sleeper;984836 wrote:2007 Browns with Derek Anderson starting 10-5

2008 Browns 4-12

enigmaax;984848 wrote:So you're saying they shouldn't have let Anderson go?

sleeper;984857 wrote:I'm saying the Broncos success isn't dependent on Tebow. Tebow will be holding a clipboard in 3 years, or selling cars to Christians.

enigmaax;984879 wrote:Circumcising asians might be in there somewhere...and that is a much greater calling than being a quarterback anyway.

like_that;986642 wrote:SMH at this thread being 20 pages long.

enigmaax;986899 wrote:You are right. Protocol is to start 36 different threads to talk about the same thing.

Speedofsand;986636 wrote:"Since 2000, teams are 223--19 (.921) with 30+ rushes and 20 or fewer passes. Since the 1970 NFL merger, teams are 30--2 (.938) with 50+ rushes and 10 or fewer passes."

Speedofsand;990239 wrote:Where all my haters at?

Dan Fouts called the Denver-San Diego game today. He was giving props to Tebow all day. 9/18, 143, 1TD, no turnovers again.

Merrill?

Mulva;990380 wrote:Denver's defense with another terrific performance to lead the Broncos to a win.

sleeper;990397 wrote:It's pretty apparent the Broncos are only winning because of their stout defense. Von Miller should be getting all the credit, not Tebow and his terrible passing mechanics.

Tiernan;851668 wrote:Merrill Hoge just became my favorite sports analyst. This guy must be a freakin genius.

sleeper;851853 wrote:Tebow is kidding himself if he thinks he's a starting QB in the NFL. I'd take Pryor over Tebow any day, yes that Pryor.

Automatik;852526 wrote:College numbers mean nothing in the NFL.

I think the Tebow lovers are just pissy because Hoge was vocal and flat out squashed the hype.

sleeper;853470 wrote:Tebow is perhaps the 3rd best player I've ever seen play COLLEGE football. He's a bust in the pros, I'm completely shocked he was even drafted much less in the 1st round.

Automatik;856838 wrote:Awww another article picking on Timmy.

http://espn.go.com/espn/story/_/id/6846531/tim-tebow-not-ready-prime-time

Seems like Hoge might actually know wtf he's talking about.

Heretic;857407 wrote:Yes, as a fan of Tebow's college, you definitely know as much about his NFL prospects for success as a guy who's paid to analyze things like that does. Obviously. LOL.

Speedofsand;857614 wrote:Yes, I never said Brian Brohm was better than Aaron Rodgers, so I'm a better expert than Hoge. Obviously.

lhslep134;860399 wrote:If the haters used anything from preseason games as part of an argument, then yes, they would be delusional too.

Speedofsand;860416 wrote:If the haters used anything from preseason practice twitter remarks from a guy who said Brian Brohm was better than Aaron Rodgers as part of an argument, then yes, they would be delusional too.

queencitybuckeye;860477 wrote:You should quit making comparisons like this as one could take it to mean that you could possibly believe that Tebow is on the same level as an NFL quarterback as Orton. You don't want to do so, as it's so ridiculous, you lose all credibility not only in this lifetime, but in any possible future lifetimes.

robj55;883549 wrote:Tebow played against 3rd stringers.

sleeper;990397 wrote:It's pretty apparent the Broncos are only winning because of their stout defense. Von Miller should be getting all the credit, not Tebow and his terrible passing mechanics.

LJ;954978 wrote::rolleyes:


BTW, I just think Tebow is a ****ty player.

Automatik;955100 wrote:Like I said...I think a Tebow package would work, but an offense tailored his strengths would be a disaster.....maybe more so than the current situation.

Remember when Dallas tried that **** with Quincy Carter? He got destroyed.

Commander of Awesome;955167 wrote:ESPN is getting pwned.

DeyDurkie5;964669 wrote:He is week to week. Tebow sucks, just face it

robj55;971098 wrote:He is the worst QB on their roster, he is only playing because they were losing games and he won a popularity contest from the delusional fans. He is starting due to popularity, there have been many reports out of practice on how bad he was, and how he was the 4th best qb they had during training camp.

Hb31187;971166 wrote:hes the starting QB because of a popularity contest and they were pressured into making the decision. Hes not the best Qb on the roster

Mulva;990598 wrote:People have been talking about Von Miller all season. And nobody talked about the stout defense the first 5 games because they weren't stout. They averaged 28 ppg allowed, which would be 30th in the NFL.

Since Tebow took over they've given up 15 or less 4/6 games.

The one thing he's doing a great job of is not losing games. He isn't make the crucial turnover to lose games. But the defense is what's actually winning them. Not Tebow or the offense which has scored 18 or less points in 5/6 Tebow starts.

Skyhook79;990753 wrote:Pretty sure it wasn't the defense that drove 95 yds against the Jets for the win or the 80 yd drive today to tie it up. Tebow has definitely played a major role in lifting the team to a different level with his play. Deny it all you want.