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Mar 14, 2012 1:25 PM
I just go back to what I said during the season, hoping for FA is fools gold. I'm not going to bitch and moan about not signing FAs like Haynesworth, giving Garcon $50mil when he hasn't even had a 1000 yd season. Same with Meachem. You guys are getting worked up over nothing.
Mar 14, 2012 1:25pm
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Mar 14, 2012 1:28 PM
Ben Tate is easily worth the second round pick. As far as his durability, he will certainly be an upgrade over Hillis. Yes he broke his ankle... but, HE BROKE HIS ANKLE. That's a bone, not a minor injury. As far as Kolb, I would prefer him over Flynn because he can at least throw the ball downfield. He may be unproven as well, but at least he would be cheaper with more experience than Flynn.
Mar 14, 2012 1:28pm
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Mar 14, 2012 1:28 PM
Commander of Awesome;1116006 wrote:I just go back to what I said during the season, hoping for FA is fools gold. I'm not going to bitch and moan about not signing FAs like Haynesworth, giving Garcon $50mil when he hasn't even had a 1000 yd season. Same with Meachem. You guys are getting worked up over nothing.
you are probably right, but I just want to see this team make a splash once in my lifetime. I usually don't care much for free agency, but this seemed to be a strong class and thought there was some room to upgrade.
Mar 14, 2012 1:28pm
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Mar 14, 2012 1:36 PM
wes_mantooth;1116012 wrote:you are probably right, but I just want to see this team make a splash once in my lifetime. I usually don't care much for free agency, but this seemed to be a strong class and thought there was some room to upgrade.
As previously mentioned, they made a splash a few years back and got Corey Williams and Shaun Rogers... that turned out well! lol
Mar 14, 2012 1:36pm
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Mar 14, 2012 1:36 PM
BR1986FB;1115933 wrote:Eagles today announced they have traded T Winston Justice and a 6th round draft choice to the Colts for a 6th round draft choice.

So the Eagles essentially gave Justice to the Colts?
They moved up 14 spots in that crucial 6th round.
Mar 14, 2012 1:36pm
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Mar 14, 2012 1:49 PM
Dr. KnOiTaLL;1116019 wrote:As previously mentioned, they made a splash a few years back and got Corey Williams and Shaun Rogers... that turned out well! lol
Weren't those trades, not free agents?
Mar 14, 2012 1:49pm
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Mar 14, 2012 1:51 PM
Wouldn't THIS be succulent? :rolleyes:

And your 2012 Browns starting quarterback is?: Yes, it could come down to an offseason competition between Colt McCoy and Seneca Wallace. And if it does, don’t be surprised if Wallace makes a much more favorable impression in his third season with the Browns. He was not given the opportunity to compete for a starting job in his first two training camps.


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Mar 14, 2012 1:51pm
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Mar 14, 2012 1:52 PM
Commander of Awesome;1116006 wrote:I just go back to what I said during the season, hoping for FA is fools gold. I'm not going to bitch and moan about not signing FAs like Haynesworth, giving Garcon $50mil when he hasn't even had a 1000 yd season. Same with Meachem. You guys are getting worked up over nothing.
Agreed, I'm not willing to shell out that kind of money for either of these guys. Just because we have cap space doesn't mean that we should use the money frivolously. They obviously have some WR targets in the draft if there hasn't even been a scent of interest during FA. Whether it's Blackmon in the early first, Wright/Hill late first, or other unknowns, obviously they aren't going into the season saying, "Our WR's were good enough, we don't need to address them."
Mar 14, 2012 1:52pm
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Mar 14, 2012 1:54 PM
BR1986FB;1116036 wrote:Weren't those trades, not free agents?
I think Rogers was a trade, but Williams was a FA wasn't he?
Mar 14, 2012 1:54pm
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Mar 14, 2012 1:54 PM
BR1986FB;1116036 wrote:Weren't those trades, not free agents?
Fine then, I give you Steinbach, Joe J, Donte Stallworthless, LCB (throws up), Gary Baxter, Robert fucking Royal, Ted Washington, Willie McGinnest, Matt Stewart, Jamal Lewis (one good yr), Trent Dilfer, Jeff Garcia, etc.... I could go on but I dont feel the need to.
Mar 14, 2012 1:54pm
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Mar 14, 2012 1:55 PM
Dr. KnOiTaLL;1116042 wrote:I think Rogers was a trade, but Williams was a FA wasn't he?
Nope traded a 2nd round pick for him. 3rd and Leigh Bodden for Rogers.
Mar 14, 2012 1:55pm
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Mar 14, 2012 1:58 PM
BR1986FB;1116050 wrote:I'd be very receptive to this, then drafting Tannehill and letting him sit...
As long as it wasn't at the 4th overall pick lol
Mar 14, 2012 1:58pm
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Mar 14, 2012 2:00 PM
Dr. KnOiTaLL;1116051 wrote:As long as it wasn't at the 4th overall pick lol
Miami is going to need a WR. Maybe they go down to #8, Miami takes Blackmon and the Browns grab Tannehill there?
Mar 14, 2012 2:00pm
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Mar 14, 2012 2:09 PM
Man, now that I heard the rumor of getting Tate, I would LOVE that scenario. He's an exceptional young talent, and if we could keep both of our first round picks, that would be a very solid base for rebuilding our offense.

On another note, why did the Vikes sign Carlson? They already have Rudolph and I guess they're done with Shiancoe?
Mar 14, 2012 2:09pm
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Mar 14, 2012 2:24 PM
Interesting link here. Looks to me like the Browns need to release anyone over 28 years old (aside from Dawson).

http://www.waitingfornextyear.com/2012/03/nfl-free-agency-wheres-all-the-browns-money/

Also, the more I read about the Browns QB situation, I think they are looking to take Weeden at 22 or 37. He's the QB in the draft that they have been impressed with. We'll see what happens.
Mar 14, 2012 2:24pm
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Mar 14, 2012 2:46 PM
We may have the first signing. Stole him from a division rival...

Joe Reedy ‏ @ joereedy

Not done yet, but Frostee Rucker to the Browns likely wrapped up by the end of the day
Mar 14, 2012 2:46pm
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Mar 14, 2012 2:48 PM
Have a big USC fan that hates his guts. Still blames him for losing containment on VY in the NC game.
Mar 14, 2012 2:48pm
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Mar 14, 2012 2:59 PM
Commander of Awesome;1116142 wrote:Have a big USC fan that hates his guts. Still blames him for losing containment on VY in the NC game.
Not cool in that he had a previous history of physical violence against women...

Mary Kay Cabot ‏ @ MaryKayCabot League source confirmed # browns are signing former # bengals de frostee Rucker today. 4 sacks and 44 tackles in '11.
Mar 14, 2012 2:59pm
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Mar 14, 2012 3:14 PM
Do I understand this right ?? Next year all teams have to spend 90% of the cap space?? If this is how it works we will have to be signing free agents in 2013 right? With the cap getting a big increase in '13 and '14 ( because that is when the tv money kicks in) how are our division rival Bengals going to spend 50 million?
Mar 14, 2012 3:14pm
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Mar 14, 2012 3:15 PM
Anyone know if Sean Smith is still available?
Mar 14, 2012 3:15pm
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Mar 14, 2012 3:24 PM
Mr Miyagi;1116187 wrote:Do I understand this right ?? Next year all teams have to spend 90% of the cap space?? If this is how it works we will have to be signing free agents in 2013 right? With the cap getting a big increase in '13 and '14 ( because that is when the tv money kicks in) how are our division rival Bengals going to spend 50 million?
Correct
Mar 14, 2012 3:24pm