2012 Cleveland Browns thread: AKA Pat Shurmur Memorial thread

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Feb 27, 2012 9:15 PM
I don't care what fans in Cleveland want. I want a halfway decent backup and thats what McCoy is. Keep him, he knows the system, knows the guys, knows the coaches etc... McCoy crybabies can cry for McCoy after RG3's first INT all they want, if we take RG3, McCoy isn't getting in.
Feb 27, 2012 9:15pm
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Feb 27, 2012 11:43 PM
This will probably come off as bias but anyone who has actually watched him play compared to Tannehill and Osweiler will probably agree.

I think after Luck and RGIII the next best quarterback is arguably Nick Foles. Threw for 4300 yards completing 69% of his passes (and he threw a LOT, we were terrible and couldn't run at all). I really think he could drop to the beginning of the 2nd round. I really wouldn't mind using picks 4/22 (or trading down for more picks) to improve the team and then take Foles.
Feb 27, 2012 11:43pm
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Feb 27, 2012 11:51 PM
Any speculation right now is just retarded. Teams don't know what there giving up based on him running a 40 yard dash I'm not listening to anything about trading for the number 2 till about the week before the draft
Feb 27, 2012 11:51pm
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Feb 28, 2012 12:05 AM
No thanks on countering that Redskins offer. Holy shit do they suck at negotiating.
Feb 28, 2012 12:05am
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Feb 28, 2012 12:37 AM
I'll pass... 4 and 22 Are solid picks to have!!
Feb 28, 2012 12:37am
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Feb 28, 2012 12:40 AM
Midstate01;1098744 wrote:I'll pass... 4 and 22 Are solid picks to have!!
Exactly..don't get cute, having 2 picks in the first 22 is HUGE, why get all tricky and start making crazy trades? Just take what you have and draft well.
Feb 28, 2012 12:40am
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Feb 28, 2012 12:45 AM
Yeah, I think the Redskins front office is unreasonable. They would be the type of team to give up too much to get him. The Browns best hope is that Rams ask for too much, the Redskins panic and go after and get Manning or Flynn prior to the draft.

If the Redskins make the trade, I see the Browns looking to see who wants Kahlil at #4 and trade back. (assuming the Vikings want Blackmon)
Feb 28, 2012 12:45am
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Feb 28, 2012 5:20 AM
Sonofanump;1098752 wrote:Yeah, I think the Redskins front office is unreasonable. They would be the type of team to give up too much to get him. The Browns best hope is that Rams ask for too much, the Redskins panic and go after and get Manning or Flynn prior to the draft.

If the Redskins make the trade, I see the Browns looking to see who wants Kahlil at #4 and trade back. (assuming the Vikings want Blackmon)
The "wildcard" in this is that Shanahan & Jeff Fisher are "buddies" so they know each others needs.

I'm not going to be concerned until the trade is actually made but I think there's a very good chance it happens before the draft.
Feb 28, 2012 5:20am
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Feb 28, 2012 7:24 AM
Hearing the offer to Peyton Hillis is in the 3 year, $10 million range....
Feb 28, 2012 7:24am
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Feb 28, 2012 7:56 AM
BR1986FB;1098799 wrote:Hearing the offer to Peyton Hillis is in the 3 year, $10 million range....
How much guaranteed?
Feb 28, 2012 7:56am
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Feb 28, 2012 8:04 AM
IggyPride00;1098806 wrote:How much guaranteed?
Have not heard. Just heard the general info that Fox 8 was reporting.

He should take that because if he hits the open market I think he'll be in for a rude awakening regarding his "value." The report said they were "close."
Feb 28, 2012 8:04am
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Feb 28, 2012 8:16 AM
I took Fox 8 already said we had a deal in place last week?:rolleyes:

If that is the deal, that's more than fair. lolfail on Hillis for not taking the deal last season.
Feb 28, 2012 8:16am
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Feb 28, 2012 8:17 AM
I think that offer is less than what they originally offered but I might be wrong on that.
Feb 28, 2012 8:17am
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Feb 28, 2012 8:32 AM
Last yrs offer was 4 yrs $25 mil I believe. Way to fail Hillis, ya dipshit. That's what happens when you continuously fire your agents.
Feb 28, 2012 8:32am
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Feb 28, 2012 8:55 AM
Commander of Awesome;1098829 wrote:Last yrs offer was 4 yrs $25 mil I believe. Way to fail Hillis, ya dipshit. That's what happens when you continuously fire your agents.
I don't think it was that high because Gocong's was 3/$16 million and I think Hillis' was less. Heard a lot of bitching about how the Hillis offer was an "insult" because of his value over Gocong's.
Feb 28, 2012 8:55am
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Feb 28, 2012 9:19 AM
Orange and Brown Rpt ‏ @TheOBR Close
Channel 19 reports #PeytonHillis #Browns is close to an incentive laden multi year deal.

I like the "incentive laden" part. Hopefully it will keep his china doll ass on the field.
Feb 28, 2012 9:19am
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Feb 28, 2012 9:52 AM
3 years 10 mil is nothin. I like the signing. Like BR said, hopefully the incentive laden part(if true) keeps him on the field and he works on not caughing the ball up every other game.
Feb 28, 2012 9:52am
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Feb 28, 2012 10:21 AM
Hillis offer in November was 3 years, $16.5 million...LOL
Feb 28, 2012 10:21am
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Feb 28, 2012 12:04 PM
BR1986FB;1098926 wrote:Hillis offer in November was 3 years, $16.5 million...LOL
He really fucked himself.

I do like the offer now, tho.
Feb 28, 2012 12:04pm
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Feb 28, 2012 12:05 PM
royal_k;1099043 wrote:He really fucked himself.

I do like the offer now, tho.
lol yeah he did, greedy dumbass.
Feb 28, 2012 12:05pm
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Feb 28, 2012 1:49 PM
If an agent said ain't. Then he's probably an idiot.
Feb 28, 2012 1:49pm
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Feb 28, 2012 1:59 PM
Hell, Hillis is on board for a couple mil even at the new offer for just being a fan favorite, no one would put up that much given his fairy approach to the game and fumblitis. He should sign and be happy.
Feb 28, 2012 1:59pm