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Mar 31, 2012 7:34 AM
lhslep134;1132025 wrote:Part of the reason I hate Todd McShay: he's an idiot and is only on ESPN because of his daddy.

From his Tannehill article:





Are you kidding me McShay?
That makes him an idiot? Sounds like someone is jealous.
Mar 31, 2012 7:34am
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BR1986FB

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Mar 31, 2012 9:23 AM
The Huddle Report ‏ @
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ESCH: Hearing Cowboys are talking to Browns about moving from 14 up to 4.
Target would be LSU CB Morris Claiborne.
Mar 31, 2012 9:23am
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Mar 31, 2012 9:25 AM
BR1986FB;1132492 wrote:The Huddle Report ‏ @
TheHuddleReport
ESCH: Hearing Cowboys are talking to Browns about moving from 14 up to 4.
Target would be LSU CB Morris Claiborne.
What kind of picks do the Cowboys have for us?
Mar 31, 2012 9:25am
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BR1986FB

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Mar 31, 2012 9:32 AM
bases_loaded;1132493 wrote:What kind of picks do the Cowboys have for us?
To drop that far you can bet your ass we'd be getting their 2013 1st rounder at a minimum.
Mar 31, 2012 9:32am
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Mar 31, 2012 9:38 AM
BR1986FB;1132492 wrote:The Huddle Report ‏ @
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ESCH: Hearing Cowboys are talking to Browns about moving from 14 up to 4.
Target would be LSU CB Morris Claiborne.
That is just too far to move back at this point.

We need to walk away with one of Claiborne/Blackmon/Richardson this year. We need someone who can make an impact, not another "solid" Phil Taylor type that isn't a potential game changer.

In year 3 of the rebuild, we can't keep putting it off until next year hoping to accumulate more picks. Time to take some decisive action.
Mar 31, 2012 9:38am
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Mar 31, 2012 9:47 AM
IggyPride00;1132497 wrote:That is just too far to move back at this point.

We need to walk away with one of Claiborne/Blackmon/Richardson this year. We need someone who can make an impact, not another "solid" Phil Taylor type that isn't a potential game changer.

In year 3 of the rebuild, we can't keep putting it off until next year hoping to accumulate more picks. Time to take some decisive action.
I have no problem going back that far because if for some reason they luck out and win 5-6 games they will need that extra 1st to move up to get a QB. Can still get one of the good WR's or maybe Decastro at that spot.
Mar 31, 2012 9:47am
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Mar 31, 2012 10:19 AM
IggyPride00;1132497 wrote:That is just too far to move back at this point.

We need to walk away with one of Claiborne/Blackmon/Richardson this year. We need someone who can make an impact, not another "solid" Phil Taylor type that isn't a potential game changer.

In year 3 of the rebuild, we can't keep putting it off until next year hoping to accumulate more picks. Time to take some decisive action.
Sorry but those 3 guys are not a MUST to draft. RB's are dime a dozen, plenty of WR talent where Blackmon isn't a MUST draft prospect, and although Claiborne would be nice, the defense is pretty solid to begin with. I will take the extra picks, especially another first rounder any day of the week.
Mar 31, 2012 10:19am
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Mar 31, 2012 10:57 AM
If they dropped back to 14 they could target DeCastro/Michael Floyd/Kuelchy? and with their 22nd pick they can go with whatever position they didnt go after with their first pick.
Mar 31, 2012 10:57am
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Mar 31, 2012 11:11 AM
like_that;1132505 wrote:Sorry but those 3 guys are not a MUST to draft. RB's are dime a dozen, plenty of WR talent where Blackmon isn't a MUST draft prospect, and although Claiborne would be nice, the defense is pretty solid to begin with. I will take the extra picks, especially another first rounder any day of the week.
Agreed.

Of the three, I think Richardson makes the biggest impact but I'd be more than willing to move back, add extra picks, and get a player at 14 that would still make an immediate impact.

Besides Richardson, I just really don't see Blackmon or Claiborne being that "game changer." Claiborne will likely be a very good corner but HOW many teams truly have what could be considered TWO "shutdown" corners? They could get by with just a solid corner opposite of Haden if they have a strong enough pass rush. Blackmon I'm sure will be solid but I don't see him having that AJ Green impact as a rookie.

Plus if you can go into next years draft with two #1's, again, that would be something...especially if their record ends up bad enough where they don't have to use both of those 1st's to move up for their QB and they can use the second 1st on another player.
Mar 31, 2012 11:11am
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Mar 31, 2012 11:26 AM
Trade back, and get Quenton coples with the 14th pick?
Mar 31, 2012 11:26am
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Mar 31, 2012 11:49 AM
At 14 I would like them to target Decastro, Reiff, Floyd, Tannehill (if he gets by Miami).....in that order
Mar 31, 2012 11:49am
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Mar 31, 2012 12:26 PM
lol, I just want the draft to get here. All these rumors are hilarious....we have talked about getting RG3, Blackmon, Claiborne, Richardson, Tannehill....all with the 4th pick. And that is just within the last month.

I hate that the draft means more to us Cleveland than what the regular season does....because our team sucks.
Mar 31, 2012 12:26pm
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Mar 31, 2012 12:40 PM
^^ best part of our season coming up this month. Its sad
Mar 31, 2012 12:40pm
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Mar 31, 2012 3:40 PM
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1126660-2012-nfl-draft-cleveland-browns-dreamers-mock-draft#/articles/1126660-2012-nfl-draft-cleveland-browns-dreamers-mock-draft/page/2

I would be acstatic if the Browns had this kind of draft! I know these 7 round draft things are highly unrealistic, but I really like some of these guys in the mid to late rounds. I really like the first 3 or 4 picks on this.
Mar 31, 2012 3:40pm
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Mar 31, 2012 3:51 PM
zach24oz;1132613 wrote:http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1126660-2012-nfl-draft-cleveland-browns-dreamers-mock-draft#/articles/1126660-2012-nfl-draft-cleveland-browns-dreamers-mock-draft/page/2

I would be acstatic if the Browns had this kind of draft! I know these 7 round draft things are highly unrealistic, but I really like some of these guys in the mid to late rounds. I really like the first 3 or 4 picks on this.
Key word in that title is "dreamer's."
Mar 31, 2012 3:51pm
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Mar 31, 2012 4:13 PM
zach24oz;1132613 wrote:http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1126660-2012-nfl-draft-cleveland-browns-dreamers-mock-draft#/articles/1126660-2012-nfl-draft-cleveland-browns-dreamers-mock-draft/page/2

I would be acstatic if the Browns had this kind of draft! I know these 7 round draft things are highly unrealistic, but I really like some of these guys in the mid to late rounds. I really like the first 3 or 4 picks on this.
Mar 31, 2012 4:13pm
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Mar 31, 2012 4:42 PM
Do yourself a favor and stay away from Bleacher Report, unless its one of their featured columnist.
Mar 31, 2012 4:42pm
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Mar 31, 2012 4:58 PM
DeyDurkie5;1132527 wrote:Trade back, and get Quenton coples with the 14th pick?
No diss to you, Durk, but I wouldn't take Coples...PERIOD.
Mar 31, 2012 4:58pm
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Mar 31, 2012 5:02 PM
If you trade back to 14 and DeCastro is there, it's a no brainer to me.
Mar 31, 2012 5:02pm
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Mar 31, 2012 5:04 PM
BR1986FB;1132661 wrote:No diss to you, Durk, but I wouldn't take Coples...PERIOD.
Why do you say this?
Mar 31, 2012 5:04pm
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Mar 31, 2012 5:26 PM
The Bleacher Reports' draft isnt any different than what anyone else has really said on here...they have them taking Richardson and Hill in the 1st round. I've seen a lot of people saying that they'd take those 2 in the first and to get an OL like that in the 2nd round isnt that far fetched. I think Lavonte David could be there still in the 2-4 rounds and I would take a shot on Burfict in the 5th-6th round if he's there. Getting any kind of wr who runs around a 4.3 40 I would take a shot on just to add that to the offense because everyone knows this offense needs speed.
Mar 31, 2012 5:26pm
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Mar 31, 2012 5:38 PM
like_that;1132664 wrote:If you trade back to 14 and DeCastro is there, it's a no brainer to me.
So are 3 best offensive players can be lineman? Is there any team in the history of the NFL that has ever won more than 5-6 games that can say that?

I am all for a good O-line, but what is with the mental block in this city against anyone that is capable of helping us point points on the board at a skill position?
Mar 31, 2012 5:38pm