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Dec 19, 2011 4:16 PM
Footwedge;1020277 wrote:The 4th quarter drive was 91 yards...not bad. How many 91 yard drives have the Browns had this year?

Personally, I thought this was Tebow's best all around game this year...except for the fumbles.
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Dec 19, 2011 4:16pm
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Dec 19, 2011 4:16 PM
Footwedge;1020277 wrote:The 4th quarter drive was 91 yards...not bad. How many 91 yard drives have the Browns had this year?

Personally, I thought this was Tebow's best all around game this year...except for the fumbles.
I think quite a few people may agree with this. The issue comes in here:

-7 wins when he looked pretty bad everyong just said but they won. We all pointed out his poor play/stats and they didnt matter because in the 4th Q he won the game.

But today we are reading about how Tebow actually looked ok. Lets be honest, not good, ok. Why do the stats matter today and not the result, but in the other games it was the other way around?
Dec 19, 2011 4:16pm
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Dec 19, 2011 4:18 PM
Laley23;1020287 wrote:I think quite a few people may agree with this. The issue comes in here:

-7 wins when he looked pretty bad everyong just said but they won. We all pointed out his poor play/stats and they didnt matter because in the 4th Q he won the game.

But today we are reading about how Tebow actually looked ok. Lets be honest, not good, ok. Why do the stats matter today and not the result, but in the other games it was the other way around?
Good post Laley, As i said before his stats are fools gold.
Dec 19, 2011 4:18pm
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Dec 19, 2011 4:54 PM
sportswizuhrd;1020157 wrote:Decker #45 at WR with 182 yac of his 607 receiving yards.

Dont have the time to see where the other players rank at their position but here are the other players in total rank...

T-164 Moreno at 106 yac (101 total rec yards...)
T-173 Ball at 101 (148)
T-189 Willis at 89 (256)
T-193 Fells at 85 (220)
T-201 Thomas at 76 (441)

http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/player/_/stat/receiving/sort/receivingYardsAfterCatch/qualified/false/count/81

Decker is at #89 and the rest of the ranks proves how far off sleeper is.
Dec 19, 2011 4:54pm
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Dec 19, 2011 5:02 PM
Laley23;1020287 wrote:I think quite a few people may agree with this. The issue comes in here:

-7 wins when he looked pretty bad everyong just said but they won. We all pointed out his poor play/stats and they didnt matter because in the 4th Q he won the game.

But today we are reading about how Tebow actually looked ok. Lets be honest, not good, ok. Why do the stats matter today and not the result, but in the other games it was the other way around?

Tebow 7 wins Passer ratings:

Miami 91.7
Oakland 98.1
KC 102.6
Jets 61.2
SD 95.4
Minn 149.3
Chic 70.1

His 2 lowest ratings we all know what he did in the 4th quarter of those games. For a first year starter and having your team in first place in your division, I would take those stats anytime. Tebow has been solid and is getting better each week. Again his overall Passer rating is better than 18 other starting QB's, his TD to Int ratio is 2nd best in the entire NFL.
Dec 19, 2011 5:02pm
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Dec 19, 2011 7:18 PM
Skyhook79;1020340 wrote:http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/player/_/stat/receiving/sort/receivingYardsAfterCatch/qualified/false/count/81

Decker is at #89 and the rest of the ranks proves how far off sleeper is.
Yeah thats what I used for Decker. After seeing the YAC rankings, I was surprised at some of the players above Decker, but knew the rest of the Broncos would be way down.
Dec 19, 2011 7:18pm
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Dec 19, 2011 7:37 PM
Tebow has a great Qbr and doesnt throw picks!!!! he must be a great qb.


Or he faces 8 men in the box on a regular basis and can pass against that (50% of the time). Amazing!!!
Dec 19, 2011 7:37pm
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Dec 19, 2011 9:32 PM
Hb31187;1020482 wrote:Tebow has a great Qbr and doesnt throw picks!!!! he must be a great qb.


Or he faces 8 men in the box on a regular basis and can pass against that (50% of the time). Amazing!!!
No one said he was great but he certainly can play QB in the NFL and given time could be pretty good.
Dec 19, 2011 9:32pm
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Dec 20, 2011 7:53 AM
Skyhook79;1020346 wrote:Tebow 7 wins Passer ratings:

Miami 91.7
Oakland 98.1
KC 102.6
Jets 61.2
SD 95.4
Minn 149.3
Chic 70.1

His 2 lowest ratings we all know what he did in the 4th quarter of those games. For a first year starter and having your team in first place in your division, I would take those stats anytime. Tebow has been solid and is getting better each week. Again his overall Passer rating is better than 18 other starting QB's, his TD to Int ratio is 2nd best in the entire NFL.
He pretty much took a step back against NE. No one is focusing on his loss or his turnovers and sacks....only focusing on him being able to score in the first quarter since he hasn't really done that too much.

Tired of the media hype he's getting, if he were having a rookie season like Big Ben then i would understand it, but he's not. Can't wait to hear what everyone has to say when he goes on a losing streak.
Dec 20, 2011 7:53am
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Dec 20, 2011 7:54 AM
Skyhook79;1020683 wrote:No one said he was great but he certainly can play QB in the NFL and given time could be pretty good.
What a dumb blanket statement that could be said about any up and coming QB.
Dec 20, 2011 7:54am
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Dec 20, 2011 9:19 AM
Raw Dawgin' it;1021410 wrote:He pretty much took a step back against NE. But then again I clearly do not know much about football
Yeah right he took a step back.
Dec 20, 2011 9:19am
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Dec 20, 2011 9:22 AM
Skyhook79;1021502 wrote:I got pwned and I'm trying to spin it
Yeah, we know.
Dec 20, 2011 9:22am
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Dec 20, 2011 10:03 AM
Skyhook79;1021502 wrote:Yeah right he took a step back.
what did he do that was so impressive? "He started strong then sucked until 1 drive in the 4th"
Dec 20, 2011 10:03am
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Dec 20, 2011 10:07 AM
Skyhook79;1021502 wrote:Yeah right he took a step back.
Jamarcus Russel was pretty good his first year too.
Dec 20, 2011 10:07am
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Dec 20, 2011 12:42 PM
sleeper;1021589 wrote:Jamarcus Russel was pretty good his first year too.
Yeah, you are right, his 6 turnovers and 2 Td's were awesome his first year.

Btw- How about some stats to back up your claim about the Denver receivers? HaHa I will be waiting.
Dec 20, 2011 12:42pm
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Dec 20, 2011 1:08 PM
Skyhook79;1021797 wrote:Yeah, you are right, his 6 turnovers and 2 Td's were awesome his first year.

Btw- How about some stats to back up your claim about the Denver receivers? HaHa I will be waiting.
I meant average YAC. Obviously, because Tebow is a 50% passer(which is apparently a great stat according to Tebow fans), his receivers aren't going to be in the top for anything. All he does is win though right? LOL
Dec 20, 2011 1:08pm
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Dec 20, 2011 1:11 PM
Skyhook79;1021797 wrote:Yeah, you are right, his 6 turnovers and 2 Td's were awesome his first year.

Btw- How about some stats to back up your claim about the Denver receivers? HaHa I will be waiting.
While you are waiting, do me a favor and provide evidence to your claims that all cavs fans believed broussard, and also show me where I said I hate/dislike tim tebow. Thanks.
Dec 20, 2011 1:11pm
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Dec 20, 2011 1:17 PM
Skyhook79;1021797 wrote:Yeah, you are right, his 6 turnovers and 2 Td's were awesome his first year.

Btw- How about some stats to back up your claim about the Denver receivers? HaHa I will be waiting.
Her are some stats Hook. Tebow Ranks Last in Completions,Yrds a game at 123 yrds,Completion percentage at 48.6% .Been sacked 27 times just 10 fewer than qbs who have started everygame. Decker and Thomas are denvers receivers that rank in the top 150. decker at 70 and thomas at 143.
Dec 20, 2011 1:17pm
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Dec 20, 2011 1:18 PM
sleeper;1021838 wrote:I meant average YAC.
Eric Decker averages 4 YAC on his 43 receptions. Do you have any other stats you would like to throw against the wall to see if they stick?

#sleeperlosesagainagainagain LOL
Dec 20, 2011 1:18pm
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Dec 20, 2011 1:19 PM
landshark0731;1021852 wrote:Her are some stats Hook. Tebow Ranks Last in Completions,Yrds a game at 123 yrds,Completion percentage at 48.6% .Been sacked 27 times just 10 fewer than qbs who have started everygame. Decker and Thomas are denvers receivers the rank in the top 150. decker at 70 and thomas at 143.
Speak English and maybe I can decipher what you are saying and wait until after recess is over too.
Dec 20, 2011 1:19pm
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Dec 20, 2011 1:20 PM
Skyhook79;1021857 wrote:Speak English and maybe I can decipher what you are saying and wait until after recess is over too.
Should be easy to read hook. Tebow stinks.
Dec 20, 2011 1:20pm
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Dec 20, 2011 1:21 PM
Skyhook79;1021854 wrote:Eric Decker averages 4 YAC on his 43 receptions. Do you have any other stats you would like to throw against the wall to see if they stick?

#sleeperlosesagainagainagain LOL
You are using stats to fit your own argument. I'm not going to waste time proving you wrong, just to have you spin even more. Tebow is not a QB, get over it.
Dec 20, 2011 1:21pm
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Dec 20, 2011 1:23 PM
sleeper;1021864 wrote:You are using stats to fit your own argument. I'm not going to waste time proving you wrong, just to have you spin even more. Tebow is not a QB, get over it.
What stat would one use to determine Deckers average YAC? I am guessing his Average YAC stat.
But I knew it would go right over your head.
Dec 20, 2011 1:23pm
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Dec 20, 2011 1:26 PM
Skyhook79;1021870 wrote:What stat would one use to determine Deckers average YAC? I am guessing his Average YAC stat.
But I knew it would go right over your head.
You have to use the ratio of YAC/Recieving yards. This gives you how many yards were earned by the receiver on his own, rather than from Tebow. Now, go find that one player on Team Tebow that has 30 yards receiving and only 1 YAC.

Enjoy!
Dec 20, 2011 1:26pm
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Dec 20, 2011 1:32 PM
sleeper;1021872 wrote:You have to use the ratio of YAC/Recieving yards. This gives you how many yards were earned by the receiver on his own, rather than from Tebow. Now, go find that one player on Team Tebow that has 30 yards receiving and only 1 YAC.

Enjoy!
Someone needs to check IP's on sleeper and landshark. Pretty sure they match.
Dec 20, 2011 1:32pm