TBone14
Posts: 6,383
Sep 20, 2011 12:53pm
If you weren't depressed enough...
Ohio State finds itself behind Wisconsin, Michigan, Illinois, Michigan State. Other traditional powers ahead of Ohio State include: South Florida, Baylor, Central Florida (off a loss to FIU), and the aforementioned Florida International.
Good times.
http://espn.go.com/college-football/powerrankings
Ohio State finds itself behind Wisconsin, Michigan, Illinois, Michigan State. Other traditional powers ahead of Ohio State include: South Florida, Baylor, Central Florida (off a loss to FIU), and the aforementioned Florida International.
Good times.
http://espn.go.com/college-football/powerrankings
karen lotz
Posts: 22,284
Sep 20, 2011 12:55pm
Don't forget 1-2 Notre Dame!
FatHobbit
Posts: 8,651
Sep 20, 2011 1:06pm
At least there's plenty of room for improvement...
TBone14
Posts: 6,383
Sep 20, 2011 1:07pm
All 3 teams ND has played are ahead of Ohio State. Norte Dame should be 3-0 without question and would probably beat Ohio State easily at this point. I don't think we will see the Buckeyes handle Michigan State as easily as Notre Dame did. In fact, I would be surprised if Ohio State even beats Michigan State.karen lotz;904372 wrote:Don't forget 1-2 Notre Dame!
j_crazy
Posts: 8,372
Sep 20, 2011 1:28pm
UND is better than OSU. For once. Talk to me after week 5 though.
Skyhook79
Posts: 5,739
Sep 20, 2011 1:42pm
It's not depressing. It took losing about 10 players to suspension, a couple of lost recruits and losing a legendary Coach for ND to be ahead of OSU and not by much.
Skyhook79
Posts: 5,739
Sep 20, 2011 1:45pm
Why should ND be 3-0? Did the 2 teams they lost to cheat?TBone14;904392 wrote:All 3 teams ND has played are ahead of Ohio State. Norte Dame should be 3-0 without question and would probably beat Ohio State easily at this point. I don't think we will see the Buckeyes handle Michigan State as easily as Notre Dame did. In fact, I would be surprised if Ohio State even beats Michigan State.
Tobias Fünke
Posts: 2,387
Sep 20, 2011 11:56pm
smhSkyhook79;904467 wrote:Why should ND be 3-0? Did the 2 teams they lost to cheat?
I don't think Ohio State would score a point on Notre Dame if they played tomorrow.Skyhook79;904463 wrote:It's not depressing. It took losing about 10 players to suspension, a couple of lost recruits and losing a legendary Coach for ND to be ahead of OSU and not by much.
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dat dude
Posts: 1,564
Sep 21, 2011 12:14am
LOL
Trueblue23
Posts: 7,463
Sep 21, 2011 12:47am
That's retarded.TBone14;904392 wrote:All 3 teams ND has played are ahead of Ohio State. Norte Dame should be 3-0 without question and would probably beat Ohio State easily at this point. I don't think we will see the Buckeyes handle Michigan State as easily as Notre Dame did. In fact, I would be surprised if Ohio State even beats Michigan State.
"Should". What the fuck ever. Michigan beat Notre Dame, fair and square. Deal with it.
Notre Dame "should" have beaten Michigan.. but they didn't, so why even say that? It's pointless.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Sep 21, 2011 7:43am
Yeah that 63rd ranked scoring defense would stifle Ohio State!Tobias Fünke;905162 wrote: I don't think Ohio State would score a point on Notre Dame if they played tomorrow.
BTW, it's not really an accomplishment to shut down Ohio State's offense right now...that's like bragging about beating up the retarded kid in your class
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Hamp89
Posts: 625
Sep 21, 2011 7:58am
SportsAndLady;905246 wrote:Yeah that 63rd ranked scoring defense would stifle Ohio State!
BTW, it's not really an accomplishment to shut down Ohio State's offense right now...that's like bragging about beating up the retarded kid in your class
It's a stupid argument anyway, but defensive stats are a little skewed this early on, especially considering the 3 teams ND played are currently in the top 25.
killer_ewok
Posts: 11,379
Sep 21, 2011 8:48am
I realize it's a message board for debate and discussion but why does it always come back to OSU vs. ND on here? Both teams have their issues and they don't play each other unless they somehow meet in a Bowl game.
I don't know. It just always seems to turn into a huge argument and it's not like it's going to get settled on the field.
I don't know. It just always seems to turn into a huge argument and it's not like it's going to get settled on the field.
FatHobbit
Posts: 8,651
Sep 21, 2011 8:58am
karen lotz;904372 wrote:Don't forget 1-2 Notre Dame!
I blame Karenkiller_ewok;905306 wrote:I realize it's a message board for debate and discussion but why does it always come back to OSU vs. ND on here? Both teams have their issues and they don't play each other unless they somehow meet in a Bowl game.
I don't know. It just always seems to turn into a huge argument and it's not like it's going to get settled on the field.
karen lotz
Posts: 22,284
Sep 21, 2011 9:11am
FatHobbit;905313 wrote:I blame Karen
ha, all I did was mention that 1-2 Notre Dame was ahead of OSU in ESPN's meaningless power rankings. I'd point the finger at Skyhook, who is probably just waiting for OSU to flip the switch like his Lakers did.
karen lotz
Posts: 22,284
Sep 21, 2011 9:13am
You continue to have great thoughts like this. Well done.dat dude;905167 wrote:LOL
Tobias Fünke
Posts: 2,387
Sep 21, 2011 10:34am
It would.SportsAndLady;905246 wrote:Yeah that 63rd ranked scoring defense would stifle Ohio State!
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Zoltan
Posts: 1,003
Sep 21, 2011 12:18pm
The OSU defense will keep them in alot of games this year, as always. Plus they get Adams, Posey, and Herron back after game five. The Miami game was a worse case scenario for an extremly young team who cannot pass the ball because they got down quickly on the road. I think if OSU actually develops game plans around Braxton's legs, along with a very strong traditional running game they could suprise a few teams. The X-factors are coaching and how many times Miller is going to make huge freshman mistakes the rest of the year. This team will be so much different from now to the end of the year it's so hard to tell what might happen.
TBone14
Posts: 6,383
Sep 21, 2011 1:08pm
Skyhook79;904467 wrote:Why should ND be 3-0? Did the 2 teams they lost to cheat?
They completely dominated both sides of the football vs South Florida. 508 to 254 yards. South Florida was 2-14 on 3rd down. 5 turnovers to 0 and it was a 3 point game. The one pass hit a Norte Dame player in the damn head and ended up being picked off.Trueblue23;905185 wrote:That's retarded.
"Should". What the fuck ever. Michigan beat Notre Dame, fair and square. Deal with it.
Notre Dame "should" have beaten Michigan.. but they didn't, so why even say that? It's pointless.
As for Michigan..we all watched that football game. I don't care if you are a Norte Dame fan, a Michigan fan or a Buckeye fan like me...you are delusional if you think Michigan played well enough to win that game. Redzone turnovers killed ND and and 2 of the worst defensive plays you will ever see. On top of that, when they caught a break and forced a Michigan fumble inside the 5, the ball popped right to Robinson for a TD.
So yes, any reasonable person can say Notre Dame should be 3-0.
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georgemc80
Posts: 983
Sep 21, 2011 1:15pm
A reasonable person says that Notre Dame COULD be 3-0.TBone14;905623 wrote:So yes, any reasonable person can say Notre Dame should be 3-0.
Tobias Fünke
Posts: 2,387
Sep 21, 2011 3:16pm
Completely agree.Zoltan;905562 wrote:The OSU defense will keep them in alot of games this year, as always. Plus they get Adams, Posey, and Herron back after game five. The Miami game was a worse case scenario for an extremly young team who cannot pass the ball because they got down quickly on the road. I think if OSU actually develops game plans around Braxton's legs, along with a very strong traditional running game they could suprise a few teams. The X-factors are coaching and how many times Miller is going to make huge freshman mistakes the rest of the year. This team will be so much different from now to the end of the year it's so hard to tell what might happen.
This.georgemc80;905636 wrote:A reasonable person says that Notre Dame COULD be 3-0.
It'll really eat at my soul of Notre Dame goes 10-2. This defense, outside of one quarter, has been superb.
Tobias Fünke
Posts: 2,387
Sep 21, 2011 3:27pm
http://www.footballstudyhall.com/2011/9/21/2440315/week-four-f-rankings
A ranking system that uses in-game data and not just W/L's in it's configurations.
A ranking system that uses in-game data and not just W/L's in it's configurations.
Trueblue23
Posts: 7,463
Sep 21, 2011 6:33pm
Well who won? Obviously Michigan played well enough to beat Notre Dame.TBone14;905623 wrote:They completely dominated both sides of the football vs South Florida. 508 to 254 yards. South Florida was 2-14 on 3rd down. 5 turnovers to 0 and it was a 3 point game. The one pass hit a Norte Dame player in the damn head and ended up being picked off.
As for Michigan..we all watched that football game. I don't care if you are a Norte Dame fan, a Michigan fan or a Buckeye fan like me...you are delusional if you think Michigan played well enough to win that game. Redzone turnovers killed ND and and 2 of the worst defensive plays you will ever see. On top of that, when they caught a break and forced a Michigan fumble inside the 5, the ball popped right to Robinson for a TD.
So yes, any reasonable person can say Notre Dame should be 3-0.
If that's your logic, Michigan would've won by 3 TDs had they played well.
Tobias Fünke
Posts: 2,387
Sep 21, 2011 7:10pm
Relax chief, no one is going to take away Michigan's W.Trueblue23;905980 wrote:Well who won? Obviously Michigan played well enough to beat Notre Dame.
If that's your logic, Michigan would've won by 3 TDs had they played well.
karen lotz
Posts: 22,284
Sep 21, 2011 7:33pm
Trueblue23;905980 wrote:Well who won? Obviously Michigan played well enough to beat Notre Dame.
If that's your logic, Michigan would've won by 3 TDs had they played well.
Michigan played to the best of their abilities and won by three.