gorocks99
Posts: 10,760
Jan 10, 2012 10:41am
http://aol.sportingnews.com/ncaa-football/feed/2011-10/lsualabama/story/even-with-playoff-coming-sec-still-big-winner-lsu-alabama-national-title-game?eadid=EL/SICOM&sct=hp_t2_a11
[/LEFT][LEFT]NEW ORLEANS—Ugly doesn’t begin to describe it. But it most certainly defined it—in such a profound way that even the men who run this crazy, controversial contraption we call the Bowl Championship Series are giving in.
Years from now, this BCS National Championship Game won’t be remembered so much for Alabama’s utter domination of LSU as it will the beginning of radical change in college football. A national playoff is coming, everyone.
It’s only a matter of what it looks like.
“It gets done,” a high-ranking BCS official told Sporting News Monday evening.
Here’s how: over the next six months, the leaders of the sport will meet at least four times to iron out a plan that protects the importance of the regular season—the one aspect BCS leaders believe separates the game from every other—while embracing a new frontier for the poll-driven sport.
It begins Tuesday here in New Orleans with a meeting of conference commissioners, and includes meetings in Dallas in February and Miami in April. Another meeting in June is also likely, especially considering the magnitude of the potential change.
When asked what the playoff would look like, a high-ranking BCS source said there are “at least 60” different options on the table, and that includes everything from a four-team playoff to one game after all the bowls.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Jan 10, 2012 11:01am
Interested to see waht the ratings look like. Those who say "they won't look at one year's ratings and make a change"--while that's most likely true by itself, it will certainly be in play when they're talking about changing to a playoff. I know it's just one year of poor ratings (if the ratings actually are bad), but they can't afford multiple years of poor ratings, college football is WAY too popular right now.
ernest_t_bass
Posts: 24,984
Jan 10, 2012 11:07am
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Jan 10, 2012 11:12am
It'll be a +1 in 2014, but IMO we won't have a full scale playoff for a while--a long while
GOONx19
Posts: 7,147
Jan 10, 2012 11:20am
http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2012/01/alabama-lsu_produces_lowest_tv.htmlSportsAndLady;1046845 wrote:Interested to see waht the ratings look like. Those who say "they won't look at one year's ratings and make a change"--while that's most likely true by itself, it will certainly be in play when they're talking about changing to a playoff. I know it's just one year of poor ratings (if the ratings actually are bad), but they can't afford multiple years of poor ratings, college football is WAY too popular right now.
13.8... Lowest in the BCS era.
ernest_t_bass
Posts: 24,984
Jan 10, 2012 11:23am
I don't know why they don't just make the change for next year. Why wait until 2014?vball10set;1046859 wrote:It'll be a +1 in 2014, but IMO we won't have a full scale playoff for a while--a long while
ytownfootball
Posts: 6,978
Jan 10, 2012 11:58am
It's a contract, can't change anything 'till it's up.ernest_t_bass;1046871 wrote:I don't know why they don't just make the change for next year. Why wait until 2014?
And yeah it will only be a +1, it won't satisfy the malcontents. The discontent from the 5/6 spot won't be any different from the 3/4 spots currently.
gorocks99
Posts: 10,760
Jan 10, 2012 12:01pm
WE DID IT GUISEGOONx19;1046867 wrote:http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2012/01/alabama-lsu_produces_lowest_tv.html
13.8... Lowest in the BCS era.
Fly4Fun
Posts: 7,730
Jan 10, 2012 12:02pm
Wrong... the parties can agree that it's in the best interest of all to change it immediately. It's unlikely but possible.ytownfootball;1046905 wrote:It's a contract, can't change anything 'till it's up.
And yeah it will only be a +1, it won't satisfy the malcontents. The discontent from the 5/6 spot won't be any different from the 3/4 spots currently.
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Jan 10, 2012 12:02pm
yea, who said us "whiny bitches" couldnt make a difference?gorocks99;1046907 wrote:WE DID IT GUISE
ytownfootball
Posts: 6,978
Jan 10, 2012 12:05pm
EXTREMELY unlikely...smhFly4Fun;1046908 wrote:Wrong... the parties can agree that it's in the best interest of all to change it immediately. It's unlikely but possible.
ts1227
Posts: 12,319
Jan 10, 2012 12:09pm
Fly4Fun;1046908 wrote:Wrong... the parties can agree that it's in the best interest of all to change it immediately. It's unlikely but possible.
Regarding a plus one, Jim Delany will block it from happening mid contract, but come 2014 the other 5 conferences will tell him to fuck off. They do have the votes to remove auto bids immediately, I believe. I saw something yesterday saying the B1G was on board to some extent, as were most others.
se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Jan 10, 2012 12:11pm
I don't know that it's that unlikely. If the BCS sees that ratings are low, they have a reason to want the change as soon as possible. I can't see the schools holding it up either. This wasn't just a low rating in the NCG, this was a very low rating for the entire BCS system. They have a reason to want change. People are more likely to watch 2 teams that they normally wouldn't watch, if the outcome of the game can have implications on their own team. Right now, there's no reason for the non-diehard CFB fans to watch a game like WVU/Clemson.Fly4Fun;1046908 wrote:Wrong... the parties can agree that it's in the best interest of all to change it immediately. It's unlikely but possible.
ytownfootball
Posts: 6,978
Jan 10, 2012 12:13pm
Jim Delany is and has been the lynchpin in this whole mess. His reluctance to make any changes has caused most of the conference re-alignment imo. That's the saddest part of it all imo.
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Hulk Smash
Posts: 306
Jan 10, 2012 12:13pm
Playoff?
I've been hearing about the coming playoff all my life. I'll believe a playoff is happening when I am actually watching it.
I've been hearing about the coming playoff all my life. I'll believe a playoff is happening when I am actually watching it.
ytownfootball
Posts: 6,978
Jan 10, 2012 12:16pm
But if they dip below 50% of DI participants on board then they run the risk of their entire system being thrown out. They'll run the risk of low ratings (which they don't benefit from) vs losing the majority of the money they receive for a year.se-alum;1046924 wrote:I don't know that it's that unlikely. If the BCS sees that ratings are low, they have a reason to want the change as soon as possible. I can't see the schools holding it up either. This wasn't just a low rating in the NCG, this was a very low rating for the entire BCS system. They have a reason to want change. People are more likely to watch 2 teams that they normally wouldn't watch, if the outcome of the game can have implications on their own team. Right now, there's no reason for the non-diehard CFB fans to watch a game like WVU/Clemson.
gorocks99
Posts: 10,760
Jan 10, 2012 12:17pm
Ratings for BCS games on ESPN:
NCG: 13.8 (16.1 last year)
Rose Bowl: 11.8 (13.1 last year)
Fiesta Bowl: 9.0 (6.7 last year)
Sugar Bowl: 7.0 (9.5 last year)
Orange Bowl: 5.3 (7.1 last year)
http://www.opposingviews.com/i/sports/ncaa-football/acc/less-people-are-watching-2012-bcs-bowl-games-say-tv-ratings
Congratulations ESPN.
NCG: 13.8 (16.1 last year)
Rose Bowl: 11.8 (13.1 last year)
Fiesta Bowl: 9.0 (6.7 last year)
Sugar Bowl: 7.0 (9.5 last year)
Orange Bowl: 5.3 (7.1 last year)
http://www.opposingviews.com/i/sports/ncaa-football/acc/less-people-are-watching-2012-bcs-bowl-games-say-tv-ratings
Congratulations ESPN.
ts1227
Posts: 12,319
Jan 10, 2012 12:18pm
ytownfootball;1046925 wrote:Jim Delany is and has been the lynchpin in this whole mess. His reluctance to make any changes has caused most of the conference re-alignment imo. That's the saddest part of it all imo.
Larry Scott was the worst thing to happen to Jim Delany. He no longer has an ally regarding refusing to change in the Pac 12 and now just looks like a stubborn dumbass.
se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Jan 10, 2012 12:38pm
It makes sense for all involved to go to a playoff system though or even a +1. Higher ratings = more money for all involved. If it continues like it is now, the bids for the next BCS contract will be significantly lower, meaning less money for the schools, and less advertising revenue for ESPN. Ratings now are going to drive the next BCS contract. So, for the schools, there may be a little less money in next few years if ESPN isn't willing to renegotiate their contract, but in the long run, it will mean more money for the schools.ytownfootball;1046929 wrote:But if they dip below 50% of DI participants on board then they run the risk of their entire system being thrown out. They'll run the risk of low ratings (which they don't benefit from) vs losing the majority of the money they receive for a year.
bases_loaded
Posts: 6,912
Jan 10, 2012 12:56pm
Is ESPN basic cable now? The fact these games weren't on ABC or FOX alone would be a reason for smaller numbers. Oh and it was a game between two teams that already played from the same fuggin conference
gorocks99
Posts: 10,760
Jan 10, 2012 12:57pm
Last year the BCS games were on ESPN
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JU-ICE
Posts: 259
Jan 10, 2012 1:29pm
Isn't a "Plus One" basically the same as a four team playoff? If they are going to have a plus one, they would have to come out when the bowl match-up are announced and say the winner of Game A will play the winner of Game B, correct?
bases_loaded
Posts: 6,912
Jan 10, 2012 1:32pm
The real problem is the long layoff.
You can't get good football with 40 days off
You can't get good football with 40 days off
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Al Bundy
Posts: 4,180
Jan 10, 2012 2:03pm
It could be done that way, or you could take the 2 highest ranked teams after the bowls have been completed in the present format.JU-ICE;1047004 wrote:Isn't a "Plus One" basically the same as a four team playoff? If they are going to have a plus one, they would have to come out when the bowl match-up are announced and say the winner of Game A will play the winner of Game B, correct?
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Al Bundy
Posts: 4,180
Jan 10, 2012 2:06pm
The layoffs keep getting longer too. When they first started the BCS the championship game was usually a couple of days after New Year's. It has pushed back a full week. I imagine ratings for many of the bowls were better when they were played on the holiday as opposed to having a meaningless game in the middle of the week.bases_loaded;1047008 wrote:The real problem is the long layoff.
You can't get good football with 40 days off