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Aug 3, 2011 10:31 PM
We don't have anyone in AAA i guess worth bringing up to be our 4th or 5th outfielder, but why do we have 6 infielders and 1 catcher that can play first base and only 4 outfielders?
Aug 3, 2011 10:31pm
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Aug 3, 2011 10:34 PM
royal_k;851230 wrote:He's in Columbus
Yes..... he's my quick answer to the Kearns dilemma.
Aug 3, 2011 10:34pm
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Aug 3, 2011 10:46 PM
Gardens35;851236 wrote:Yes..... he's my quick answer to the Kearns dilemma.

And a good "quick answer", too!

Horse balls!....that's my comment on the last two games.
Aug 3, 2011 10:46pm
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Aug 3, 2011 10:46 PM
After letting another disappointing loss sink in, the Tribe's season starts tomorrow. They will have their rotation lined up.
Masterson @ BOS, Ubaldo @ TEX, Fausto @ TEX, Tomlin @ TEX, off day - then Masterson, Ubaldo and Fausto at home against the Tigers. Its going to be tough, but they have the arms lined up to give them a shot to get right back into this thing.
Aug 3, 2011 10:46pm
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Aug 3, 2011 10:54 PM
Wooball;851260 wrote:After letting another disappointing loss sink in, the Tribe's season starts tomorrow. They will have their rotation lined up.
Masterson @ BOS, Ubaldo @ TEX, Fausto @ TEX, Tomlin @ TEX, off day - then Masterson, Ubaldo and Fausto at home against the Tigers. Its going to be tough, but they have the arms lined up to give them a shot to get right back into this thing.

It definitely looks bleak, but for some reason, I'm not too pissed.

We've let two games slip away from the AL's best team in Boston and we're now 4 GB... However, there is still A LOT of season left.

As you said, our arms are lined up to make a run. Worst case scenario, we don't win the Central. Oh well, we now have a rotation that is VERY good and we have the owner who is now ready to spend some money in this 2 to 3 year window.

We get a bat in the winter meetings, Kipnis, Carrera, Chiz, Santana, etc keep improving and our offense is good enough to be even better next season.
Aug 3, 2011 10:54pm
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Aug 3, 2011 10:55 PM
I like your optimism, Wooball!
Aug 3, 2011 10:55pm
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Aug 3, 2011 10:58 PM
Kipnis has more home runs in the last 2 nights than Kearns does all year. And more in the last 4 games than Kearns has had in 2 seasons. In fact, in the last 4 games, Kipnis' home run total has equaled 66.67% of Kearns RBI total for all season.

Chew on that
Aug 3, 2011 10:58pm
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Aug 3, 2011 10:59 PM
BRF;851267 wrote:I like your optimism, Wooball!

Me too. If you can talk Hoops off the ledge than its good enough for me.
Aug 3, 2011 10:59pm
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Aug 3, 2011 11:00 PM
TBone14;851269 wrote:Kipnis has more home runs in the last 2 nights than Kearns does all year. And more in the last 4 games than Kearns has had in 2 seasons. In fact, in the last 4 games, Kipnis' home run total has equaled 66.67% of Kearns RBI total for all season.

Chew on that

Kipnis is going to be a very damn good player.

One thing I've been hearing is if the Chi Sox release Carlos Quentin, the Tribe may take a long look at picking him off of waivers.

Thoughts?
Aug 3, 2011 11:00pm
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Aug 3, 2011 11:02 PM
TBone14;851270 wrote:Me too. If you can talk Hoops off the ledge than its good enough for me.

Never was on a ledge. Frustration back in June doesn't = to being on a ledge. I've had many debates about the state of this team with people around here.
Aug 3, 2011 11:02pm
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Aug 3, 2011 11:04 PM
Also, Kipnis is getting all the rookie love right now, but Carrera is looking like a solid ball player too.

If I'm the Tribe, I tell Grady we're not picking up his option, but we could work out an incentive based deal. I'd also look to see if there is any value for him.
Aug 3, 2011 11:04pm
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Aug 3, 2011 11:09 PM
what does quentins stats look like this year
Aug 3, 2011 11:09pm
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Aug 3, 2011 11:11 PM
wes_mantooth;851281 wrote:what does quentins stats look like this year

.259/20/62

He's either really hot or really cold though.
Aug 3, 2011 11:11pm
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Aug 3, 2011 11:13 PM
hoops23;851282 wrote:.259/20/62

He's either really hot or really cold though.

yeah, but we have mostly guys that are only really cold...so it couldnt hurt. .259 would be like 3rd on our team...smh
Aug 3, 2011 11:13pm
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Aug 3, 2011 11:29 PM
wes_mantooth;851284 wrote:yeah, but we have mostly guys that are only really cold...so it couldnt hurt. .259 would be like 3rd on our team...smh

I'd rather have him than Ryan Ludwick, by far.
Aug 3, 2011 11:29pm
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Aug 3, 2011 11:46 PM
hoops23;850402 wrote:Oh STFU. Nobody said he was going to lift the offense himself, but he does improve our lineup. Guys usually take a bit to get adjusted to a new league. Just the way it is.

Really? The dude has a shit swing. I'm not exactly sure how someone like him "improves" our lineup. He's about as good as Kearns/Buck/Duncan from what I've seen. Oh, and if his strong point is OBP, then why the hell is he batting in the 6-hole? So that we can have Kearns drive him in? A mediocre player with his strong point not being suited by the lineup. Not exactly sure how you can be optimistic about him when he's done nothing to show us he's going to make a difference in this team. Except of course, his warning track power... on the 300' part of Fenway Park.

I know guys take a while to get adjusted, but I don't know why. Plus, if that's the case, why would we pick him up this late in the season hoping for a playoff push? He's done nothing to contribute.

If he turns things around I'll be the first to tell you I was wrong, but I honestly don't see it in this guy.

Oh, and Carlos Santana... that's a whole different story. Marson should be behind the plate every night. Even then we're kind of screwed at first base but I think I'd rather have Laporta in our lineup over Santana. This dude's bat is making me cringe.
Aug 3, 2011 11:46pm
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Aug 4, 2011 12:14 AM
the problem with picking up a pitcher at the deadline is that they only factor into every 5th game...keeping fingers crossed for a waiver move involving a hitter!!!
Aug 4, 2011 12:14am
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Aug 4, 2011 1:29 AM
I'd very much be a fan of adding Carlos Quentin. I don't care what his stats are, unless he's hurt he's better then Austin Kearns right now. I'll be honest though I can't see the White Sox waiving him when he's still very affordable next year and he probably wouldn't make it through waivers. I'd say the earliest he's available would be this off season if the Sox decide to go young.

Also Carrera has been playing very well ever since he became an everyday starter about 15 games ago. Hitting almost .300 over that stretch with an OBP around .370.
Aug 4, 2011 1:29am
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Aug 4, 2011 5:28 AM
Wooball;851260 wrote: Its going to be tough, but they have the arms lined up to give them a shot to get right back into this thing.

Too bad they'll probably lose every game 1-0 with this shitastic offense.

EDIT: My bad, they will lose each game 2-1 as Kipnis will have a solo HR each game.
Aug 4, 2011 5:28am
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Aug 4, 2011 5:33 AM
I like this team for some reason. Clearly they are just and average team right now but I can see some of the personalities being here for a while.
Aug 4, 2011 5:33am
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Aug 4, 2011 7:46 AM
Our pen has been one of our strengths all year, but it appears they're wearing down--and it doesn't help that our offense is giving them very little, if any, support...we need another bat--desperately!!!
Aug 4, 2011 7:46am
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Aug 4, 2011 8:21 AM
Tough loss the last 2 nights. A break here and there were looking at a sweep tonight but it didn't bounce our way. As for the tigers, there not going to stay hot forever and u love how our pitching is lined up these next 2 series. Also if this is just a sign of the future of Kipnis my god our middle infield would be the best in baseball. The future looks bright for the tribe so if we don't win the central this year I wouldn't be that pissed.
Aug 4, 2011 8:21am
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Aug 4, 2011 8:22 AM
hoops23;851274 wrote:Never was on a ledge. Frustration back in June doesn't = to being on a ledge. I've had many debates about the state of this team with people around here.

I'm approaching the ledge with this offense. Asdrubal has to have a huge game for us to win.
vball10set;851401 wrote:Our pen has been one of our strengths all year, but it appears they're wearing down--and it doesn't help that our offense is giving them very little, if any, support...we need another bat--desperately!!!

This. You can't rely on your pen every day. I can't get mad at Joe Smith. He has been so good. Its August 4th and that is first home run he has given up all year.
Aug 4, 2011 8:22am
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Aug 4, 2011 8:46 AM
hoops23;851272 wrote:Kipnis is going to be a very damn good player.

One thing I've been hearing is if the Chi Sox release Carlos Quentin, the Tribe may take a long look at picking him off of waivers.

Thoughts?

I would take Quentin in a heartbeat, but it sounds like he wouldn't make it to the Tribe to claim.
Aug 4, 2011 8:46am
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Aug 4, 2011 12:02 PM
So....will today be the day we finally slip below .500?
Aug 4, 2011 12:02pm