Con_Alma;1057410 wrote:It is not for me to prove or disprove my faith in a creator. It is not me that acts first, it is God when it comes to someone elses faith.

Sleeper has been made aware of the Gospel. It is his to do as he chooses.

Raw Dawgin' it;1057400 wrote:lol you are such a politician.

sleeper;1057420 wrote:Again, the wall of "I can believe whatever I want" has been hit. Embarrassing.

sleeper;1057423 wrote:Ok. I suppose claims do not have to be proven. That's simply not how the world works, only in religion can you make a claim and base its validity on whether someone can disprove it or not.

LJ;1057399 wrote::rolleyes:

How about you provide a link to these supposed "studeis" you cite? Or are you full of ****?

Raw Dawgin' it;1057428 wrote:this coming from the guy always asking for links and quotes to back up arguments.

It's not my job to google these studies you reference, put a link, other wise you're talking out of your ass and still just giving your opinion.

Raw Dawgin' it;1057428 wrote:this coming from the guy always asking for links and quotes to back up arguments.

It's not my job to google these studies you reference, put a link, other wise you're talking out of your ass and still just giving your opinion.

Con_Alma;1057426 wrote:Whatever I want??


No. That's not my position at all.


Are you suggesting that I can't believe "whatever I want" though?

sleeper;1057432 wrote:Apparently, I am the only person on these forums who has to provide links to everything that I say. It's embarrassing that the majority on this forum need links to explain common sense and logic.

sleeper;1057429 wrote:http://www.pitzer.edu/academics/faculty/zuckerman/Zuckerman_on_Atheism.pdf

Here you go LJ. As requested.

[LEFT]This essay has presented what social scientists currently know about atheists and secular[/LEFT][LEFT]people in relation to personal and societal well-being. The numerous studies cited aboveprovide information about who tends to be irreligious as well as what atheists and secular[/LEFT]people tend to believe and do.

LJ;1057439 wrote:Thanks for a link that has nothing to do with what you said

Raw Dawgin' it;1057438 wrote:shut up idiot, it's because you constantly ask for them and then when someone doesn't give you one you say some bull**** about logic and reasoning...like you're doing now.

Links or what you're saying is just smoke screens to back your opinion

sleeper;1057437 wrote:No, I think you should be able to believe whatever it is you want. Whether its illogical is all I'm trying to argue. Like I've posted on this thread alone about 8 times, I find it hilarious that whenever presented with an irrefutable logical statement believers are quick to point out their right to believe what they want to believe. It's embarrassing.

sleeper;1057441 wrote:Really? You read the entire study in 3 minutes? LOL

I can only lead you to a water fountain, I cannot make you drink.

Raw Dawgin' it;1057438 wrote:shut up idiot, it's because you constantly ask for them and then when someone doesn't give you one you say some bull**** about logic and reasoning...like you're doing now.

Links or what you're saying is just smoke screens to back your opinion

sleeper;1057443 wrote:This is trolling/flaming. A greater man would be banned to the basement for an indefinite amount of time for this comment.

LJ;1057447 wrote:I read enough to know it is a study about proclaimed atheists and agnostics. It has nothing to do with people who claim to be believers only doing so to be accepted.

sleeper;1057449 wrote:Also, since we asking for links, can I get link which proves the existence of god?

sleeper;1057449 wrote:Also, since we asking for links, can I get link which proves the existence of god?

sleeper;1057455 wrote:SMH. Clearly, you are unable to use logic and reason, using facts, to infer the correct claim. If you truly believe that people do not mask there religious beliefs to be accepted by society at large, than I cannot help you.

sleeper;1057455 wrote:.... If you truly believe that people do not mask there religious beliefs to be accepted by society at large, than I cannot help you.

DeyDurkie5;1057453 wrote:I hate when people use creator...such a creepy word

Con_Alma;1057446 wrote:I certainly hope you don't think I have pointed to any such right, nor have I referred to one. That's why it was curious to ne when you quoted me and proceeded to comment about being able to believe whatever.

Even if such a belief is illogical, what it is the end game in arguing such? Is it to change the view of such a believer to a logic based opinion?