Belly35
Posts: 9,716
Jun 30, 2011 12:59pm
Ways to kill employment by Obama.
Can we start a list of job killing agenda that Obama and the Administration has done or thinking of doing?
Let start with this failure idea: General aviation employs 1.2 million Americans and generates $150 billion a year in revenue. Obama praises it as one of America's industries that still maintains an advantage over other countries' manufacturers.
So it disappointed several in the aviation industry when Obama on Wednesday held up an obscure tax break for corporate jet owners as an example of why Congress should close tax loopholes as part of any deficit reduction deal.
Clueless and incompetent is Obama
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/06/30/aviation-industry-assails-obama-for-cynical-call-to-end-corporate-jet-tax-break/
Can we start a list of job killing agenda that Obama and the Administration has done or thinking of doing?
Let start with this failure idea: General aviation employs 1.2 million Americans and generates $150 billion a year in revenue. Obama praises it as one of America's industries that still maintains an advantage over other countries' manufacturers.
So it disappointed several in the aviation industry when Obama on Wednesday held up an obscure tax break for corporate jet owners as an example of why Congress should close tax loopholes as part of any deficit reduction deal.
Clueless and incompetent is Obama
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/06/30/aviation-industry-assails-obama-for-cynical-call-to-end-corporate-jet-tax-break/
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Thinthickbigred
Posts: 4,148
Jul 2, 2011 9:01am
Stop the Illegal war in Iraq by King Bush and bring home all those corrupt Haliburtin people ... Oh and put some troops out of work ..I think most of those guys might like that idea though
coyotes22
Posts: 11,298
Jul 27, 2011 8:47am
More job killing by the Union? Could Ohio go 'dry'?
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/teamsters-union-threatens-to-cut-off-ohios-budweiser-supply/
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/teamsters-union-threatens-to-cut-off-ohios-budweiser-supply/
derek bomar
Posts: 3,722
Jul 27, 2011 9:05am
At first glance I totally misread this thread title...glad I re-read it
believer
Posts: 8,153
Jul 28, 2011 5:07am
Didn't your Anointed One promise to end King Bush's illegal war? Oh that's right...he did. Not only are we still in Iraq and Afghanistan, but your Nobel Peace Prize winner upped the ante by getting us involved in his own illegal war in Libya.Thinthickbigred;820148 wrote:Stop the Illegal war in Iraq by King Bush and bring home all those corrupt Haliburtin people ... Oh and put some troops out of work ..I think most of those guys might like that idea though
When all else fails, Blame Bush.
Bush has been out of power for almost 3 years now and you ultra-lefties STILL can't get over it. Seek help....soon.
Writerbuckeye
Posts: 4,745
Jul 28, 2011 10:47am
believer;844090 wrote:Didn't your Anointed One promise to end King Bush's illegal war? Oh that's right...he did. Not only are we still in Iraq and Afghanistan, but your Nobel Peace Prize winner upped the ante by getting us involved in his own illegal war in Libya.
When all else fails, Blame Bush.
Bush has been out of power for almost 3 years now and you ultra-lefties STILL can't get over it. Seek help....soon.
This. You libs had complete control of the government for a while -- why didn't you just arbitrarily bring home all the troops then?
I'll tell you why: you are political cowards and bullies. You talk a good game, but when it comes time to put in writing and vote on things you want, you won't do it. Fear of political repercussions. So, like the playground bully, once someone calls your bluff, you cry and go home to mommy.
What is it now? More than 800 days since the Obama administration put forth any kind of budget in writing for the people to look over?
Cowards.
coyotes22
Posts: 11,298
Jul 28, 2011 10:55am
Writerbuckeye;844307 wrote:This. You libs had complete control of the government for a while -- why didn't you just arbitrarily bring home all the troops then?
I'll tell you why: you are political cowards and bullies. You talk a good game, but when it comes time to put in writing and vote on things you want, you won't do it. Fear of political repercussions. So, like the playground bully, once someone calls your bluff, you cry and go home to mommy.
What is it now? More than 800 days since the Obama administration put forth any kind of budget in writing for the people to look over?
Cowards.
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But, Im not counting.
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Con_Alma
Posts: 12,198
Jul 28, 2011 11:06am
He also said he would close Gittmo.believer;844090 wrote:Didn't your Anointed One promise to end King Bush's illegal war? Oh that's right...he did. Not only are we still in Iraq and Afghanistan, but your Nobel Peace Prize winner upped the ante by getting us involved in his own illegal war in Libya.
When all else fails, Blame Bush.
Bush has been out of power for almost 3 years now and you ultra-lefties STILL can't get over it. Seek help....soon.
He also said he would "set strict budget caps to limit federal spending on an annual basis."
He also said he would "roll back government spending to pre-stimulus, pre-bailout levels, saving at least $100 billion in the first year alone."
He also said he would refuse to "consider House legislation that includes earmarks."
Oops.
coyotes22
Posts: 11,298
Jul 28, 2011 11:23am
How much you wanna wager, you hear every one of those again, in 2012?Con_Alma;844350 wrote:He also said he would close Gittmo.
He also said he would "set strict budget caps to limit federal spending on an annual basis."
He also said he would "roll back government spending to pre-stimulus, pre-bailout levels, saving at least $100 billion in the first year alone."
He also said he would refuse to "consider House legislation that includes earmarks."
Oops.
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QuakerOats
Posts: 8,740
Jul 28, 2011 11:56am
Illegal intervention into the business operations of Boeing
NLRB radicals rewriting rules to favor job-killing unionism
Totally out-of-control EPA headed by marxist radicals over-regulating EVERYTHING
Directive to bankrupt coal industry
Complete mis-allocation of 'stimulus' resources
Continual threat of hire taxes on job creators
obamaKare
Frank-Dodd
Daily assault on private enterprise and capitalism
.......... just a few of many
Change we can believe in .......
NLRB radicals rewriting rules to favor job-killing unionism
Totally out-of-control EPA headed by marxist radicals over-regulating EVERYTHING
Directive to bankrupt coal industry
Complete mis-allocation of 'stimulus' resources
Continual threat of hire taxes on job creators
obamaKare
Frank-Dodd
Daily assault on private enterprise and capitalism
.......... just a few of many
Change we can believe in .......
Writerbuckeye
Posts: 4,745
Jul 28, 2011 12:34pm
coyotes22;844384 wrote:How much you wanna wager, you hear every one of those again, in 2012?
You will, but not from the MSM.
coyotes22
Posts: 11,298
Jul 28, 2011 12:36pm
Writerbuckeye;844501 wrote:You will, but not from the MSM.
The drive-by's will be too far up his rear, to be able to report anything anyway.
believer
Posts: 8,153
Jul 28, 2011 6:19pm
He also promised to run the most transparent administration in American history akin to Clinton's promise to run the most ethical administration in American history.Con_Alma;844350 wrote:He also said he would close Gittmo.
He also said he would "set strict budget caps to limit federal spending on an annual basis."
He also said he would "roll back government spending to pre-stimulus, pre-bailout levels, saving at least $100 billion in the first year alone."
He also said he would refuse to "consider House legislation that includes earmarks."
Oops.
Well, Clinton lied, but it is in fact quite easy to see through Obama's ineptitude.
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gut
Posts: 15,058
Jul 28, 2011 7:25pm
believer;844895 wrote:He also promised to run the most transparent administration
To be fair, he removed all the smoke & mirrors from the budget by not having one
2kool4skool
Posts: 1,804
Jul 28, 2011 10:15pm
Writerbuckeye;844307 wrote:I'll tell you why: you are political cowards and bullies. You talk a good game, but when it comes time to put in writing and vote on things you want, you won't do it. Fear of political repercussions.
I agree, but this is hardly unique to one side. It's funny how a balanced budget amendment wasn't so important when the Republicans controlled all 3 branches of government.
BGFalcons82
Posts: 2,173
Jul 28, 2011 11:02pm
2kool4skool;845177 wrote:I agree, but this is hardly unique to one side. It's funny how a balanced budget amendment wasn't so important when the Republicans controlled all 3 branches of government.
CORRECT!!
Now turn the page. What happened to these RINO bastards in 2006? Did their previous supporters vote for the Democrat candidate? Nope...they stayed home as a sign of disapproval for the RINOs who lost their way. Happened again in 2008. Now, with more RINOS unemployed, the conservatives have taken to carrying the flag for reduced government size and the Balanced Budget Amendment. You are right about the Dems and the Dem Lite party, which was in complete control for many many years. The party is over for their asses and their greed-lust for spending other people's money to perpetuate their existence.
Writerbuckeye
Posts: 4,745
Jul 28, 2011 11:31pm
2kool4skool;845177 wrote:I agree, but this is hardly unique to one side. It's funny how a balanced budget amendment wasn't so important when the Republicans controlled all 3 branches of government.
Yep, and now we're almost out of time all around. Play time is over for both parties. If we're going to get serious about correcting this problem, forcing the government, by law, to live within its means seems the best way to do it.
believer
Posts: 8,153
Jul 29, 2011 4:54am
Can't disagree.2kool4skool;845177 wrote:I agree, but this is hardly unique to one side. It's funny how a balanced budget amendment wasn't so important when the Republicans controlled all 3 branches of government.
When the Repubs did control DC politics they quickly began behaving and spending like Dems. Then, in order to regain power, the Dems promised to bring civility, hope, change, and fiscal responsibility back to the Beltway and promptly introduced us to Reid/Obama/Pelosi....and we all know where we stand today on that promise.
The difference now, however, is that those wild, wacky Tea Party Repubs in the House are holding the Rino Repubs and the Dem's feet to the fire on this budget issue. At least we're beginning to see some courage and perhaps a little willingness by some DC politicians to sound the alarm.
fish82
Posts: 4,111
Jul 29, 2011 8:11am
When the pubs controlled all three houses, the deficit was about 1/5 of what it is today. I can kind of understand why it's suddenly important.2kool4skool;845177 wrote:I agree, but this is hardly unique to one side. It's funny how a balanced budget amendment wasn't so important when the Republicans controlled all 3 branches of government.
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Jul 29, 2011 8:30am
coyotes22;842767 wrote:More job killing by the Union? Could Ohio go 'dry'?
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/teamsters-union-threatens-to-cut-off-ohios-budweiser-supply/
This is why unions need to be gone. You don't like the benefits and health care your company provides compared to competitors, then find another job!
coyotes22
Posts: 11,298
Jul 29, 2011 11:11am
believer
Posts: 8,153
Jul 29, 2011 2:37pm
True but let's be honest. That Repub-controlled Congress helped get the deficit snowball rolling. If they had done what they SHOULD have done when they had control of DC politics, we wouldn't even be having this debate.fish82;845390 wrote:When the pubs controlled all three houses, the deficit was about 1/5 of what it is today. I can kind of understand why it's suddenly important.
coyotes22
Posts: 11,298
Jul 29, 2011 2:39pm
believer;845775 wrote:True but let's be honest. That Repub-controlled Congress helped get the deficit snowball rolling. If they had done what they SHOULD have done when they had control of DC politics, we wouldn't even be having this debate.
+14.5trillion
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gut
Posts: 15,058
Jul 29, 2011 4:19pm
Absolutely. Both parties deserve 100% credit for this mess. But the pidgeons are finally coming home to roost and only one party (more accurately, a faction within one party) is willing to take action.believer;845775 wrote:True but let's be honest. That Repub-controlled Congress helped get the deficit snowball rolling. If they had done what they SHOULD have done when they had control of DC politics, we wouldn't even be having this debate.
It's not rocket science. You have to chop $1T off govt spending ASAP, more than likely cut SS/Medicare some 15% (with an equal increase in FICA = everyone shares the pain), and work on the gradual implementation of a VAT. That's the only way out I see. Otherwise we have to get very serious about chopping entitlements we'd all love to have, but simply can't afford. Oh, and we should immediately return capital gains to 20% from 15%.
BGFalcons82
Posts: 2,173
Jul 29, 2011 8:07pm
Gut- absolutely NOT on raising capital gains tax!! I say reduce it to 0% for 2 yrs and watch PRIVATE investment skyrocket. No more job-creating burdens on job-creators dammit!!