The Backup Bowl: Ohio State @ Miami 9/17/11

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Aug 16, 2011 11:31 PM
I kid, but seriously.

With Ohio State missing 3 key players, and Pryor gone, and Miami seemingly in jeopardy of losing some key guys including Jacory Harris and Travis Benjamin to name a few among many, does this add or subtract from your interest?

I'm the biggest OSU homer there is, but this game will certainly get national attention....for all the wrong reasons.

That said, go Bucks.
Aug 16, 2011 11:31pm
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Aug 16, 2011 11:32 PM
lolFAIL. Wrong forum. Negative infinity Rep. I'm a dumbass.
Aug 16, 2011 11:32pm
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Aug 16, 2011 11:44 PM
Obviously the "Violations Bowl" will get a lot of press for the wrong reasons. That said, its still a huge game on the national scene for this year. The Miami investigation is just kicking off and we know how long these take. With 72 players named with cooberating evidence against them, the Miami situation looks like death penalty waiting to happen, but we have to wait and see what sticks and it will take months to sort this out. By the time they finish, this season will have played out and Ohio State and Miami are players in their conferences.

It will suck not having Jacory Harris on the field for the Canes. He threw a ridiculous number of picks against the Bucks last year.
Aug 16, 2011 11:44pm
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Aug 17, 2011 1:59 AM
OSU by 20.
Aug 17, 2011 1:59am
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Aug 17, 2011 8:24 AM
sleeper;864966 wrote:OSU by 20.
Felonies? or arrests?
Aug 17, 2011 8:24am
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Aug 17, 2011 8:37 AM
Makes me sick knowing this game is supposed to be in Prime Time as well
Aug 17, 2011 8:37am
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Aug 17, 2011 8:46 AM
Scooter1369;864758 wrote:Obviously the "Violations Bowl" will get a lot of press for the wrong reasons. That said, its still a huge game on the national scene for this year. The Miami investigation is just kicking off and we know how long these take. With 72 players named with cooberating evidence against them, the Miami situation looks like death penalty waiting to happen, but we have to wait and see what sticks and it will take months to sort this out. By the time they finish, this season will have played out and Ohio State and Miami are players in their conferences.

It will suck not having Jacory Harris on the field for the Canes. He threw a ridiculous number of picks against the Bucks last year.

I think that's what will be interesting. Miami may still be at full strength for the OSU game. But, will Miami try to get ahead of it and suspend players before then?
Aug 17, 2011 8:46am
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Aug 17, 2011 8:57 AM
WebFire;865051 wrote:I think that's what will be interesting. Miami may still be at full strength for the OSU game. But, will Miami try to get ahead of it and suspend players before then?

LOL its Miami so the answer is an obvious NO!
Aug 17, 2011 8:57am
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Aug 17, 2011 9:00 AM
Iliketurtles;865069 wrote:LOL its Miami so the answer is an obvious NO!

Right. Kind of what I thought.
Aug 17, 2011 9:00am
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Aug 17, 2011 9:07 AM
The initial feeling is "it's Miami" so they aren't going to be pro-active at sitting players who might have eligibility issues -- but don't forget you've also got a board of trustees and a president who are going to be embarrassed as hell about what's going on. They have to make a choice whether to be defiant (like USC was...and look where it got them) or cooperate like OSU and try to minimize the damage.

Donna Shalayla, even though she got majorly duped by this booster, doesn't strike me as someone who will mess around and wait. So I expect there to be pretty quick evaluations of players who are in jeopardy of losing eligibility, and for Miami to sit them for this game.
Aug 17, 2011 9:07am
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Aug 17, 2011 11:10 AM
Anytime the Bucks can beat Miami is Okay with me. If they set out some guys then great, makes us even. If anybody thinks this witch hunt is over, you are mistaken. Every major D-1 program has problems like this.
Aug 17, 2011 11:10am
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Aug 17, 2011 11:28 AM
I hope news agencies keep up with trying to hold programs accountable with REAL evidence that can corroborate statements made.

I would love to see college sports cleaned up... will it ever be perfect? Doubtful, but it doesn't seem like anyone recently feared retribution. Hopefully this scares people into playing by the rules.
Aug 17, 2011 11:28am
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Aug 17, 2011 12:13 PM
Fly4Fun;865213 wrote:I hope news agencies keep up with trying to hold programs accountable with REAL evidence that can corroborate statements made.

I would love to see college sports cleaned up... will it ever be perfect? Doubtful, but it doesn't seem like anyone recently feared retribution. Hopefully this scares people into playing by the rules.

If by news agencies, you mean Yahoo sports. Specifically Robinson and Wetzel. They are the only ones with balls and no Conflicts of Interest to ever pull something like this off.
Aug 17, 2011 12:13pm
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Aug 17, 2011 12:35 PM
I agree with Scooter. I would prefer to have Jacory Harris ON the field for that game. He might be OSU's best weapon, even though he wears a Miami uni.
Aug 17, 2011 12:35pm
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Aug 17, 2011 1:00 PM
The Yahoo! Bowl

I wish it was a week later, I'd go see DeLaSalle at Aquinas and then the next day see 2 teams almost as good.
Aug 17, 2011 1:00pm
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Aug 17, 2011 1:06 PM
Speedofsand;865335 wrote:The Yahoo! Bowl

I wish it was a week later, I'd go see DeLaSalle at Aquinas and then the next day see 2 teams almost as good.

What's OSU's record gonna be this year?
Aug 17, 2011 1:06pm
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Aug 17, 2011 1:28 PM
glancing at that easy schedule, I'll say 10-2.
Aug 17, 2011 1:28pm
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Aug 17, 2011 2:09 PM
Speedofsand;865379 wrote:glancing at that easy schedule, I'll say 10-2.

I'll take it. At least you have some sense in you (I know, I'm giving you too much credit here). OSU may very well end up 10-2, but it won't be because of an "easy" schedule.

I guess it'd been too easy to say 7-5 though right? I love the arrogance of SEC fans though, love it. If you ain't in the SEC, you don't play a tough schedule. Although I'm sure LSU playing Oregon is a tough game, right? Add the almighty Ducks to an already tough SEC schedule, and holy hell...what a schedule. Gimme a break.

The B1G is a tough conference, maybe not SEC tough, but it's a conference that's home to some of the more historic teams in NCAA football history: Penn State, Michigan, Michigan State, Minnesota, Nebraska, Ohio State... In fact, if you look at the top ten schools to win or be awarded National Championships since 1936, there are four B1G teams (Nebraska included). Prior to this decade, when was the SEC ever dominate? And I mean really dominate?
Aug 17, 2011 2:09pm
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Aug 17, 2011 2:19 PM
Minnesota?
Aug 17, 2011 2:19pm
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Aug 17, 2011 2:24 PM
OhioStatePride2003;865416 wrote:I'll take it. At least you have some sense in you (I know, I'm giving you too much credit here). OSU may very well end up 10-2, but it won't be because of an "easy" schedule.

I guess it'd been too easy to say 7-5 though right? I love the arrogance of SEC fans though, love it. If you ain't in the SEC, you don't play a tough schedule. Although I'm sure LSU playing Oregon is a tough game, right? Add the almighty Ducks to an already tough SEC schedule, and holy hell...what a schedule. Gimme a break.

The B1G is a tough conference, maybe not SEC tough, but it's a conference that's home to some of the more historic teams in NCAA football history: Penn State, Michigan, Michigan State, Minnesota, Nebraska, Ohio State... In fact, if you look at the top ten schools to win or be awarded National Championships since 1936, there are four B1G teams (Nebraska included). Prior to this decade, when was the SEC ever dominate? And I mean really dominate?

Historic success has no bearing on OSU's 2011 schedule. Calling it "easy" may be a little extreme, but its certainly not a difficult schedule. I'd guess by the end of the year it will be outside of the top 50 in the Sagarin rankings.
Aug 17, 2011 2:24pm
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Aug 17, 2011 2:37 PM
OhioStatePride2003;865416 wrote:The B1G is a tough conference, maybe not SEC tough, but it's a conference that's home to some of the more historic teams in NCAA football history: Penn State, Michigan, Michigan State, Minnesota, Nebraska, Ohio State... In fact, if you look at the top ten schools to win or be awarded National Championships since 1936, there are four B1G teams (Nebraska included). Prior to this decade, when was the SEC ever dominate? And I mean really dominate?

Someone just earned themselves some Rep.
Aug 17, 2011 2:37pm
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Aug 17, 2011 2:40 PM
OhioStatePride2003;865416 wrote:Prior to this decade, when was the SEC ever dominate? And I mean really dominate?

Well, if you're going to open that up you should really have some kind of criteria in mind as to what is successful. According to the site below, the SEC is the top conference of all-time. At present, they have their decade rankings down but I recall in the past the SEC being at the top in something like 4 of the last 6 decades (I believe some combination of the Big XII/Big 8 was #1 in the other two decades).

In the quarter century breakdown, the Big XII is #1 from 75-99 and the SEC is #1 for the two quarter centuries before that. The Big Ten didn't win one of those either, as the Ivy League is #1 from 00-24.

http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/rankings/all_time_conf_rankings.php

The exposure of the SEC has increased astronomically in this age and the BCS element has become a big factor in the recognition. The national championship run is unprecedented and that has added to the perception. But the SEC isn't a new powerhouse by any means, it just that the national exposure has been ramped in the last decade with other prominent advances in coverage.
Aug 17, 2011 2:40pm
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Aug 17, 2011 2:55 PM
DeadliestWarrior34;865458 wrote:Someone just earned themselves some Rep.

Shouldn't have. Minnesota? And if you are talking historically, you can't include Nebraska.
Aug 17, 2011 2:55pm
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Aug 17, 2011 2:55 PM
enigmaax;865461 wrote:Well, if you're going to open that up you should really have some kind of criteria in mind as to what is successful. According to the site below, the SEC is the top conference of all-time. At present, they have their decade rankings down but I recall in the past the SEC being at the top in something like 4 of the last 6 decades (I believe some combination of the Big XII/Big 8 was #1 in the other two decades).

In the quarter century breakdown, the Big XII is #1 from 75-99 and the SEC is #1 for the two quarter centuries before that. The Big Ten didn't win one of those either, as the Ivy League is #1 from 00-24.

http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/rankings/all_time_conf_rankings.php

The exposure of the SEC has increased astronomically in this age and the BCS element has become a big factor in the recognition. The national championship run is unprecedented and that has added to the perception. But the SEC isn't a new powerhouse by any means, it just that the national exposure has been ramped in the last decade with other prominent advances in coverage.

Now that deserves rep.
Aug 17, 2011 2:55pm
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Aug 17, 2011 3:05 PM
karen lotz;865427 wrote:Minnesota?
Yes Sir. Minnesota. 1936 marks the "Poll Era", and the Golden Gophers have four recognized national championships (although their last win was in 1960). I'm not saying those teams are dominate today, just that historically, the B1G is filled with teams that have a notable history to their name.

The Top 10

Notre Dame (8) - '43, '46, '47, '49, '66, '73, '77, '88
Alabama (7) - '61, '64, '65, '78, '79, '92, '09
Oklahomoa (7) - '50, '55, '56, '74, '75, '85, '00
Miami (Fl) (5) - '83, '87, '89, '91, '01
USC (4) - '62, '67, '72, '03
Minnesota (4) - '36, '40, '41, '60
Nebraska (4) - '70, '71, '94, '95
Ohio State (4) - '42, '54, '68, '02
Florida (3) - '96, '06, '08
Michigan (3) - '47, '48, '97

(Texas also has 3 NC - '63, '69, '05)

Also - @dat dude

I understand that historical success has absolutely no bearing on OSU's "easy schedule". I was just saying, from a conference standpoint - yes, the conference down south has dominated the last five years in college football. But outside of their five year terror on College Football, in what other decade did the conference down south dominate? My point was that yes, the conference down south has history and tradition (and as of late, a five year NC winning streak) but historically the B1G has been just as good. (Minus the last five years)
Aug 17, 2011 3:05pm