have a hunch? I would think he would and I'd take him over Halladay any day of the week. Not saying Halladay isn't good.
SQ_Crazies
Posts: 7,977
Dec 14, 2009 5:32pm
Well, good for him--he deserves to get paid.
wes_mantooth
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Dec 14, 2009 5:36pm
I don't hold anything against any of these players for "getting paid". My issue is when they say it isn't about the money....it is just a laughable statement.SQ_Crazies wrote: Well, good for him--he deserves to get paid.
SQ_Crazies
Posts: 7,977
Dec 14, 2009 5:39pm
Yeah, not sure why anyone would say that. If I were a pro I would say it's very much about the money--they say it because fans freak out. What some fans don't realize is it isn't JUST a game. It's their profession--you mean to tell me your job isn't all about the money? lol
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Dec 14, 2009 5:44pm
Lee wants market value, so he will be tougher to re-sign and will be more expensive. Halladay will sign for less than market. They are getting a pitcher (who imo is slightly less dominant than Lee) but for a much better deal.
darbypitcher22
Posts: 8,000
Dec 14, 2009 5:58pm
I'm not sure this deal works out well for either club. Lee was amazing for Philly. I'd hold on to him even if it meant getting Halladay. Lee had a better 2nd half than halladay did this past year
jpake1
Posts: 2,389
Dec 14, 2009 6:16pm
What did Toronto get? A box of condoms, Chipotle gift card, and a decent player or two?
HitsRus
Posts: 9,206
Dec 14, 2009 6:38pm
I'don't know what Toronto got, but it better have not been any of Phillies top prospects....or I';m really gonna be pissed at Dolan/Shapiro.
wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Dec 14, 2009 6:39pm
Even less......taco bell gift card, used condoms and a new ballboy.jpake1 wrote: What did Toronto get? A box of condoms, Chipotle gift card, and a decent player or two?
KnightXC1
Posts: 1,031
Dec 14, 2009 7:06pm
Halladay was hurt during the second half but was on pace in the first half to be the potential AL Cy Young winner before he went down. Personally, if I were the Phillies I would keep Lee and dump Hamels but Lee does want more money than Halladay does. Halladay and Hamels will be tough but Halladay and Lee would have made them instant favorites to win the NL.