Archive NFL Rookie of the year

Pick6

Posts: 14,946

Nov 23, 2011 11:05pm

Cam Newton? Na

Andy Dalton? Maybe..

How about....

Dan Bailey

http://www.foxsportssouthwest.com/11/23/11/Cowboys-Bailey-kicking-into-the-record-b/landing_cowboys.html?blockID=611378&feedID=4680

Ironman92

Posts: 49,363

Nov 23, 2011 11:11pm

I voted for Matt Turk.

Iliketurtles

Posts: 8,191

Nov 24, 2011 7:43am

I love Dan Bailey and its great to have a kicker the Cowboys can count on but he won't win Rookie of the Year. I'd give my vote to Von Miller.

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BR1986FB

Posts: 24,104

Nov 24, 2011 7:46am

Yeah, I'd go with Von Miller...f'in beast

killer_ewok

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Nov 24, 2011 8:15am

Cam go HAM. He'd get my vote.

bigdaddy2003

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Nov 24, 2011 10:22am

Torrey Smith.

Firad

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Nov 24, 2011 10:35am

AD14

like_that

Posts: 26,625

Nov 24, 2011 10:35am

bigdaddy2003;985880 wrote:Torrey Smith.

lol no.

bigdaddy2003

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Nov 24, 2011 10:38am

like_that;985890 wrote:lol no.

I was only half serious but he's definitely going to be good.

Laley23

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Nov 24, 2011 11:52am

bigdaddy2003;985894 wrote:I was only half serious but he's definitely going to be good.

He is going to be good. But Von Miller is gonna be a pro bowler this year based on the few games I've seen.

bigdaddy2003

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Nov 24, 2011 11:54am

Yeah, Miller is a beast.

shook_17

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Nov 24, 2011 12:14pm

don't they do a rookie of the year for both sides of the ball? if so.

offense- cam newton

defense- von miller

Mulva

Posts: 13,650

Nov 24, 2011 1:07pm

Offense: Cam right now, AJ Green and DeMarco Murray still in the running
Defense: Von Miller, with Ryan Kerrigan right on his heels

Classyposter58

Posts: 6,321

Nov 24, 2011 8:14pm

Cam hands down best offensive

Pick6

Posts: 14,946

Nov 24, 2011 8:54pm

Mr. Bailey with another game winning kick

Ironman92

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Nov 24, 2011 9:00pm

Pick6;986207 wrote:Mr. Bailey with another game winning kick

That I could've made.

Commander of Awesome

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Nov 24, 2011 9:47pm

bigdaddy2003;985894 wrote:I was only half serious but he's definitely going to be good.

I'm worried he is going to be a Meachem/Stallworth part 2. He doesn't run great routes and all his catches seem to be long bombs. Haven't seen him make all the catches to agree with that prediction. I havent seen every Ravens game though.

gerb131

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Nov 24, 2011 10:03pm

Dalton.

Azubuike24

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Nov 25, 2011 12:11am

If the Bengals make the playoffs, it has to be Andy Dalton for offensive ROY. Cam is great, but if it wasn't for him rushing the ball, his numbers aren't any better than Dalton's.

Mulva

Posts: 13,650

Nov 25, 2011 1:14am

Azubuike24;986401 wrote: Cam is great, but if it wasn't for him rushing the ball, his numbers aren't any better than Dalton's.

First of all, discounting the rushing statistics doesn't make any sense. But 2nd of all, yes they are. He has almost 800 more passing yards, 1.5 more yards/attempt (8.0 to 6.5), and way more big plays (20+ yards).

Dalton has more touchdowns, and that's it. Cam is a gunslinger, and Dalton is a game manager.

The only real argument Dalton has is wins and losses. Which has a lot more to do with the fact that the Bengals defense has allowed almost 100 points less than the Carolina D than anything offensively (Cinci has 11 more points than Carolina on the season, and the Panthers are 5th in the NFL in total offense).

I'd take Green way before Dalton, and Cam before both of them for ROY at this point.

Laley23

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Nov 25, 2011 1:21am

DeMarco Murray would be my #2 choice behind Newton if it ended right now.

Hb31187

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Nov 25, 2011 4:05am

Cam>Dalton, even if they do make the playoffs.

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BR1986FB

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Nov 25, 2011 8:22am

Commander of Awesome;986256 wrote:I'm worried he is going to be a Meachem/Stallworth part 2. He doesn't run great routes and all his catches seem to be long bombs. Haven't seen him make all the catches to agree with that prediction. I havent seen every Ravens game though.

That's the thing with Smith. He's great running a "go" route but he's got a lot to learn as far as precision route running. He's not very good in that facet of his game yet.

Pick6

Posts: 14,946

Nov 25, 2011 11:03am

Mulva;986422 wrote:First of all, discounting the rushing statistics doesn't make any sense. But 2nd of all, yes they are. He has almost 800 more passing yards, 1.5 more yards/attempt (8.0 to 6.5), and way more big plays (20+ yards).

Dalton has more touchdowns, and that's it. Cam is a gunslinger, and Dalton is a game manager.

The only real argument Dalton has is wins and losses. Which has a lot more to do with the fact that the Bengals defense has allowed almost 100 points less than the Carolina D than anything offensively (Cinci has 11 more points than Carolina on the season, and the Panthers are 5th in the NFL in total offense).

I'd take Green way before Dalton, and Cam before both of them for ROY at this point.

How about the # of turnovers Cam has?
How about the fact that he has more interceptions than passing touchdowns?

Doubt a QB has ever won ROY with more interceptions than passing touchdowns.

Pick6

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Nov 25, 2011 11:16am

Cam has:
21 total tds
19 total turnovers.
and his team is 2-8 (tied for 2nd worst record in the NFL)

I think he is regressing, and I just dont see him winning it.

check that, i could actually see him winning it because while his numbers are nothing special, neither are any other rookies. Dalton has basically the same numbers (td/turnover wise) and his team has the better record.

Even though they would never give it to the kicker, Dan Bailey deserves it. Only a rookie and is having a record setting season for a kicker. One of the biggest struggles for the Cowboys the past few years have been the kicking game.

Heres to Murray to continue having a great year and winning it.