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Jan 10, 2012 9:01 AM
Kirk Cousins in the 4th or 5th to develop around a fa stop gap
Jan 10, 2012 9:01am
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Jan 10, 2012 9:11 AM
I just think the price to get Flynn will be pretty high. I would anticipate the Packers franchising him if they think they can trade him.
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Jan 10, 2012 9:16 AM
Commander of Awesome;1046684 wrote:I just think the price to get Flynn will be pretty high. I would anticipate the Packers franchising him if they think they can trade him.
That's risky. If nobody pays their price they are stuck with a $16 million cap hit when Aaron Rodgers is making about half that.

And NO MORE friggin "stopgap" QB's. I think Holmgren learned his lesson with Delhomme. We've seen enough of the Delhomme's, Garcia's, etc. Get a young guy worth building around and move forward.
Jan 10, 2012 9:16am
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Jan 10, 2012 9:21 AM
With weapons a stop gap still makes you competitive. See Houston. Hell colt could be that stop gap for cousins
Jan 10, 2012 9:21am
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Jan 10, 2012 9:41 AM
BR1986FB;1046691 wrote: And NO MORE friggin "stopgap" QB's. I think Holmgren learned his lesson with Delhomme. We've seen enough of the Delhomme's, Garcia's, etc. Get a young guy worth building around and move forward.
That's what I'm afraid of, I dont think Holmgren has learned his lesson.
Jan 10, 2012 9:41am
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Jan 10, 2012 9:44 AM
It's a 3 year project, were in year 1.5...chill out.
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Jan 10, 2012 9:53 AM
bases_loaded;1046728 wrote:It's a 3 year project, were in year 1.5...chill out.
It's like friggin Groundhog Day...bring in a shitty stopgap, he fails, rinse, repeat. The only time they've pulled the trigger on what could've been thought was a somewhat legit franchise QB was when they drafted Couch. The Quinn selection was dicey at best.

Would rather see a young guy, with upside, brought in than an over the hill (see Jason Campbell) QB on his last legs.
Jan 10, 2012 9:53am
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Jan 10, 2012 9:53 AM
Commander of Awesome;1046721 wrote:That's what I'm afraid of, I dont think Holmgren has learned his lesson.
Agreed, it seems like he is insisting on molding an unheralded QB, since he did it with 2 QBs. The only difference is he was coaching when he molded the QBs, this time around he has patty boy who would have to try and mold the next QB.
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Jan 10, 2012 9:59 AM
like_that;1046743 wrote:Agreed, it seems like he is insisting on molding an unheralded QB, since he did it with 2 QBs. The only difference is he was coaching when he molded the QBs, this time around he has patty boy who would have to try and mold the next QB.
That's why I've thought Flynn could be his target. Fits a similar bill to Hasselbeck & Favre. A stopgap wouldn't really be someone he'd "mold/groom."
Jan 10, 2012 9:59am
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Jan 10, 2012 10:05 AM
BR1986FB;1046742 wrote:It's like friggin Groundhog Day...bring in a ****ty stopgap, he fails, rinse, repeat. The only time they've pulled the trigger on what could've been thought was a somewhat legit franchise QB was when they drafted Couch. The Quinn selection was dicey at best.

Would rather see a young guy, with upside, brought in than an over the hill (see Jason Campbell) QB on his last legs.

Year one: take care of defense. Check
Year two: take care if offense. April
Year three:fill in holes. Next year
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Jan 10, 2012 10:23 AM
bases_loaded;1046758 wrote:Year one: take care of defense. Check
Year two: take care if offense. April
Year three:fill in holes. Next year
With three teams in the division already in the playoffs, they might want to expedite this process.
Jan 10, 2012 10:23am
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Jan 10, 2012 10:32 AM
BR1986FB;1046781 wrote:With three teams in the division already in the playoffs, they might want to expedite this process.

When your prior regime drafted 3 busts in the second round,its hard to expedite the process. Unless of course you want a bunch of stop gaps
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Jan 10, 2012 10:36 AM
bases_loaded;1046801 wrote:When your prior regime drafted 3 busts in the second round,its hard to expedite the process. Unless of course you want a bunch of stop gaps
If they deem Flynn their franchise QB, he wouldn't be a stopgap.
Jan 10, 2012 10:36am
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Jan 10, 2012 10:39 AM
I agree. My scenario of drafting Cousins is for when Washington and Miami outbid us of flynn. This off season and draft will adress the offense.
Jan 10, 2012 10:39am
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Jan 10, 2012 10:42 AM
What is up with these\ QBs not wanting to come out? Seems dumb to me to play another year again and risk injury for Free. Plus staying another year almost never works in their favor see Leinhart. Luck stayed and was still the #1 pick, same with Bradford. Just don't see the benefit. Gotta leave the nest pussies.
Jan 10, 2012 10:42am
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Jan 10, 2012 10:42 AM
bases_loaded;1046810 wrote:I agree. My scenario of drafting Cousins is for when Washington and Miami outbid us of flynn. This off season and draft will adress the offense.
Watching Cousins for most of his career, he's trash.
Jan 10, 2012 10:42am
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Jan 10, 2012 10:43 AM
Cousins is awful...I wouldn't take him if he was an unsigned free agent
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Jan 10, 2012 10:44 AM
Commander of Awesome;1046819 wrote:Watching Cousins for most of his career, he's trash.

So was Matt Flynn
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Jan 10, 2012 10:47 AM
wes_mantooth;1046820 wrote:Cousins is awful...I wouldn't take him if he was an unsigned free agent
I agree completely.
Jan 10, 2012 10:47am
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Jan 10, 2012 10:47 AM
bases_loaded;1046822 wrote:So was Matt Flynn
In comparison to Cousins?
Jan 10, 2012 10:47am
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Jan 10, 2012 10:49 AM
Cousins looks better in college than Flynn ever did.
Jan 10, 2012 10:49am
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Jan 10, 2012 10:50 AM
bases_loaded;1046829 wrote:Cousins looks better in college than Flynn ever did.
That's your opinion, I disagree.
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Jan 10, 2012 10:52 AM
Commander of Awesome;1046817 wrote:What is up with these\ QBs not wanting to come out? Seems dumb to me to play another year again and risk injury for Free. Plus staying another year almost never works in their favor see Leinhart. Luck stayed and was still the #1 pick, same with Bradford. Just don't see the benefit. Gotta leave the nest pussies.
Afraid the Browns would draft them. :(
Jan 10, 2012 10:52am