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2012 Cleveland Browns thread: AKA Pat Shurmur Memorial thread

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Jan 25, 2012 2:59 PM
se-alum;1065359 wrote:Wright will probably be the 2nd WR taken, so I can't see him being there at #22. I'd rather go after Garcon in FA, and get Sanu with the first pick of the 2nd round. Use the 2nd first rounder for a DE/LB. This is assuming they go after RGIII with their first pick.
I'm a big Sanu fan as well. I would estatic if it ran down that way in the draft. Getting him or Quick in the second would be a steal.
Jan 25, 2012 2:59pm
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Jan 25, 2012 3:02 PM
BR1986FB;1065368 wrote:You wouldn't want him on the Browns opposite of Little?
Well sure, but I'd want about 25 other WRs before Mike Wallace.

YOu're obsessed wi/ speed, like sealum siad, it's overrated when putting together an offense. You really think we're going to go from pretenders to contenders with 4.4 guys instead of 4.5 guys?
Jan 25, 2012 3:02pm
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Jan 25, 2012 3:03 PM
BR1986FB;1065384 wrote:The whole receiving corps doesn't need to be blazing but you do need one. A bunch of 4.5/4.6 guys like Blackmon/Little/Cribbs/MoMass will limit the offense.
It won't limit the offense, we just won't have a speed guy.

Did the Niners have a speed guy? They did alright this year
Jan 25, 2012 3:03pm
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Jan 25, 2012 3:04 PM
Browns should trade a 2nd or 3rd rounder for Tedd Ginn.
Jan 25, 2012 3:04pm
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Jan 25, 2012 3:07 PM
se-alum;1065371 wrote:I'm saying, imo, speed is overrated. Give me a guy that runs sharp routes and can catch the ball over a speed guy w/ average hands. You can get deep routes with your scheme and good route running. Guys like Rice and TO weren't what would be considered fast, but they caught plenty of deep balls. Speed is pretty far down the list when I'm looking for a #1 WR.
You're saying "speed is overrated" yet you're basically saying what I'm saying "get a burner in free agency." Garcon has run between a 4.37 and a 4.42. That's plenty fast enough.
Jan 25, 2012 3:07pm
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Jan 25, 2012 3:10 PM
sleeper;1065396 wrote:Browns should trade a 2nd or 3rd rounder for Tedd Ginn.
That would be a great move if the Browns didn't already have the greatest kick returner of all time and if Ted Ginn could catch...
Jan 25, 2012 3:10pm
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Jan 25, 2012 3:15 PM
Y-Town Steelhound;1065403 wrote:That would be a great move if the Browns didn't already have the greatest kick returner of all time and if Ted Ginn could catch...
Browns don't have hester, and the 2nd greatest KR of all time has lost a step (or 5). I wouldn't give up 2 picks for Ted Ginn anyway tho lol.
Jan 25, 2012 3:15pm
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Jan 25, 2012 3:20 PM
How the fuck do "accidentaly" type it then "accidentaly" tweet it?
Jan 25, 2012 3:20pm
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Jan 25, 2012 3:21 PM
ytownfootball;1065419 wrote:How the fuck do "accidentaly" type it then "accidentaly" tweet it?
Drunk tweet?
Jan 25, 2012 3:21pm
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Jan 25, 2012 3:22 PM
LMAO pwned. Funny that it took a bad PR move and not his horrible reporting to can him. He should continue his career as a Sci Fi writer since thats all he wrote for the PD.
Jan 25, 2012 3:22pm
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Jan 25, 2012 3:24 PM
Jim Rome always talks about Twitter being a loaded gun. This is just another example.
And remember, twitter is a loaded gun. W/ no safety. If U wouldn't say it to a reporter or put it in a column, don't tweet it. No different.
Jan 25, 2012 3:24pm
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Jan 25, 2012 3:27 PM
Drunk might explain it but damn you're a "professional". Just...what an idiot...have fun covering the 9th grade girls hoop games.
Jan 25, 2012 3:27pm
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Jan 25, 2012 3:30 PM
ytownfootball;1065431 wrote:Drunk might explain it but damn you're a "professional". Just...what an idiot...have fun covering the 9th grade girls hoop games.
"Professional?" We are talking about Grossi. Guys like him and Rizzo from WKNR actually believe they have the "power" to "make or break" and "run out of town" head coaches in Cleveland. Their heads are mega inflated.
Jan 25, 2012 3:30pm
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Jan 25, 2012 3:37 PM
BR1986FB;1065436 wrote:"Professional?" We are talking about Grossi. Guys like him and Rizzo from WKNR actually believe they have the "power" to "make or break" and "run out of town" head coaches in Cleveland. Their heads are mega inflated.
Yeah thus the air quotes, hoping to get a little more positive spin out of local coverage. At least realistic and not self aggrandizing bullshit and over bloated self worth. I'm happy, too bad it took so long. Wonder if Rizzo tones it down a bit lol.
Jan 25, 2012 3:37pm
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Jan 25, 2012 3:43 PM
I can't see drafting a QB in the Top 5... and then with another 1st round pick, not taking someone that can help him out directly. Be it Jeffery, Flloyd, Wright, Adams, etc. Like I said before... if RG3 is indeed the pick, they can't even consider drafting for defense until the 4th round.

Ideally, with their first 4 picks, they'd get a QB, a WR, a RT, and a RB.

They do need a book end across from Sheard, 1 or 2 more starting caliber LBs, and more depth at CB... but IMO, the offensive needs are more critical at this point.
Jan 25, 2012 3:43pm
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Jan 25, 2012 3:45 PM
BR1986FB;1065400 wrote:You're saying "speed is overrated" yet you're basically saying what I'm saying "get a burner in free agency." Garcon has run between a 4.37 and a 4.42. That's plenty fast enough.
I want Garcon for his YAC ability, not so much his downfield speed. He's got quick feet in traffic, and that's what you need in the WCO. I'll be fine with it if they go for a pure burner later in the draft(4-7).
Jan 25, 2012 3:45pm
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Jan 25, 2012 3:48 PM
BTrev;1065451 wrote:I can't see drafting a QB in the Top 5... and then with another 1st round pick, not taking someone that can help him out directly. Be it Jeffery, Flloyd, Wright, Adams, etc. Like I said before... if RG3 is indeed the pick, they can't even consider drafting for defense until the 4th round.

Ideally, with their first 4 picks, they'd get a QB, a WR, a RT, and a RB.

They do need a book end across from Sheard, 1 or 2 more starting caliber LBs, and more depth at CB... but IMO, the offensive needs are more critical at this point.
I think they will get a WR, RT & RDE in free agency.
Jan 25, 2012 3:48pm
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Jan 25, 2012 3:49 PM
se-alum;1065454 wrote:I want Garcon for his YAC ability, not so much his downfield speed. He's got quick feet in traffic, and that's what you need in the WCO. I'll be fine with it if they go for a pure burner later in the draft(4-7).
He still supposedly has run a 4.37 and that is indeed "downfield speed."
Jan 25, 2012 3:49pm
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Jan 25, 2012 3:49 PM
BTrev;1065451 wrote:I can't see drafting a QB in the Top 5... and then with another 1st round pick, not taking someone that can help him out directly. Be it Jeffery, Flloyd, Wright, Adams, etc. Like I said before... if RG3 is indeed the pick, they can't even consider drafting for defense until the 4th round.

Ideally, with their first 4 picks, they'd get a QB, a WR, a RT, and a RB.

They do need a book end across from Sheard, 1 or 2 more starting caliber LBs, and more depth at CB... but IMO, the offensive needs are more critical at this point.
It's just not that easy though. You have to get value at your pick. If the LBs available at the 37 are better than the RT's available at 37, you have to take the LB. You can't just take a questionable RT because that's what you need. The Browns are "set" at any position, so you have take the best player on your board.
Jan 25, 2012 3:49pm
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Jan 25, 2012 3:51 PM
BR1986FB;1065460 wrote:He still supposedly has run a 4.37 and that is indeed "downfield speed."
Yea, never said it wasn't.
Jan 25, 2012 3:51pm
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Jan 25, 2012 4:02 PM
Y-Town Steelhound;1065403 wrote:That would be a great move if the Browns didn't already have the greatest kick returner of all time and if Ted Ginn could catch...
The Browns don't have Ted Ginn and Ted Ginn can catch. Do you even watch football? Ginn would instantly become the Browns best receiver and would be a much needed deep threat.
Jan 25, 2012 4:02pm
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Jan 25, 2012 4:09 PM
like_that;1065413 wrote:Browns don't have hester, and the 2nd greatest KR of all time has lost a step (or 5). I wouldn't give up 2 picks for Ted Ginn anyway tho lol.
Disagree on the first part, we're not talking punt returner. Lost a step? See Ravens game last year and get back to me.
Jan 25, 2012 4:09pm