^ Thanks for the vid. The real answer will come when you see some side by side. It is hard to tell what you are or aren't missing without that. Also I wonder what it looks like when you are running.

tcarrier32;962170 wrote:computer graphics > console graphics.

i've been waiting for this game to come out for a long time, i've had it pre-ordered since Game-Stop would let me. It's really terrible timing though, i'm in my last year at OSU, I could use the studying.

Not 100% true anymore. Years ago yes, but unless you are dropping $1000s of dollars on a PC and the correct cabling to hook it up to a HD TV, the PS3/XB360 games like Elder Scrolls have better graphics than typical PCs on PC monitors.

wes_mantooth;962497 wrote:Looks amazing, but these types of games are not for me. I don't play enough and some of the tedious things you have to do...piss me off.

Most RPGs do have very tedious things, I will say this though, at least with Oblivion, and the previous one (Morrowind?) Bethesda has removed most of the tedious BS things that appear in most RPGs.

jmog;963901 wrote:Not 100% true anymore. Years ago yes, but unless you are dropping $1000s of dollars on a PC and the correct cabling to hook it up to a HD TV, the PS3/XB360 games like Elder Scrolls have better graphics than typical PCs on PC monitors.

i think it is still true and will continue to be true, having played crysis 2 on both pc and xbox their is a noticeable difference. the rig was only 1200. its definitely more expensive, but the graphical capabilities of pc's are still higher than that of any console.

i dont have any problems with consoles, i only own a ps3, just sayin.

Also, somebody mentioned earlier that the PS3 version was a 'port'. That is NOT the case. Each version was developed separately. It is said that the PS3 version is believed to be a bit better graphically than the 360 version.

hoops23;964459 wrote:Also, somebody mentioned earlier that the PS3 version was a 'port'. That is NOT the case. Each version was developed separately. It is said that the PS3 version is believed to be a bit better graphically than the 360 version.

Got a link? Everywhere I have searched says its a port.

tcarrier32;963922 wrote:i think it is still true and will continue to be true, having played crysis 2 on both pc and xbox their is a noticeable difference. the rig was only 1200. its definitely more expensive, but the graphical capabilities of pc's are still higher than that of any console.

i dont have any problems with consoles, i only own a ps3, just sayin.

It depends how much money you have dumped into your machine and what type of output capabilities you have. I mean you could have a top notch machine and if your video card is just good, outputting that to a 60+" flat screen TV and hoping to do better than the 1080p that comes from the PS3 just won't happen.

Now, if one had dumped upwards of $2000 on a video gaming PC, then I agree with you 100%.

I'm stoked. My goal is to do a load of laundry this weekend and that's about it

jmog;963901 wrote:Not 100% true anymore. Years ago yes, but unless you are dropping $1000s of dollars on a PC and the correct cabling to hook it up to a HD TV, the PS3/XB360 games like Elder Scrolls have better graphics than typical PCs on PC monitors.

You're a fucking moron. Assuming you have a modestly capable rig a game will look much better on PC if only because of higher resolution textures. And any monitor these days is at least 1080p and with the typically smaller size of monitors vs TVs they have much greater pixel density so things look nicer. Plus there are monitors that have higher resolutions and multi-monitor set ups are not uncommon.

Just picked it up at Wally world on my way home.

Dude at the counter told me I came at the right time, as the line was about an hour long.

I almost got unlucky though, as I snagged 1 of the last remaining PS3 copies.

hoops23;967477 wrote:Just picked it up at Wally world on my way home.

Dude at the counter told me I came at the right time, as the line was about an hour long.

I almost got unlucky though, as I snagged 1 of the last remaining PS3 copies.

Read that PS3 graphics were good... any pop up or drawing issues? Also heard the PS3 menus were a little laggy. Post full review plz! and Plz be honest.

http://www.product-reviews.net/2011/11/11/skyrim-ps3-vs-xbox-360-shock-as-ps3-wins-in-video-comparison/



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I Wear Pants;967346 wrote:You're a ****ing moron. Assuming you have a modestly capable rig a game will look much better on PC if only because of higher resolution textures. And any monitor these days is at least 1080p and with the typically smaller size of monitors vs TVs they have much greater pixel density so things look nicer. Plus there are monitors that have higher resolutions and multi-monitor set ups are not uncommon.

Did you actually read what I said or just jump to the ad hominem attack?

I said, unless you want to spend a lot more money (aka about 6x as much as the XBox/PS3) then the graphics aren't as good.

Yes, a "modest" gaming PC spending 1200-1500 will outdo any console, but most gamers like the idea of the huge flat scrren TVs to play their games so then you have to have a high end video card/processor to output adequately to a large screen 1080p.

Gaming consoles will never catch up to the good gaming PCs, but since most people do not have a good gaming PC (they have the $1000 deck of cards and email checker) the game will have better graphics on the consoles than a typical PC that most people currently have.

So ... how's the game?

OneBuckeye;967556 wrote:http://www.product-reviews.net/2011/11/11/skyrim-ps3-vs-xbox-360-shock-as-ps3-wins-in-video-comparison/



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Even as an XBox guy, the PS3 version looks better graphically.

jmog;967622 wrote:Did you actually read what I said or just jump to the ad hominem attack?

I said, unless you want to spend a lot more money (aka about 6x as much as the XBox/PS3) then the graphics aren't as good.

Yes, a "modest" gaming PC spending 1200-1500 will outdo any console, but most gamers like the idea of the huge flat scrren TVs to play their games so then you have to have a high end video card/processor to output adequately to a large screen 1080p.

Gaming consoles will never catch up to the good gaming PCs, but since most people do not have a good gaming PC (they have the $1000 deck of cards and email checker) the game will have better graphics on the consoles than a typical PC that most people currently have.

False. A PC for under $700 will easily out do the consoles.

OneBuckeye;967552 wrote:Read that PS3 graphics were good... any pop up or drawing issues? Also heard the PS3 menus were a little laggy. Post full review plz! and Plz be honest.

I played for about 2 hours.

Graphics are very good. The environment/world is so detailed and the draw distance is amazing.

I encountered a short freeze of gameplay once when the game went to autosave.

I've honestly not encountered any graphical issues, though I'm sure I will with more playtime. Texture pop-in, and graphical glitches are bound to happen in a game this size.

The menus are simple, but take a second to get used to. I experienced a bit of menu lag the first time I opened it up, but after that it worked smoothly.

The game overall is very good though. The way you can mold your character as you play is an amazing idea. When you create your character, you basically just pick a race, choose his/her look and name them. That's it. No more thinking about which skill set/class you want to play as at the beginning of the game.

I will say the 3rd person view has improved, but it still doesn't look all that great. Character still has moments where the movements are "stiff." This is definitely a game where 1st-person is the way to play.

Melee feels off at times as well. I've swung at enemies and my weapon glides right through them, but they take no damage. Not a huge issue. The "vats" type finishing moves are a nice touch though. I'm using a warhammer right now as my main weapon and the sequence where I take a short jump and smash in an enemies head is pretty sweet.

As far as 360 vs PS3...

I've read that the 360 version has darker shadowing, and the PS3 version has superior textures.

The differences are likely small, and it's a fantastic game no matter which system it's bought for. I'm not a person who cares about manuals/game maps, but the map that comes in the case has an "old-style" feeling. Pretty cool touch.

Anyway, this post was all over the place, but I'm just trying to touch on a few different things as I thought about them.

The PS3 version has nicer textures but the 360 version probably has slightly better lighting/AA. That's usually the case between the two as they're good at different things. Game looks great on both systems.

I Wear Pants;968292 wrote:The PS3 version has nicer textures but the 360 version probably has slightly better lighting/AA. That's usually the case between the two as they're good at different things. Game looks great on both systems.

Exactly. It's a great game, that's all that truly matters.

I've never played Oblivion or anything but I think I'm gonna pick this one up this week after my blocks are done.

Bethesda has said they're releasing a patch to fix the 360 texture issue. Apparently the problem is due to the game being installed on the hard drive and not scaling the textures correctly from far distances (IE as you get closer the higher res textures should load but they don't).

gorocks99;967912 wrote:So ... how's the game?

awesome.

2 hours in and loving it.

Which class have you guys chosen?

I started with Nord, or whatever it's called.

LOL. Supposedly the butterfly wings give you health as well...

I walked across a stream last night and was able to catch some Salmon. Pretty sweet.