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Series62

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Sep 2, 2012 10:16 PM
Riderpower;1260455 wrote:...Good example, 4th & 4 on our own 35 yard line 7.32 left in 4th quarter and we are down 9 points and Kyle drops back and throws a 30 yard bomb to BJ...Coach D. would have more than likely punted it and let our defense try to make some plays if he was doing the play calling, but that call came from the box and as it turned out it was a good but very gutsy play call.

People such as yourself get on here and talk down our Coach and throw our kids under the bus. Stop being a coward hiding behind your screen name, come on out to practice 3pm to 6.30ish Mon. thru Thur. and lets hear you say those things in public as you have said on here, I assure you no wood shed would be needed but I could recommend a good dentist after we help you to your feet...
Whether or not the head coach is calling the plays, does he not have the authority to dictate the game plan and change the regimen of plays being called, recognizing what is and isn't working. Can he not call the booth and make adjustments.

A few plays after that 4th and 4, there was another "gutsy" 4th down play that didn't work. There was enough time remaining to continually run the ball swapping in and out #24 and #21 as Triway could not stop them!

rtr24 said, "...there is more than just the head coach on the field, but yet, it is only the head coach's fault...", when there is a victory, which coach receives most of the accolades and has the team ready, The head coach!

Do you really have the time to hang out at practice every day and are you allowed on the field to be a part all the conversations and game plan?
Is "riderpower" your real name?


If the coaches or team beat up someone for voicing his opinion, is that a reflection of "leadership"? And then...quite possibly, new coaches are going to be needed.
Sep 2, 2012 10:16pm
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Sep 2, 2012 11:05 PM
Riderpower;1260455 wrote:Again another "Ignorant" remark but after reading your past post it seems that ignorance is your forte.

The Coach is NOT calling the plays this year. Yes he did call the games last year but NOT this year.The plays are being called from the box and Coach D. relays info to QB...This was announced by the Coach himself before the season started during the yearly Rider picnic....

Good example, 4th & 4 on our own 35 yard line 7.32 left in 4th quarter and we are down 9 points and Kyle drops back and throws a 30 yard bomb to BJ...Coach D. would have more than likely punted it and let our defense try to make some plays if he was doing the play calling, but that call came from the box and as it turned out it was a good but very gutsy play call.

People such as yourself get on here and talk down our Coach and throw our kids under the bus. Stop being a coward hiding behind your screen name, come on out to practice 3pm to 6.30ish Mon. thru Thur. and lets hear you say those things in public as you have said on here, I assure you no wood shed would be needed but I could recommend a good dentist after we help you to your feet.



Oh my this is getting more laughable by the minute. So let me get this straight: Someone else calls the plays in which they tell Coach D what that play is and he sends it in with whatever player goes in? So he can't change the play? He can't recognize the fact that we were running the ball and it was working? At least 100 people in the stands were yelling "Run the ball" every play. Are we the only ones who saw that? If you are gonna come at us with an argument on behalf of Davault at least make sure it is something that makes him look worthy of the position. That certainly is not a good argument. So far I have for arguments that the coach cannot play in the game and he doesnt call the plays. I have heard the receivers drop passes? Ummmm all the more reason to keep the damn ball on the ground. I can figure all this out and Guess what? I NEVER PLAYED HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL!!!!!!!!
Sep 2, 2012 11:05pm
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Sep 2, 2012 11:24 PM
Series62, I'm not disagreeing about the play calling , yes it sucked, yes we needed to run the ball more ect. ect. all I agree with., but Sir what I don't agree with is someone continually downgrading our kids and placing blame on our Coach "throwing them under the bus so to speak".

I spoke out because those people whom are being slammed happen to be friends of mine "Rider Family". I done the same thing for your Son during JV games, spoke out voiced my opinion in respect to Rider Family nothing more nothing less. Now before you take my post literally concerning the wood shed, maybe you should read back a bit,but then again never mind you wouldn't get it any how,but I can tell you that if it was my Son they were talking about I wouldn't be on here talking about it I don't think our new Sheriff has WiFi for prisoners.
Sep 2, 2012 11:24pm
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Sep 2, 2012 11:34 PM
I agree guys lets not call out any kids on here. I joke around most of the times but if it were my son that anyone was talking about i would be ready to rip some heads off too. Lets all agree on this: Work hard this week, learn from the mistakes and go to Copley and take care of business! Go Riders!
Sep 2, 2012 11:34pm
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Sep 3, 2012 8:54 AM
Riderpower;1260493 wrote:Series62, I'm not disagreeing about the play calling , yes it sucked, yes we needed to run the ball more ect. ect. all I agree with., but Sir what I don't agree with is someone continually downgrading our kids and placing blame on our Coach "throwing them under the bus so to speak".

I spoke out because those people whom are being slammed happen to be friends of mine "Rider Family". I done the same thing for your Son during JV games, spoke out voiced my opinion in respect to Rider Family nothing more nothing less. Now before you take my post literally concerning the wood shed, maybe you should read back a bit,but then again never mind you wouldn't get it any how,but I can tell you that if it was my Son they were talking about I wouldn't be on here talking about it I don't think our new Sheriff has WiFi for prisoners.
Verily riderpower, if the players/coaches were downgraded, that's how they performed. If the coach is your friend, then as a friend you need to tell him "honestly" how "he" allowed that game to transpire.

As a father, I would work to encourage and teach my son to perform better, he's either going to be a very good, good, bad or poor player.

Attempting to adjust the opinion of others by force could result in either your own hospitalization or incarceration. Do you really need either?
Sep 3, 2012 8:54am
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Series62

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Sep 3, 2012 8:56 AM
Red Rider Nation;1260495 wrote:I agree guys lets not call out any kids on here. I am a smartass most of the times but if it were my son that anyone was talking about i would be ready to rip some heads off too. Lets all agree on this: Work hard this week, learn from the mistakes and go to Copley and take care of business! Go Riders!
Use of there names and/or numbers here is no different then in the newspaper and media.
Sep 3, 2012 8:56am
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Sep 3, 2012 9:38 AM
Newspaper writers use their real names & are accountable for what they write. Much different than here. They publish their phone number & an email address for feedback.

Anonymity & zero accountability on this site make it very easy for someone to say whatever they want.

I've never seen a personal attack on a HS athlete in a newspaper.
Sep 3, 2012 9:38am
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Sep 3, 2012 10:09 AM
Riderpower;1260455 wrote:Again another "Ignorant" remark but after reading your past post it seems that ignorance is your forte.

The Coach is NOT calling the plays this year. Yes he dijujud call the games last year but NOT this year.The plays are being called from the box and Coach D. relays info to QB...This was announced by the Coach himself before the season started during the yearly Rider picnic....

Good example, 4th & 4 on our own 35 yard line 7.32 left in 4th quarter and we are down 9 points and Kyle drops back and throws a 30 yard bomb to BJ...Coach D. would have more than likely punted it and let our defense try to make some plays if he was doing the play calling, but that call came from the box and as it turned out it was a good but very gutsy play call.

People such as yourself get on here and talk down our Coach and throw our kids under the bus. Stop being a coward hiding behind your screen name, come on out to practice 3pm to 6.30ish Mon. thru Thur. and lets hear you say those things in public as you have said on here, I assure you no wood shed would be needed but I could recommend a good dentist after we help you to your feet.


Wow a tough guy. I'm not going to say the following to try and intimidate anyone. I do not play the threat game I am a grown man all six foot four two hundred and sixty pounds of me.I spent five years in the old Mansfield state prison. I have worked as a bouncer and I can rep 225 for 27 reps on the bench. I am no kid you want to threaten me I will find you and give you the opportunity to give me new dental work. There will be no we just ME. you threatened the wrong guy you piece of sh##.
Sep 3, 2012 10:09am
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GoChiefs

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Sep 3, 2012 11:11 AM
Let's cool it down a bit fellas. Cut out the personal attacks, swearing, and the threats.
Sep 3, 2012 11:11am
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Sep 3, 2012 12:57 PM
Here's a thought...maybe, just maybe Triway was more motivated to win that particular night. They travel to Orrville, picked by virtually everyone to lose on the night we open a field that they can only dream about in the shadows of 3 brand new schools. They struggle to pass levies at their school. Maybe they capitalized on the underdog role to dig a little deeper, play a little harder and pick up their teammates. Jealousy can be a great motivator and luxury can sap the competitive drive. I always prefer to be the under dog with scrappy players. Heck, at the heart of it, isn't that REALLY what RTR is about? Didn't we always relish beating the storied programs with all of the bling?

Orrville was always the town built on heavy industry with gritty kids from blue collar families whose only way out was to fight their way out. A lot has changed, we need to recapture that chip on our shoulder mentality and that is going to be no small task.

Here's my quote for this week, a week where everyone is worried about Copley

A man can fail many times, but he doesn't become a failure until he blames someone else. -John Burroughs
Sep 3, 2012 12:57pm
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Sep 3, 2012 3:12 PM
Red Rider;1260646 wrote: Orrville was always the town built on heavy industry with gritty kids from blue collar families whose only way out was to fight their way out. A lot has changed, we need to recapture that chip on our shoulder mentality and that is going to be no small task.

Here's my quote for this week, a week where everyone is worried about Copley

A man can fail many times, but he doesn't become a failure until he blames someone else. -John Burroughs
That's an interesting thought & even better quote.

Part of RTR is that you have kids whose older brothers, fathers, uncles & grandfathers played..they know how Orrville football is played. They grew up watching their heroes play and now they are the ones who are looked up to. Kids like mine now idolize the Red Riders....and they want to grow up to be a Red Rider someday. That's how a tradition is born & grows.

But I will acknowledge your statement...we thrived on being disrespected. Exhibit A - those Genoa playoff games. We're at our best when we're doubted.

We won't get much respect this week going into Copley....but maybe that's a good thing.
Sep 3, 2012 3:12pm
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Sep 3, 2012 3:23 PM
Red Rider;1260646 wrote:Here's a thought...maybe, just maybe Triway was more motivated to win that particular night. They travel to Orrville, picked by virtually everyone to lose on the night we open a field that they can only dream about in the shadows of 3 brand new schools. They struggle to pass levies at their school. Maybe they capitalized on the underdog role to dig a little deeper, play a little harder and pick up their teammates. Jealousy can be a great motivator and luxury can sap the competitive drive. I always prefer to be the under dog with scrappy players. Heck, at the heart of it, isn't that REALLY what RTR is about? Didn't we always relish beating the storied programs with all of the bling?

Orrville was always the town built on heavy industry with gritty kids from blue collar families whose only way out was to fight their way out. A lot has changed, we need to recapture that chip on our shoulder mentality and that is going to be no small task.

Here's my quote for this week, a week where everyone is worried about Copley

A man can fail many times, but he doesn't become a failure until he blames someone else. -John Burroughs
What a bucket of Crap, "fight there way out " are you kidding me. It's Orrville not inner city Chicago. The mean streets of Orrville lmao.
Sep 3, 2012 3:23pm
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Sep 3, 2012 3:30 PM
what storied programs has Orrville beaten. I missed a few games apparently. You should be a writer because that had me on the edge of my seat.
Sep 3, 2012 3:30pm
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Sep 3, 2012 4:44 PM
Troll King;1260712 wrote:what storied programs has Orrville beaten. I missed a few games apparently. You should be a writer because that had me on the edge of my seat.
If I can remember correctly, Genoa.
Sep 3, 2012 4:44pm
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Sep 3, 2012 4:52 PM
Every year OC becomes like this, and probably for every town and every football program there are people, grown men, that bash the high school teenagers. Must give them great feeling inside, one that I probably don't understand nor will I ever. That's not what I do. Ya, I may bash in the own comfort of my home, but why must I post it online for the players to see. It isn't enough for you that they already lost that people must post such negativity about how bad they sucked, who should be playing and who shouldn't, who should be coaching, who shouldn't?

I can almost be 100% positive that if this game was turned around to where Orrville won, 1/2 this negative BS would not be on here. If those passes the QB made would have been completed, he would not be such a horrible QB after all and the coach wouldn't be told that he needs to be fired, he would be a great guy, he called great plays, blah blah blah. When Orrville does win, credit is given to coach's and all the players, not just singling out, go read the papers. < Last time I checked.

Not the case, Orrville lost. So let us continue to bash the teenagers because as teenagers no one should EVER make mistakes! That's crazy! Crazy high school kids for losing a game and making mistakes.
Sep 3, 2012 4:52pm
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Sep 3, 2012 5:12 PM
rtr24;1260733 wrote: ...but why must I post it online for the players to see. It isn't enough for you that they already lost that people must post such negativity about how bad they sucked.....
It's done because some people think that they have been screwed in life somewhere along the way and it makes them feel good to appear to be a know-it-all big shot who can ruffle feathers on "Teh Internetz".
Sep 3, 2012 5:12pm
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Sep 3, 2012 7:30 PM
Red Rider;1260646 wrote:Here's a thought...maybe, just maybe Triway was more motivated to win that particular night. They travel to Orrville, picked by virtually everyone to lose on the night we open a field that they can only dream about in the shadows of 3 brand new schools. They struggle to pass levies at their school. Maybe they capitalized on the underdog role to dig a little deeper, play a little harder and pick up their teammates.
Or maybe Triway is the better team. Just a thought. All these excuses... it looked to me like Triway was the better team.
Sep 3, 2012 7:30pm
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Sep 3, 2012 7:42 PM
rtr24;1260733 wrote:Every year OC becomes like this, and probably for every town and every football program there are people, grown men, that bash the high school teenagers. Must give them great feeling inside, one that I probably don't understand nor will I ever. That's not what I do. Ya, I may bash in the own comfort of my home, but why must I post it online for the players to see. It isn't enough for you that they already lost that people must post such negativity about how bad they sucked, who should be playing and who shouldn't, who should be coaching, who shouldn't?

I can almost be 100% positive that if this game was turned around to where Orrville won, 1/2 this negative BS would not be on here. If those passes the QB made would have been completed, he would not be such a horrible QB after all and the coach wouldn't be told that he needs to be fired, he would be a great guy, he called great plays, blah blah blah. When Orrville does win, credit is given to coach's and all the players, not just singling out, go read the papers. < Last time I checked.

Not the case, Orrville lost. So let us continue to bash the teenagers because as teenagers no one should EVER make mistakes! That's crazy! Crazy high school kids for losing a game and making mistakes.


Isnt this kind of stating the obvious? Of course if the passes were completed and Orrville won the game sure half of this would not be posted. The fact of the matter is it didnt work out that way and people on here have their OPINIONS. You have yours, we have ours and that is all this is. Some of you are making a mountain out of a mole hill. I really dont see people on here bashing the teenagers I see them nmore bashing the coaches who are adults. As the old saying goes when the team is winning the coach gets no credit but when they lose he takes all the blame. He had to know this when he signed up to be the head coach at a storied program. Hopefully he respects the fact that he has passionate fans and people who care. Maybe not though according to some of you guys. Again they should put it behind them and focus on Copley. If the kids are still on here looking at what people are saying that is a problem for me. Why? Focus on the task at hand and that is a good Copley team in 4 days!
Sep 3, 2012 7:42pm
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Sep 3, 2012 7:57 PM
Red Rider Nation;1260797 wrote:Isnt this kind of stating the obvious? Of course if the passes were completed and Orrville won the game sure half of this would not be posted. The fact of the matter is it didnt work out that way and people on here have their OPINIONS. You have yours, we have ours and that is all this is. Some of you are making a mountain out of a mole hill. I really dont see people on here bashing the teenagers I see them nmore bashing the coaches who are adults. As the old saying goes when the team is winning the coach gets no credit but when they lose he takes all the blame. He had to know this when he signed up to be the head coach at a storied program. Hopefully he respects the fact that he has passionate fans and people who care. Maybe not though according to some of you guys. Again they should put it behind them and focus on Copley. If the kids are still on here looking at what people are saying that is a problem for me. Why? Focus on the task at hand and that is a good Copley team in 4 days!

I agree, As a Wooster fan who went through this type of negativity last year, dont let this stuff get out of hand it is only one loss. Be careful what is said on here because the kids do look at this site and they are only 15 to 18 year old boys who take things very personal. As for your coach cut the guy some slack playoffs almost every year and he gets bashed for losing to the state champ, give him a chance to bring this young team along, you are right mountain out of mole hill only one game out of 10 and its all about the kids lets not forget this. Good luck against copely.
Sep 3, 2012 7:57pm
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Sep 3, 2012 8:02 PM
We are all supposed to be adults. Unfortunately, kids are reading these threads. Why don't you "adults" that HAVE been calling out players by name, number or position just knock it OFF! These kids are 16-17 years old. They all are someone's son, brother, grandson and teammate. As for the coaches, they too are someone's son, father, husband or friend. The Riders lost a game. It is over and done. It is time to start supporting our team. Get rid of the negativity and be a true fan not a critic.
Sep 3, 2012 8:02pm
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Sep 3, 2012 8:22 PM
I think a lot of us are forgetting that arguing over a high school football game and criticizing 15-17 year old kids really makes us look childish ourselves. I have absolutely no problem with talking about the game, what happened, what we should've/could've done differently...but it won't change the fact that Triway was the better team last Friday night and beat us.

I have said this already last week, this team has a lot of learning to do because so many young guys are playing, a lot of them this was their 2nd varsity game they've played in, and I would say it was pretty stressful knowing you were opening up the brand new stadium in front of a huge crowd. Of course 15/16 year olds are going to make mistakes, and yes coaches will make mistakes as well....We are human! Coach Davault an his staff have done nothing but win and continue the red rider tradition, and I know they want nothing more than to help these kids not only win on the field, but in life.

Reading some of these comments is embarassing and really makes Orrville look bad, and makes me realize why so many people can't stand orrville and the people from orrville. We have been blessed with new schools, new field, and an athletic program that has a lot of success in many sports, but yet we still find ways to tear down and complain.


Go Riders!!
Sep 3, 2012 8:22pm
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Sep 3, 2012 8:55 PM
Well said OQB & others. Sad that a few can impugn an entire fanbase. The words of a few don't speak for the majority. Back to work Riders. Last year for the Copley series as they're dropping us after this year. Let's show them one more time...
Sep 3, 2012 8:55pm
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Sep 3, 2012 9:01 PM
Well said OQB! Orrville is a great community to live in. Let's give these young kids a chance to experience Rider Sports with our support.
Sep 3, 2012 9:01pm
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Sep 3, 2012 9:27 PM
rtr24;1260731 wrote:If I can remember correctly, Genoa.
Genoa ? Are you serious what in the heck have they ever done. How many wins, state playoff appearances, state titles do they have. You must be a kid to mention that school and storied in the same sentence. Storied programs are schools like massillon, stubenville, St. Iggy. Cardnal Mooney, Ironton , cincinnati Moellor. Those are storied programs, Genoa that's funny.
Sep 3, 2012 9:27pm
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Sep 4, 2012 7:44 AM
Well I will eat my crow. I never thought Triway had a chance. However, that is why they play the games. Triway came to play and let Orrville know early that they were there to win. Orrville let Triway know early that they were not focuses...or were to hyped or I don't know what it was but it was ugly. Get ready for Friday Riders because a lot is on the line now.
Sep 4, 2012 7:44am