Cleveland Browns @ Oakland Raiders: Week 6

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BR1986FB
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Oct 10, 2011 5:27am
Well...let's get this one started.

No faith in the guys getting it done this week. McFadden should run wild.

Thoughts?
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Oct 10, 2011 6:55am
I thought before the season this would most likely be a loss, and I'm sticking to that. MCfadden is going to get 300 yards
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Oct 10, 2011 7:41am
Hopefully Shurmur gets his brain out of his ass and realizes the Raiders have the 24th ranked run defense, giving up 122/ypg, and doesn't put Hillis in cold storage. That's the Browns only chance to hang in this, imo.
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Oct 10, 2011 8:39am
^^^^ Not so fast. Houston's Arian Foster rushed for 68 yds on 22 carries yesterday and over half of that total came on his first run of the day. The Raiders' D can be sieve-like, but they also have a mountain of talent. Teams that run well on them also have a passing game. Think Hillis will be over his strep in time for kickoff?
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Oct 10, 2011 9:07am
BGFalcons82;928654 wrote:^^^^ Not so fast. Houston's Arian Foster rushed for 68 yds on 22 carries yesterday and over half of that total came on his first run of the day. The Raiders' D can be sieve-like, but they also have a mountain of talent. Teams that run well on them also have a passing game. Think Hillis will be over his strep in time for kickoff?
Don't care about the Raiders "talent." They CAN be run on...history has proven it.
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Oct 10, 2011 9:11am
Raiders in a close one.
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Oct 10, 2011 9:24am
I agree they need to run the ball first, and Oakland can be run on. But hopefully they used the week off to get better in their pass protection, the WRs getting separation, and Colt getting the ball out quicker. Because your not gonna win many games throwing 4 and 5 yard passes.
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Oct 10, 2011 9:46am
royal_k;928689 wrote:I agree they need to run the ball first, and Oakland can be run on. But hopefully they used the week off to get better in their pass protection, the WRs getting separation, and Colt getting the ball out quicker. Because your not gonna win many games throwing 4 and 5 yard passes.
I think that "WR's getting separation" ship has done sailed. They are who we thought they were and "they" (WR's) suck.
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Oct 10, 2011 9:58am
I have the browns lossing this one. Run DMC & Michael Bush punishing the Browns on the ground. With Haden out I expect Heyward Bey or Moore to embarrass us for a long one as well. Raiders by 12.
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Oct 10, 2011 11:56am
If Haden and Mack are both out, this won't be close. The OL is horrid enough, let alone if you take out the guy who calls the offensive line plays. And Haden? Well, let's just say we've got nobody even close to his level who can stop a top receiver.
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Oct 10, 2011 11:56am
Raiders win but I'm not sure by how much.
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Oct 10, 2011 12:02pm
BR1986FB;928707 wrote:I think that "WR's getting separation" ship has done sailed. They are who we thought they were and "they" (WR's) suck.
Watching other league games yesterday made me depressed because of how horrible our WR's are....I don't think any of our so called WR's would see the field on another NFL team...MoMass might rotate and maybe Little but those are the only two.

If Haden and Mack are out we lose....simple as that.

Message to Shurmur: You are allowed to use everyone that is in a uniform on Sunday...don't be affraid to sub guys in and out. If Hillis starts like he did against the Titans leave him in there!!! Please get Evan Moore more touches, you paid him...now play him! One last thing, atleast attempt to throw the ball over 10 yards.

We will see how good our front 7 is if we can stop the running attack.
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Oct 10, 2011 12:03pm
this one will not be fun
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Oct 10, 2011 12:30pm
Normally a bye week is a great advantage, but it won't be for the Browns.
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Oct 10, 2011 12:31pm
like_that;928875 wrote:Normally a bye week is a great advantage, but it won't be for the Browns.
Yep. Expect them to come out flat, with a crapton of penalties like Shurmur made no adjustments whatsoever.
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Oct 10, 2011 12:35pm
At least the Falcons aren't doing too well so far this season. The Browns have that going for them at least.
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Oct 10, 2011 12:40pm
ESPN just showed the raiders post game locker room celebration. Very emotional with the passing of Al Davis. Just another reason why the Browns are not going to win. The Raiders are going to carry that emotion and make it to the playoffs. Mark it down. First home game after Davis passed away, just not going to happen for the Browns.
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Oct 10, 2011 12:44pm
like_that;928883 wrote:ESPN just showed the raiders post game locker room celebration. Very emotional with the passing of Al Davis. Just another reason why the Browns are not going to win. The Raiders are going to carry that emotion and make it to the playoffs. Mark it down. First home game after Davis passed away, just not going to happen for the Browns.
Was thinking the same thing about Oakland being at home this weekend. First the Titans coach dies now this.
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Oct 10, 2011 1:44pm
@MaryKayCabot Mary Kay Cabot
Browns hc Shurmur said Greg little will start at the X receiver spot.



Takes over for Robiskie
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Oct 10, 2011 2:50pm
BR1986FB;928952 wrote:@MaryKayCabot Mary Kay Cabot
Browns hc Shurmur said Greg little will start at the X receiver spot.



Takes over for Robiskie
I think our run game will really suffer with our best blocker no longer in the starting line up.
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Oct 10, 2011 2:52pm
BR1986FB;928952 wrote:@MaryKayCabot Mary Kay Cabot
Browns hc Shurmur said Greg little will start at the X receiver spot.



Takes over for Robiskie
now just get evan moore in there
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Oct 10, 2011 2:55pm
BR1986FB;928952 wrote:@MaryKayCabot Mary Kay Cabot
Browns hc Shurmur said Greg little will start at the X receiver spot.



Takes over for Robiskie
Does that mean Little will dissapear in the offense??
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Oct 10, 2011 2:59pm
dazedconfused;929016 wrote:now just get evan moore in there
Shurmur said that was part of the plan too.
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Oct 10, 2011 3:10pm
BR1986FB;929025 wrote:Shurmur said that was part of the plan too.
I always thought the issue with Moore was that he can't block. Thus he's pretty much only in obv passing downs/redzone. So unless he learns how to block/or Glasshos shores up the RT spot, I'm not sure I see this realistically happening.
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Oct 10, 2011 3:11pm
Commander of Awesome;929037 wrote:I always thought the issue with Moore was that he can't block. Thus he's pretty much only in obv passing downs/redzone. So unless he learns how to block/or Glasshos shores up the RT spot, I'm not sure I see this realistically happening.
Then why give the guy a big contract if he only plays 10-12 plays a game? Makes no sense...Put him in the slot and let him create mismatches for you.