Speedofsand
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Jun 25, 2011 12:40am
lmao
Big 10 Commish Wants Special Treatment in College Baseball
http://espn1420.com/big-10-commish-wants-special-treatment-in-college-baseball/
http://www.omaha.com/article/20110618/CWS/706189786/0#jim-delany-s-fight-to-change-the-cws
College baseball isn't fair to Big Ten schools, Delany says.
Delany formally proposed the CWS move from eight teams to 10, with the two new slots reserved for cold-weather schools.
The last Big Ten team to reach the CWS: Michigan in '84.
Delany recalls a time when it wasn't that way. A time when Big Ten schools like Ohio State and Minnesota competed for and won national championships. The Big Ten won six national titles from 1953 to 1966.
In those days, the NCAA tournament was regionalized. Teams from the same geographic district competed for a CWS spot.
The bracket expanded in 1999 from 48 to 64, adding a weekend to the NCAA tournament. Over the years, scholarships and roster sizes have been cut, giving rise to parity. Schools like Dallas Baptist have a shot to make a CWS run.
The notion that a school like Rice, with 3,000 undergraduate students, has an advantage over Ohio State is “a joke,” Graham says.
Wonder if he thinks a team from the South should be guaranteed a spot in the NCAA Frozen Four ice hockey championship?
http://www.tennessean.com/article/20110624/COLUMNIST0202/306240039/David-Climer-Big-Ten-CWS-proposal-laughable?odyssey=mod|newswell|text|Sports|s
Ten schools averaged more than 4,000 in attendance this season — topped by LSU’s 10,556. Five of those 10 were from the SEC. For the record, Vanderbilt’s average home attendance was 2,681, ranking 27th in the nation.
No Big Ten school made the 44-team list, which required average attendance of 1,200 to make the cut. Big Ten pledge Nebraska checked in right behind Vanderbilt, averaging 2,366.
Big 10 Commish Wants Special Treatment in College Baseball
http://espn1420.com/big-10-commish-wants-special-treatment-in-college-baseball/
http://www.omaha.com/article/20110618/CWS/706189786/0#jim-delany-s-fight-to-change-the-cws
College baseball isn't fair to Big Ten schools, Delany says.
Delany formally proposed the CWS move from eight teams to 10, with the two new slots reserved for cold-weather schools.
The last Big Ten team to reach the CWS: Michigan in '84.
Delany recalls a time when it wasn't that way. A time when Big Ten schools like Ohio State and Minnesota competed for and won national championships. The Big Ten won six national titles from 1953 to 1966.
In those days, the NCAA tournament was regionalized. Teams from the same geographic district competed for a CWS spot.
The bracket expanded in 1999 from 48 to 64, adding a weekend to the NCAA tournament. Over the years, scholarships and roster sizes have been cut, giving rise to parity. Schools like Dallas Baptist have a shot to make a CWS run.
The notion that a school like Rice, with 3,000 undergraduate students, has an advantage over Ohio State is “a joke,” Graham says.
Wonder if he thinks a team from the South should be guaranteed a spot in the NCAA Frozen Four ice hockey championship?
http://www.tennessean.com/article/20110624/COLUMNIST0202/306240039/David-Climer-Big-Ten-CWS-proposal-laughable?odyssey=mod|newswell|text|Sports|s
Ten schools averaged more than 4,000 in attendance this season — topped by LSU’s 10,556. Five of those 10 were from the SEC. For the record, Vanderbilt’s average home attendance was 2,681, ranking 27th in the nation.
No Big Ten school made the 44-team list, which required average attendance of 1,200 to make the cut. Big Ten pledge Nebraska checked in right behind Vanderbilt, averaging 2,366.

Curly J
Posts: 7,282
Jun 25, 2011 3:35am
This pic was stolen from the basement in order for Delany to get the sand out of his Vag. (thanks Raw for the pic)

Okay I didn't read the whole article...yet, but i figure it's about it's unfair that we have to play in bad weather up North, yet come football season we are better for playing in bad weather because that's what football is all about and those teams down South couldn't handle our weather in football season...
Or I could be wrong, so Oh well if that's the case...
Justin, move this to the College Baseball Forum, once it's created...or the basement since my post might put it there.
^^^ All tongue in cheek talk ^^^
EDIT: Okay I have read through the articles. Some good points and bad points on both sides. It's my theory that this stuff cycles around in all college sports. Some teams are good, then have down years and others improve. I believe most of it depends on recruiting, not the weather. The statements about Nebraska's Coach traveling south two or three weeks in February and March does make some sense. Maybe others should take a page from their book.

Okay I didn't read the whole article...yet, but i figure it's about it's unfair that we have to play in bad weather up North, yet come football season we are better for playing in bad weather because that's what football is all about and those teams down South couldn't handle our weather in football season...
Or I could be wrong, so Oh well if that's the case...
Justin, move this to the College Baseball Forum, once it's created...or the basement since my post might put it there.
^^^ All tongue in cheek talk ^^^
EDIT: Okay I have read through the articles. Some good points and bad points on both sides. It's my theory that this stuff cycles around in all college sports. Some teams are good, then have down years and others improve. I believe most of it depends on recruiting, not the weather. The statements about Nebraska's Coach traveling south two or three weeks in February and March does make some sense. Maybe others should take a page from their book.

Little Danny
Posts: 4,288
Jun 25, 2011 6:47pm
Hey UCONN made it to the CWS world series this year--- if they made it then there is no freaking excuse for B10 schools not to make it.

karen lotz
Posts: 22,284
Jun 25, 2011 8:24pm
Little Danny;813750 wrote:Hey UCONN made it to the CWS world series this year--- if they made it then there is no freaking excuse for B10 schools not to make it.
No they didn't. UCONN made a Super Regional but was swept by South Carolina.

Emmett Brown
Posts: 478
Jun 26, 2011 12:02am
Ohio State was one win away from the CWS in the early 00's and in 03 hosted the super regionals but was swept by Southwest missouri st I believe. Also OSU has won a CWS before, minnesota has three titles and michigan has two. Last title from a big 10 school was 1966 Ohio State.

bases_loaded
Posts: 6,912
Jun 26, 2011 9:50am
If OSU would just hire Kent's coach they would have a few more appearances

1_beast
Posts: 5,642
Jun 26, 2011 10:38am
idk about baseball...but in relation to football and the cold weather...I would like to see some bowl games and/or nat'l title games played in "the shoe" or "the big house" bring the warm weather teams into the cold to play...then see how that "SEC dominance" pans out!

karen lotz
Posts: 22,284
Jun 26, 2011 10:41am
Big Ten Championship game is in a dome. Everyone saying they want sec teams to play in cold weather is a hypocrite.

1_beast
Posts: 5,642
Jun 26, 2011 10:46am
Right!!!! I remember all the tOSU/tSUN games I have been to in the past....(the ones that decided the big 10 title)...I forgot about the sweet domes that were built temporarily over those respective stadiums.....damn beer!!!

1_beast
Posts: 5,642
Jun 26, 2011 10:49am
Call you as you wish, but why does the BIG games always cater to the fair weather teams? Some of the BEST games ever have been in Ice, snow, sleet, rain, muddy slop....(yes i know that mud and slop games are a thing of the past)

karen lotz
Posts: 22,284
Jun 26, 2011 10:50am
You do realize there is a Big Ten CG this year right? Lucas Oil Stadium was chosen over outdoor venues. You can't whine for sec teams to play in cold weather when your conference opts to play indoors.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Jun 26, 2011 10:51am
karen lotz;814157 wrote:Big Ten Championship game is in a dome. .
A lot of people want it at Soldier Field though.

karen lotz
Posts: 22,284
Jun 26, 2011 10:53am
Yeah I agree, I think it would be pretty cool to have it there as well. But that's not what is happening.lhslep134;814165 wrote:A lot of people want it at Soldier Field though.

1_beast
Posts: 5,642
Jun 26, 2011 11:01am
Yes, I realize that. Along with adding Nebrasksa. Im not disputing what you say...simply stating that your ideas/facts are in the future, and have went unprecedented...no big 10 CG...karen lotz;814164 wrote:You do realize there is a Big Ten CG this year right? Lucas Oil Stadium was chosen over outdoor venues. You can't whine for sec teams to play in cold weather when your conference opts to play indoors.

OSH
Posts: 4,145
Jun 26, 2011 11:26am
Actually, one of the first venues mentioned for the Big 10 championship game was Lambeau Field.

DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
Jun 26, 2011 11:39am
where there is big ten discussion, there is lotz(a notre dame fan)

karen lotz
Posts: 22,284
Jun 26, 2011 12:05pm
DeyDurkie5;814192 wrote:where there is big ten discussion, there is lotz(a notre dame fan)
Solid contribution! Again you don't post anything that adds to the discussion. Too bad this thread isn't about smoking weed and drinking.

like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jun 26, 2011 12:08pm
Although I admit I think the SEC is much more talented and just better overall than the Big 10, I always wondered how any SEC school or warm weather school would handle a game mid november/december in the midwest.
As for the big 10 commish QQ.
Just a further example of the pussification of this country. "Oh no, it's not fair! Everyone should get recognition!." The fact of the matter is there is just better talent overall in warmer areas in the country.
As for the big 10 commish QQ.
Just a further example of the pussification of this country. "Oh no, it's not fair! Everyone should get recognition!." The fact of the matter is there is just better talent overall in warmer areas in the country.

KR1245
Posts: 4,317
Jun 26, 2011 12:27pm
karen lotz;814157 wrote:Big Ten Championship game is in a dome. Everyone saying they want sec teams to play in cold weather is a hypocrite.
Thats one game
I dont think its hypocritical at all, I would love to see some of the bigger bowl games in colder weather stadiums
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Con_Alma
Posts: 12,198
Jun 26, 2011 2:15pm
karen lotz;814208 wrote:Solid contribution! Again you don't post anything that adds to the discussion. Too bad this thread isn't about smoking weed and drinking.
I know I probably shouldn't comment but that was a little bit funny.

hasbeen
Posts: 6,504
Jun 26, 2011 2:18pm
KR1245;814224 wrote:Thats one game
I dont think its hypocritical at all, I would love to see some of the bigger bowl games in colder weather stadiums
You can't argue to have a big bowl game in one if your conferences outdoor stadiums when your conference chose to have their championship game indoors.

OSH
Posts: 4,145
Jun 26, 2011 2:52pm
pnhasbeen;814289 wrote:You can't argue to have a big bowl game in one if your conferences outdoor stadiums when your conference chose to have their championship game indoors.
Sure you can. They just were
But really, why not? Pretty much EVERY Big 10 team has outdoor games normally. Why not play just one game in a dome? It's not the football teams making the decision anyway. It's the Big 10 conference knowing that it'll probably be a better "experience" for the fans. It's also a neutral location, and it's not really favoring one school too much (maybe IU and Purdue). But teams get used to traveling anyways, so it's alright where they selected it. It's as central as it's going to get probably.
I am a fan of outdoor games. I like the weather. That's the reason I have only experienced Lambeau Field in December -- it just wouldn't be the same being there in August. I also think the 2014 Super Bowl being in New York is a good thing. The elements are fun.
We saw last year that it doesn't matter where the bowl games are hosted, the weather and elements play a role no matter if you are south or north. Wasn't it the Penn State game that was just absolutely pouring rain and the field was trashed? So if you can have weather in the south, why not have weather in the north? I don't think there's a problem with that.
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Con_Alma
Posts: 12,198
Jun 26, 2011 3:08pm
When you look a the big 10 schedule there don't really seem to be many cold weather games. Occasionally it happens but it's not like there are more truly nasty weather conditions compared to good weather conditions.
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Jun 26, 2011 3:30pm
Con_Alma;814316 wrote:When you look a the big 10 schedule there don't really seem to be many cold weather games. Occasionally it happens but it's not like there are more truly nasty weather conditions compared to good weather conditions.
Bingo. OSU/Michigan is usually played in 50 and 60 degree weather. I think the whole B1G cold weather thing is a big myth.

Rotinaj
Posts: 7,699
Jun 26, 2011 4:03pm
There definitely arent many cold weather games in the big 10 which is why people who make that argument are annoying as shit.