hoops23
Posts: 15,696
Nov 9, 2011 10:06pm
On Wednesday, Adobe announced it will no longer be developing Flash, its media-player tool, for mobile devices. More than a few bloggers have noted the news would have been vindication for the late Apple co-founder, who felt betrayed by Adobe more than a decade ago.
In a post on the Adobe blog, company vice-president Danny Winokur said Flash has enabled the Web's richest content for a decade.
"However, HTML5 is now universally supported on major mobile devices, in some cases exclusively," he said, apparently a nod to Apple's iPhone, iPad and iPod. "This makes HTML5 the best solution for creating and deploying content in the browser across mobile platforms."
http://www.cnn.com/2011/11/09/tech/mobile/flash-steve-jobs/index.html?hpt=hp_t2
Steve Jobs does work while being dead.
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gut
Posts: 15,058
Nov 9, 2011 10:49pm
Ha, I was going to say somewhere Steve Jobs is smiling.
Not sure what this means for Android. It will adapt, or the browsers will do something about it. I don't watch a lot of video content on my phone, anyway. That's what tablets, laptops and tv's are for (although tablets would have the same issue as phones).
Not sure what this means for Android. It will adapt, or the browsers will do something about it. I don't watch a lot of video content on my phone, anyway. That's what tablets, laptops and tv's are for (although tablets would have the same issue as phones).
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Steel Valley Football
Posts: 4,548
Nov 10, 2011 9:35am
Does this mean my iPhone and iPad will now read all videos now that used to say I needed flash to view? I just bought Skyfire like three days ago.
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I Wear Pants
Posts: 16,223
Nov 10, 2011 9:48am
No, that doesn't mean that at all SVF.
They are killing MOBILE Flash, not Flash.
And the videos wouldn't just magically switch over to HTML5 or something else because of this. Any Flash video will remain in that format until it's changed. Flash isn't going away for a while.
They are killing MOBILE Flash, not Flash.
And the videos wouldn't just magically switch over to HTML5 or something else because of this. Any Flash video will remain in that format until it's changed. Flash isn't going away for a while.
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MontyBrunswick
Nov 10, 2011 9:49am
hoops23;965660 wrote:Steve Jobs does work while being dead.
No he isn't...it's irrelevant to him. HTML5 is taking over.
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Steel Valley Football
Posts: 4,548
Nov 10, 2011 10:04am
I Wear Pants;966316 wrote:No, that doesn't mean that at all SVF.
They are killing MOBILE Flash, not Flash.
And the videos wouldn't just magically switch over to HTML5 or something else because of this. Any Flash video will remain in that format until it's changed. Flash isn't going away for a while.
Ok thanks for the info. Skyfire let's me watch almost all of them but it's not without its drawbacks.
Scarlet_Buckeye
Posts: 5,264
Nov 10, 2011 10:30am
This speaks volumes to Steve Jobs and Apple, and what they did to revolutionize the mobile industry.
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I Wear Pants
Posts: 16,223
Nov 10, 2011 10:31am
Um, no it doesn't?
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Jawbreaker
Posts: 520
Nov 10, 2011 1:11pm
How so? I think it speaks more to the fact that Adobe saw the writing on the wall when it comes to HTML5. Something that most modern browsers support or will support.Scarlet_Buckeye;966402 wrote:This speaks volumes to Steve Jobs and Apple, and what they did to revolutionize the mobile industry.
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MontyBrunswick
Nov 10, 2011 1:11pm
You can't win against Mactards. Don't even try.I Wear Pants;966405 wrote:Um, no it doesn't?
justincredible
Posts: 32,056
Nov 10, 2011 1:16pm
I never installed flash on my Evo because flash sucks.
I don't care if this helps.
I don't care if this helps.
DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
Nov 10, 2011 1:37pm
it speaks volumes to a dead guy?Scarlet_Buckeye;966402 wrote:This speaks volumes to Steve Jobs and Apple, and what they did to revolutionize the mobile industry.
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MontyBrunswick
Nov 10, 2011 1:51pm
You're just mad that your website doesn't run in Flash.justincredible;966745 wrote:I never installed flash on my Evo because flash sucks.
I don't care if this helps.
Instead, it doesn't run at all most of the time.
Thanks, Cloudfare.
hoops23
Posts: 15,696
Nov 10, 2011 2:43pm
Apple haters will say Steve Jobs had nothing to do with this, when every article that's been written about the story has said otherwise.
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MontyBrunswick
Nov 10, 2011 2:50pm
He didn't. HTML5 has been on the up and up for years and it is better than Flash in every aspect. It's pointless for Adobe to keep developing it.hoops23;966865 wrote:Apple haters will say Steve Jobs had nothing to do with this
But I'm sure you already knew that.
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Jawbreaker
Posts: 520
Nov 10, 2011 3:15pm
Did Steve Jobs create HTML5?hoops23;966865 wrote:Apple haters will say Steve Jobs had nothing to do with this, when every article that's been written about the story has said otherwise.
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I Wear Pants
Posts: 16,223
Nov 10, 2011 5:32pm
If it ran on Flash it wouldn't work any of the time.dlazz;966800 wrote:You're just mad that your website doesn't run in Flash.
Instead, it doesn't run at all most of the time.
Thanks, Cloudfare.
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I Wear Pants
Posts: 16,223
Nov 10, 2011 5:34pm
Jobs did not kill Flash (it isn't dead anyway), Jobs did not invent HTML5, etc.hoops23;966865 wrote:Apple haters will say Steve Jobs had nothing to do with this, when every article that's been written about the story has said otherwise.
All Jobs did was say Flash sucks. Which is largely true but everyone has said that.
And tons of writers attribute fucking everything to Jobs. If it's good they find a way to link it to him. Dude did a ton of stuff but people are starting to get ridiculous.
2kool4skool
Posts: 1,804
Nov 10, 2011 5:36pm
Glad to see Steve Jobs is being given credit for things he had nothing to do with even in death.
hoops23
Posts: 15,696
Nov 11, 2011 2:16am
Not sure if you're being sarcastic, but yes, I knew HTML 5 has been around for quite sometime. Steve Jobs did not invent HTML 5, but once he couldn't get Adobe to agree to change a bit, he decided to advocate HTML 5.dlazz;966869 wrote:He didn't. HTML5 has been on the up and up for years and it is better than Flash in every aspect. It's pointless for Adobe to keep developing it.
But I'm sure you already knew that.
As Jobs said, once Adobe's founder stepped down, Adobe went to hell.
However, Jobs had one of the most powerful and influential voices in America. When he spoke about something, people listened.
He denied Flash on his products. Mobile products that are market leaders. If people don't think that has anything to do with Adobe killing off Mobile flash, then they're crazy.
I would guess had Apple allowed Adobe to develop for iOS, Adobe wouldn't be killing mobile flash right now.
wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Nov 11, 2011 5:53am
hoops23;967489 wrote:Not sure if you're being sarcastic, but yes, I knew HTML 5 has been around for quite sometime. Steve Jobs did not invent HTML 5, but once he couldn't get Adobe to agree to change a bit, he decided to advocate HTML 5.
As Jobs said, once Adobe's founder stepped down, Adobe went to hell.
However, Jobs had one of the most powerful and influential voices in America. When he spoke about something, people listened.
He denied Flash on his products. Mobile products that are market leaders. If people don't think that has anything to do with Adobe killing off Mobile flash, then they're crazy.
I would guess had Apple allowed Adobe to develop for iOS, Adobe wouldn't be killing mobile flash right now.
Lol, I get the whole argument with "apple vs Android" fanboys, boy I worry that you actually wanted to have Steve Jobs' babies. It is quite scary.
hoops23
Posts: 15,696
Nov 11, 2011 6:56am
LOLOLOLOLwes_mantooth;967513 wrote:Lol, I get the whole argument with "apple vs Android" fanboys, boy I worry that you actually wanted to have Steve Jobs' babies. It is quite scary.
Lame as shit
I mention Jobs' 3 times and suddenly I want to partake in homosexual activities with Jobs and perform the impossible feat of having his children. Got it. GTFO.
Apple would not allow flash on iOS devices. Apple backs HTML 5. iOS devices take over market. Adobe announces they will no longer support mobile flash, but will get into HTML 5. As I said, if Apple allowed mobile flash on iOS, Adobe wouldn't be killing off mobile flash now.
Scarlet_Buckeye
Posts: 5,264
Nov 11, 2011 8:43am
Reps for truth.hoops23;967489 wrote:NHe denied Flash on his products. Mobile products that are market leaders. If people don't think that has anything to do with Adobe killing off Mobile flash, then they're crazy.
I would guess had Apple allowed Adobe to develop for iOS, Adobe wouldn't be killing mobile flash right now.
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Jawbreaker
Posts: 520
Nov 11, 2011 8:44am
Apple, Google, & Microsoft have backed the adoption of HTML5. Microsoft is said to be killing off silverlight for the same reasons as Adobe with flash. The fact you can build a html5 web application that works well in all mobile operating systems' browsers as well as a desktop browser has been pushing this movement.hoops23;967521 wrote:LOLOLOLOL
Lame as ****
I mention Jobs' 3 times and suddenly I want to partake in homosexual activities with Jobs and perform the impossible feat of having his children. Got it. GTFO.
Apple would not allow flash on iOS devices. Apple backs HTML 5. iOS devices take over market. Adobe announces they will no longer support mobile flash, but will get into HTML 5. As I said, if Apple allowed mobile flash on iOS, Adobe wouldn't be killing off mobile flash now.
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MontyBrunswick
Nov 11, 2011 10:17am
hoops is oblivious to the point we're trying to make. Steve Jobs had no hand in this.