There is no "New York Yankees of college football."Abe Vigoda;986202 wrote:No need to turn around the program. OSU football is the New York Yankees of college football. If not for the witch hunt put on for the last few months, the Bucks would be playing for a BCS bowl again. Urban is just the thing they need right now. The number on coach out there now. The recuits will flock in.
If there was it would be Oregon, and Oklahoma State would be the Boston Red Sox, because their owners spend more money than anyone else.Tobias Fünke;986307 wrote:There is no "New York Yankees of college football."
Yeah, and they're all pretty much the same ones the majority of Florida fans are calling him NOW.Speedofsand;986087 wrote:The ESPN set in Meyer's house was dismantled yesterday. Urban is going to coach the Buckeyes. Funny for me to think of all the names he has been called by Buckeye fans since '07, and now you love love love him.
Now we'll get two handfuls...Speedofsand;986087 wrote:Before you get excited about recruiting in Florida, realize OSU has always had a handful of starters from the sunshine state.
...and then they'll commit to Ohio StateSpeedofsand;986087 wrote:There are lots of underclassmen at UF who will tell their young friends how they were flat out lied to by Urban Meyer. They tweeted as much last night. Matt Elam was not even one of them.
FIFYSpeedofsand;986087 wrote:He better focus on recruiting up north. I'm just plain bitter that Meyer is taking a coaching job a year after quitting for health & family reasons. I'm glad its OSU, but I really think he will be gone before long without any BCS rings.
Dry those tears.Speedofsand;986087 wrote:The ESPN set in Meyer's house was dismantled yesterday. Urban is going to coach the Buckeyes. Funny for me to think of all the names he has been called by Buckeye fans since '07, and now you love love love him.
Before you get excited about recruiting in Florida, realize OSU has always had a handful of starters from the sunshine state. There are lots of underclassmen at UF who will tell their young friends how they were flat out lied to by Urban Meyer. They tweeted as much last night. Matt Elam was not even one of them. He better focus on recruiting up north. I'm just plain disappointed that Meyer is taking a coaching job a year after quitting for health & family reasons. I'm glad its OSU, but I really think he will be gone before long without any BCS rings.
Meyer knows it will be easier to get to the BCS Title game at Ohio State than it was at Florida.Speedofsand;986087 wrote: I'm just plain disappointed that Meyer is taking a coaching job a year after quitting for health & family reasons. I'm glad its OSU, but I really think he will be gone before long without any BCS rings.
Why would you think I'm bitter? I love OSU, its the asshole fans that nobody likes.ytownfootball;986323 wrote:Yeah, and they're all pretty much the same ones the majority of Florida fans are calling him NOW.
True, but I'm not one of them. Aren't Buckeye fans pissed because of this giant distraction during Beat Michiganagain week? I imagine its the same as Gator fans mad at rumors of Marotti & Durkin bolting during F$U week.
Now we'll get two handfuls...
We have plenty of solid players to go around down here...
...and then they'll commit to Ohio State
not the ones from Dwyer or S.T.A.
FIFY
You hadn't figured that out?? I didn't have to listen to Herbie to understand what's going on here.killer_ewok;985815 wrote:I haven't read thru all of the Meyer threads so not sure if it's been posted but Herbie was on Mike & Mike yesterday morning and when asked about Urban's offense he replied,"If it was successful in the SEC....it will be like going up against the scout team in the Big 10."
Just found that comment interesting. Either Kirk thinks that highly of the SEC, that low of the B1G, or a little of both.
How many hours do assistant coaches work? What do assistant coaches make? How cushy are their jobs?jhay78;985983 wrote:Or he wants to be a part or Urban's staff . . .
Big Gain;986335 wrote:Meyer knows it will be easier to get to the BCS Title game at Ohio State than it was at Florida.
Big Gain;986342 wrote:You hadn't figured that out?? I didn't have to listen to Herbie to understand what's going on here.
Much less pressure in the Big Ten for Meyer. Easier to get to the BCS Title game at Ohio State. If Tressel won 7 Big Ten Titles in a row and made it to 3 BCS Title Games with his offense, coordinator and players, what do you suppose Meyer will do?
I can only assume that by "perks" you mean Erin Andrews.Big Gain;986349 wrote:How many hours do assistant coaches work? What do assistant coaches make? How cushy are their jobs?
Herbie works far fewer hours for more money and the perks aren't close.
If herbie wanted to be a coach he would have been coaching LONG before now.
Not to mention Herbie himself was a horrid QB and had terrible mechanicsjordo212000;986490 wrote:Herbie just moved away from Ohio because he said Buckeye fans were "too crazy."
Now some of you think he would move back and insert himself into a situation where he is going to get skewered every time Braxton Miller uses poor mechanics?
No way is he an assistant coach at Ohio State next year.
smfhLJ;986492 wrote:Not to mention Herbie himself was a horrid QB and had terrible mechanics
Again, being a great player =/= being a great coach. Joe Daniels never played quarterback in his life, yet he was Dan Marino's QB coach in college, he coach Troy Smith to a Heisman Trophy, and was QB coach for three different NFL teams. Think about the greatest golf coaches in the world (Butch Harmon, Hank Haney, David Ledbetter), none of these guys were champion golfers, but they understand the mechanics of the golf swing and how to teach it. Some people don't necessarily have the physical ability to be great, but that doesn't mean that they don't understand what to do and have the ability to teach it, just like some people have the ability to play, but can't necessarily coach. Besides, it is possible that Herbie has learned a thing or two in the 20 years since he played the game.LJ;986492 wrote:Not to mention Herbie himself was a horrid QB and had terrible mechanics
Uhh..... Herbie even admits himself that he was a bad throwing QB and that he had terrible mechanics. He constantly threw ducks. Not sure what you are shaking your head at. Not to mention he threw 2:1 INT to TD and averaged 73 yards per game passing AND only rushed for a total of 140 yards. Has was not a good QB.vball10set;986508 wrote:smfh
Not everyone, krambman, just those who know little about the nuances of the gamekrambman;986514 wrote:Again, being a great player =/= being a great coach. Joe Daniels never played quarterback in his life, yet he was Dan Marino's QB coach in college, he coach Troy Smith to a Heisman Trophy, and was QB coach for three different NFL teams. Think about the greatest golf coaches in the world (Butch Harmon, Hank Haney, David Ledbetter), none of these guys were champion golfers, but they understand the mechanics of the golf swing and how to teach it. Some people don't necessarily have the physical ability to be great, but that doesn't mean that they don't understand what to do and have the ability to teach it, just like some people have the ability to play, but can't necessarily coach. Besides, it is possible that Herbie has learned a thing or two in the 20 years since he played the game.
Now, I don't think Herbie is going to come and coach at OSU, nor do I want him to, but I still don't understand why everyone thinks you have to have been a great player in order to be able to be a great coach.
The physical abilities isn't the problem. He was a terrible decision maker and had bad mechanics. Typically the guys who weren't very good players who go on to coach had a very good understanding of their position, but just physically weren't there. I don't think he would be a good QB coach. I believe he COULD coach, just not a QB position coach. He would probably be a decent play caller actually.krambman;986514 wrote:Again, being a great player =/= being a great coach. Joe Daniels never played quarterback in his life, yet he was Dan Marino's QB coach in college, he coach Troy Smith to a Heisman Trophy, and was QB coach for three different NFL teams. Think about the greatest golf coaches in the world (Butch Harmon, Hank Haney, David Ledbetter), none of these guys were champion golfers, but they understand the mechanics of the golf swing and how to teach it. Some people don't necessarily have the physical ability to be great, but that doesn't mean that they don't understand what to do and have the ability to teach it, just like some people have the ability to play, but can't necessarily coach. Besides, it is possible that Herbie has learned a thing or two in the 20 years since he played the game.
That has NOTHING to do with ability to coach. SMHLJ;986492 wrote:Not to mention Herbie himself was a horrid QB and had terrible mechanics
Except you know, the ability to understand the position, the ability the understand the mechanics, then the ability to pass that knowledge to others. Now, it's known that he lacked the first 2, the 3rd is the unknown (but he doesn't have much of that to pass on)lhslep134;986520 wrote:That has NOTHING to do with ability to coach. SMH
Key two words. Ask his wife why they really moved.jordo212000;986490 wrote:Herbie just moved away from Ohio because he said Buckeye fans were "too crazy."
Now some of you think he would move back and insert himself into a situation where he is going to get skewered every time Braxton Miller uses poor mechanics?
No way is he an assistant coach at Ohio State next year.
LJ;986521 wrote:Except you know, the ability to understand the position, the ability the understand the mechanics, then the ability to pass that knowledge to others. Now, it's known that he lacked the first 2, the 3rd is the unknown (but he doesn't have much of that to pass on)
The fan base, the money generated by the program, the expectations, the long term successs, the willingness to be the best is as close as you can get.Tobias Fünke;986307 wrote:There is no "New York Yankees of college football."