BCS to discuss removing 2 team per conference cap

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Sep 28, 2011 8:55 AM
I only see it benefiting the SEC, for the time being anyways.
Sep 28, 2011 8:55am
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Sep 28, 2011 9:20 AM
It's a dumb rule anyway. Nothing worse than a deserving team being left out because of quotas to fill.
Sep 28, 2011 9:20am
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Sep 28, 2011 10:36 AM
Azubuike24;914051 wrote:It's a dumb rule anyway. Nothing worse than a deserving team being left out because of quotas to fill.
So who gets left out if they do away with the cap? I *think* I prefer to see a max of two teams from each conference if that means some of the smaller conference teams get a shot to knock off one of the big boys.
Sep 28, 2011 10:36am
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Sep 28, 2011 10:55 AM
Pick6;914034 wrote:I only see it benefiting the SEC, for the time being anyways.
Perhaps. I guess the point regarding the B1G was that they have the most years of multiple participants. I know one of those years was Illinois with 3 losses and that was directly attributable to the stupid Rose Bowl "tradition" but I don't remember if that happened any other time.

I think the B1G, in general, travels pretty well. But just based on records, teams that could've benefitted in the fairly recent past are Michigan State (2010), Penn State (2009), and Wisconsin (2006, maybe 2004).

The Big XII might have gotten a third with Missouri (2007) and Texas Tech (2008), as well.
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Sep 28, 2011 11:00 AM
FatHobbit;914153 wrote:So who gets left out if they do away with the cap? I *think* I prefer to see a max of two teams from each conference if that means some of the smaller conference teams get a shot to knock off one of the big boys.
As long as they don't change the non-AQ rules, that won't be the team affected. Last year, for example, that 1-loss Stanford team might have been left out in favor of LSU, who probably would've brought more fans. Really, having AQs is the biggest hindrance because there has never really been a bad at-large pick (except for maybe that Illinois Rose Bowl). Having crappy Big East and ACC champions, however, that is a different story.
Sep 28, 2011 11:00am
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Sep 28, 2011 2:52 PM
The only two teams I can think of that would definitely have benefited from this are 2006 Wisconsin and 2008 Texas Tech. A much better rule than removing the 2-team max is to eliminate auto-bids altogether.
Sep 28, 2011 2:52pm
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Sep 28, 2011 3:04 PM
I could see the SEC getting a 3rd team almost every year really.
Sep 28, 2011 3:04pm
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Sep 28, 2011 3:04 PM
This will just give more B1G teams a chance to win big time bowl games. When you have 6-8 teams per year that deserve a premier bowl game, only having 2 spots available is unacceptable.
Sep 28, 2011 3:04pm
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Sep 28, 2011 4:40 PM
Didn't Michigan State get left out just last year?
Sep 28, 2011 4:40pm
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Sep 28, 2011 4:43 PM
Yes, the problem here isn't that non-AQ's losing spots, it's the continually weak representatives from the Big East and ACC (generally) that have a big effect. The goal should be to have five bowl games that include the 10 best teams in the country, regardless of conference affiliation. As conferences merge, this should help as the BCS will probably look much different in 5 years.
Sep 28, 2011 4:43pm
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Sep 28, 2011 4:49 PM
Last year, if we go by BCS rankings...

Oregon (2) - Pac 12
Wisconsin (5) - Big Ten
Auburn (1) - SEC
Virginia Tech (13) - ACC
Connecticut (NR) - Big East
Oklahoma (9) - Big XII
TCU (3) - Non BCS AQ

Stanford - Non-AQ (BCS #4)
Ohio State - Non-AQ (BCS #6)
Arkansas - Non-AQ (BCS #7)

Michigan State (8) and LSU (10) would have been selected (Big Ten and SEC, as expected) had Connecticut and Virginia Tech (Big East and ACC, as expected) not been given automatic bids.

Interestingly enough, things can go either way with teams who got snubbed. MSU got crushed in their bowl game while LSU dominated in their bowl game.
Sep 28, 2011 4:49pm
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Sep 28, 2011 5:19 PM
It is also a necessary step should the Cotton Bowl be awarded BCS status, which I would guess is going to happen when the next contract comes up.
Sep 28, 2011 5:19pm
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Sep 28, 2011 7:02 PM
Now that it's at Jerry's place, it definitely should be given the tradition it has...
Sep 28, 2011 7:02pm
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Sep 28, 2011 8:41 PM
It should go to the top BCS teams, not who wins worthless conferences. Uconn was a joke being in a BCS game.
Sep 28, 2011 8:41pm