Miami declaring 12+ players as "ineligible"

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Scarlet_Buckeye's avatar
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Aug 25, 2011 8:36am
CBS is reporting that Miami will declare 12+ players as "ineligible."
Twelve or more players being investigated by the NCAA in connection with allegations made by convicted Ponzi schemer Nevin Shapiro are expected to be ruled ineligible by the school, according to the Miami Herald. The Herald reports the school would declare the players ineligible and then hope the NCAA reinstates them by the time the season starts Sept. 5.
http://www.cbssports.com/#!/collegefootball/rapid-reports/post/15479511?ttag=gen10_on_all_fb_na_txt_0001
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Aug 25, 2011 8:46am
Fat chance.
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vball10set
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Aug 25, 2011 9:18am
9/17--The Ineligible Bowl looks more and more likely :rolleyes:
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Aug 25, 2011 3:30pm
OneBuckeye;873294 wrote:Fat chance.
Fat chance what? Fat chance the players play? Or fat chance 12+ players are ruled ineligible?
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Aug 25, 2011 3:34pm
Scarlet_Buckeye;873722 wrote:Fat chance what? Fat chance the players play? Or fat chance 12+ players are ruled ineligible?
Fat chance they get the Cam Newton treatment and get reinstated before the season.
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Aug 25, 2011 4:57pm
OneBuckeye;873725 wrote:Fat chance they get the Cam Newton treatment and get reinstated before the season.
I disagree. I think Miami will see (at the bare minimum) a couple players ineligible, if not all of the ones in question.
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Aug 25, 2011 8:56pm
I can't believe it took them this long.

What the NCAA needs to do to further discourage this is take ineligible players scholarships from them.
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Aug 25, 2011 9:51pm
I don't think Miami will get Cam Newton treatment. There is just far too much out there on this. There are actual pictures and receipts. Miami's goose is cooked.
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vball10set
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Aug 26, 2011 8:04am
jordo212000;874013 wrote:I don't think Miami will get Cam Newton treatment. There is just far too much out there on this. There are actual pictures and receipts. Miami's goose is cooked.
this, plus the fact that the U has been under a microscope for quite a while now--they're going to get hammered!!!
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Aug 26, 2011 10:50am
I doubt they get the particulars figured out soon enough to declare these guys eligible before the 5th game or so. Remember, dollar amounts figure heavily into game suspensions; so the NCAA is going to need a good forensic accountant to put this together. Then tell Miami what will need to happen for reinstatement (money repaid, games suspended). That's not a fast process unless you're trying to whitewash something -- as I believe they did in the sCam Newton case. I don't think the NCAA cared that he got ruled eligible quickly, figuring the case was unusual enough it would likely be revisited later (as it now happening).

I don't see the same issue with Miami.

I'm going to guess most of these guys lose 2-6 games, depending on what they accepted as gifts/cash.
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Aug 30, 2011 5:56pm
8 Miami players are suspended by the NCAA for at least a game:

http://eye-on-collegefootball.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/24156338/31628173
Senior quarterback Jacory Harris, wide receiver Travis Benjamin, defensive tackle Marcus Forston, defensive end Adewale Ojomo, and linebacker Sean Spence must all serve a one game suspension and repay their benefits. Converted tight end Dyron Dye and safety Ray-Ray Armstrong must serve a four game suspension while defensive end Olver Vernon must miss six games of competition.
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superman
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Aug 30, 2011 7:09pm
So, Jacory Harris pretty much got the Scam Newton treatment? 1 game? What a joke.
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enigmaax
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Aug 30, 2011 7:30pm
superman;877796 wrote:So, Jacory Harris pretty much got the Scam Newton treatment? 1 game? What a joke.
Maybe his hooker liked him so much, she did it "on the house".
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Aug 30, 2011 8:18pm
gorocks99;877735 wrote:8 Miami players are suspended by the NCAA for at least a game:

http://eye-on-collegefootball.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/24156338/31628173
I wonder what Olver Vernon did to get 6 lol

Abortion guy?
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Aug 30, 2011 8:27pm
I think the penalties are a little lax for some of the guys. Should've been at least 2, if not 3 games for the guys that took over $500 in benefits.
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Aug 30, 2011 8:51pm
Ridiculous
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Aug 30, 2011 9:39pm
It's really hard to pass judgement at this point, because we still don't know who did what.
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sportswizuhrd
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Aug 30, 2011 9:45pm
The 8 who got suspended and what they have to pay back before they are reinstated.

Vernon - 6 Games - Repay $1200 that he gifts/extra benefits he received as a recruit.
Armstrong - 4 Games - Repay $788
Dye - 4 Games - Repay $738
Forston - 1 Game - Repay more than $400
Spence - 1 Game - Repay more than $275
Ojomo - 1 Game - Repay more than $240
Benjamin - 1 Game - Repay more than 150
Harris - 1 Game - Repay more than $140

The three that were suspended multiple games were suspended more than the others because they took the benefits/gifts while they were being recruited.

4 more players have to repay less than $100 but were not suspended.
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Aug 30, 2011 9:48pm
vball10set;873321 wrote:9/17--The Ineligible Bowl looks more and more likely :rolleyes:
I think it's "Ineligi-Bowl"
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charliehustle14
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Aug 30, 2011 10:23pm
This just doesn't sit well with me but whatever. I'm not going to pretend like I know the NCAA's formula for punishments at this point.
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Aug 31, 2011 12:18am
The school also announced wide receiver Aldarius Johnson was suspended indefinitely by coach Al Golden for a violation of team rules.

^ this is going to hurt the ewe. Unless indefinitely is 1 game.
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Aug 31, 2011 1:03am
I hope Harris is playing when OSU rolls into town. He was the best thing on the field for the Buckeyes last season.
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MontyBrunswick
Aug 31, 2011 1:32am
It's easy to forget that this is only them reacting to the other-days news of Miami ruling them ineligible. The other improper benefits that Shapiro gave to current/former players as well as the coaches knowing about it is still under investigation.
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Aug 31, 2011 7:47am
Who do they "repay" this money to?
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dat dude
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Aug 31, 2011 8:07am
Charities of their choice.