2012 Cleveland Browns thread: AKA Pat Shurmur Memorial thread

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Oct 31, 2012 2:56 PM
BR1986FB;1309098 wrote:And half of the league is within 3 yards of him on kickoff returns so I take that #2 ranking with a grain of salt.

He's lost a step. The ones he's kind of broke this year would've been TD's a few years ago plus every time he gets hit you have to cross your fingers he doesn't fumble.

Dude is a shell of his former self.
Agreed. I like Cribbs, but he isn't going to be worth the money. If he wants to take a home town discount, then I wouldn't mind.

That may as well just happen too. I don't see many teams lining up at his door to sign him after this season.
Oct 31, 2012 2:56pm
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Oct 31, 2012 2:57 PM
BR1986FB;1309098 wrote:And half of the league is within 3 yards of him on kickoff returns so I take that #2 ranking with a grain of salt.

He's lost a step. The ones he's kind of broke this year would've been TD's a few years ago plus every time he gets hit you have to cross your fingers he doesn't fumble.

Dude is a shell of his former self.
Not in his prime, but like I said, still does his job, and well.

I assume you are talking about AVG/return (which he is actually 4th in). Cribbs has the most returns in the league, so he is at more of a "true" average, while others have 10ish with a touchdown to inflate their average, compared to Cribbs' 24 returns and no 100+ yard returns.

And he only has 1 fumble this year.
Oct 31, 2012 2:57pm
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Oct 31, 2012 3:37 PM
Nice....

http://cle.scout.com/2/1235336.html
Oct 31, 2012 3:37pm
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Oct 31, 2012 3:57 PM
It's scary to think of what Weeden can do if the running game truly takes off. We've had glimpses of a good run game, but not enough to feel good moving forward as of now. The culture is changing. There is more positivity out of Cleveland now then there has been in a long time.
Oct 31, 2012 3:57pm
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Oct 31, 2012 4:42 PM
Gameover;1309176 wrote:It's scary to think of what Weeden can do if the running game truly takes off. We've had glimpses of a good run game, but not enough to feel good moving forward as of now. The culture is changing. There is more positivity out of Cleveland now then there has been in a long time.

A lot of that has to do with the fb play and guard play. I think they really need to get a guard or 2 in this draft
Oct 31, 2012 4:42pm
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Oct 31, 2012 5:22 PM
Crimson streak;1309236 wrote:A lot of that has to do with the fb play and guard play. I think they really need to get a guard or 2 in this draft
Agreed. Schwartz will continue to improve, and Thomas is one of the best in the league. We could, however, stand to improve at G, and I think that is a position that they will likely address at next year's draft.
Oct 31, 2012 5:22pm
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Oct 31, 2012 7:29 PM
On another positive note, I love that I'm watching Mike & Mike talk about the top 5 QB questions in the NFL, and the Browns are not included. Hopefully we are on the upswing, even if he IS 29 years old.
Oct 31, 2012 7:29pm
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Oct 31, 2012 7:37 PM
The more I think about we need to get a stud pass rushing de in this draft. Look at all the great defenses in the nfl over the years.
Bears- peppers
Texans- jj watt
Ravens- Suggs
Steelers- Harrison Woodley

They all have elite pass rushers. I wish clowney was eligible. He is the most gifted de to come out since javon kearse. But I would like Montgomery from lsu
Oct 31, 2012 7:37pm
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Oct 31, 2012 7:40 PM
I want a nasty safety in this draft. We haven't had one of those since...?
Oct 31, 2012 7:40pm
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Oct 31, 2012 7:41 PM
I like Reid or even the guy from Oklahoma
Oct 31, 2012 7:41pm
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Oct 31, 2012 10:02 PM
SportsAndLady;1309357 wrote:I want a nasty safety in this draft. We haven't had one of those since...?
Eric Turner.
Oct 31, 2012 10:02pm
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Oct 31, 2012 10:15 PM
Crimson streak;1309359 wrote:I like Reid or even the guy from Oklahoma
I like reid and mcdonald (usc)
Oct 31, 2012 10:15pm
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Nov 1, 2012 10:30 AM
Not to beat a dead horse on the Mike Lombardi thing but be VERY afraid if he ends up here. I've heard recent soundclips of him bashing just about every Heckert draft pick, including saying Josh Gordon was a wasted picked.

Keep in mind, this is the same clown who worked with Belichick here in Cleveland who was involved in the Craig Powell selection in the draft. He also swayed Belichick from drafting Warren Sapp because he was a "druggie." If Lombardi ends up the GM, 1999 to present will look like "good times."
Nov 1, 2012 10:30am
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Nov 1, 2012 11:07 AM
BR1986FB;1309824 wrote:Not to beat a dead horse on the Mike Lombardi thing but be VERY afraid if he ends up here. I've heard recent soundclips of him bashing just about every Heckert draft pick, including saying Josh Gordon was a wasted picked. Keep in mind, this is the same clown who worked with Belichick here in Cleveland who was involved in the Craig Powell selection in the draft. He also swayed Belichick from drafting Warren Sapp because he was a "druggie." If Lombardi ends up the GM, 1999 to present will look like "good times."
How could it possibly be worse? We win 3 games a year instead of 4? You said things like this about if banner has a say in personnel and about a couple coach and gm possibilities. The team can't do any worse than they have since 99.
Nov 1, 2012 11:07am
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Nov 1, 2012 11:20 AM
Rotinaj;1309855 wrote:How could it possibly be worse? We win 3 games a year instead of 4? You said things like this about if banner has a say in personnel and about a couple coach and gm possibilities. The team can't do any worse than they have since 99.
Yes, it could be worse. Lombardi is an abortion. Do some research on the teams he's run into the ground.
Nov 1, 2012 11:20am
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Nov 1, 2012 12:04 PM
BR1986FB;1309867 wrote:Yes, it could be worse. Lombardi is an abortion. Do some research on the teams he's run into the ground.
why do you think there's any truth to rumors about him? If he sucks so bad, why in god's green earth would he be given the keys to the Browns?
Nov 1, 2012 12:04pm
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Nov 1, 2012 12:14 PM
derek bomar;1309912 wrote:why do you think there's any truth to rumors about him? If he sucks so bad, why in god's green earth would he be given the keys to the Browns?
He's connected to Banner.
Nov 1, 2012 12:14pm
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Nov 1, 2012 12:35 PM
So apparently, on SportsCenter, Adam Schefter said that Massaquoi is drawing trade interest? WTF?
Nov 1, 2012 12:35pm
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Nov 1, 2012 12:47 PM
BR1986FB;1309934 wrote:So apparently, on SportsCenter, Adam Schefter said that Massaquoi is drawing trade interest? WTF?
I bet it's Green Bay....with Jennings likely out the rest of the year, they are probably looking for a WR that's been in the WCO. Just my guess though.
Nov 1, 2012 12:47pm
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Nov 1, 2012 12:50 PM
BR1986FB;1309934 wrote:So apparently, on SportsCenter, Adam Schefter said that Massaquoi is drawing trade interest? WTF?
Massaquoi is probably our best WR when he is on the field. We all know how that goes though..
Nov 1, 2012 12:50pm
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Nov 1, 2012 12:55 PM
MoMass is not our best WR. He's not even top 3.
Nov 1, 2012 12:55pm
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Nov 1, 2012 1:10 PM
Commander of Awesome;1309944 wrote:MoMass is not our best WR. He's not even top 3.
Keyword, probably. Not even top 3? Who do you have at 2?
Nov 1, 2012 1:10pm
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Nov 1, 2012 1:18 PM
OQB;1309939 wrote:I bet it's Green Bay....with Jennings likely out the rest of the year, they are probably looking for a WR that's been in the WCO. Just my guess though.
Package MoMass and McCoy, who they wanted earlier, for a draft pick. :D
Nov 1, 2012 1:18pm
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Nov 1, 2012 1:24 PM
Could we get a 2nd/3rd round pick for both of them?
Nov 1, 2012 1:24pm
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Nov 1, 2012 1:37 PM
OQB;1309985 wrote:Could we get a 2nd/3rd round pick for both of them?
:laugh: Be lucky to get a 4th for both.
Nov 1, 2012 1:37pm