LeBron James or Roberto Luongo: Who's the Bigger Goat for His Team's Loss?

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Azubuike24

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Jun 16, 2011 11:10 AM
LeBron.

The Canucks wouldn't have won last night even if Luongo saved 99 out of 100 shots. They never scored...
Jun 16, 2011 11:10am
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Jun 16, 2011 11:13 AM
I'd say Lebron too because Luongo at least showed up in 3 of the 7 games. Lebron was a no show during the 4th quarter of most of that series.
Jun 16, 2011 11:13am
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Jun 16, 2011 11:19 AM
Azubuike24;804423 wrote:LeBron.

The Canucks wouldn't have won last night even if Luongo saved 99 out of 100 shots. They never scored...

Yeah but he also gave up 15 goals in less than 3 games in boston
Jun 16, 2011 11:19am
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Jun 16, 2011 11:20 AM
Luongo. Lebron at least was passing and playing defense even if he wasn't scoring, but Luongo had only one job and couldn't do it.
Jun 16, 2011 11:20am
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Jun 16, 2011 11:29 AM
lhslep134;804432 wrote:Luongo. Lebron at least was passing and playing defense even if he wasn't scoring, but Luongo had only one job and couldn't do it.

+1
Jun 16, 2011 11:29am
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Jun 16, 2011 11:41 AM
Luongo also posted 2 shutouts, which were absolutely huge because Vancouver only scored 1 goal in each game.

Considering they scored 1 goal or less in 5 of the 7 games, I would say the attackers were bigger goats than him.
Jun 16, 2011 11:41am
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Jun 16, 2011 11:44 AM
Mulva;804450 wrote:Luongo also posted 2 shutouts, which were absolutely huge because Vancouver only scored 1 goal in each game.

Considering they scored 1 goal or less in 5 of the 7 games, I would say the attackers were bigger goats than him.

I agree with this. Sedins and Kesler were ghosts
Jun 16, 2011 11:44am
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Jun 16, 2011 1:26 PM
Raw Dawgin' it;804454 wrote:I agree with this. Sedins and Kesler were ghosts

That's why I'd pick LeBron. Luongo had some WOAT-tastic performances in Vancouver's losses, but the lack of offensive help he generally got pretty much meant that he'd have to be near-perfect (if not perfect) for his team to win games. And with the two shutout wins, you could say he was the biggest reason this series went seven games.

For Miami, in reverse order:
Game 6: 21-4-6 (six TOs). No one scored more points than him for Miami, but he was -24 in the +/- stat, showing that Miami's best runs came with him out of the game.

Game 5: 17-10-10 (four TOs). Solid game...if you discount how he turned invisible in the final six minutes. This is when Dallas went on a run to end the game.

Game 4: 8-9-7 (four TOs). Basically the equal of Luongo getting shelled in the first and then pulled from a game, although James got 45 minutes.

Game 3: 17-3-9 (four TOs). This was a win for Miami. Wade led them in scoring and Bosh had one more than James. He was the facilitator with nine assists and did good in that role.

Game 2: 20-8-4 (five TOs). This was the game where Wade scored 36 points and it looked like Miami would cruise to the win until James dominated the offense late and Dallas came back.

Game 1: 24-9-5 (one TO). Best game of the series for him. In the one game they won somewhat easily. Possibly the most damning thing in comparing him to Luongo, as you'd have to wonder what the Heat would have done if James has simply maintained an efficient, consistent performance (that's a good stat line, but not "superstar taking over" one). With Luongo, he won two 1-0 games and a 3-2 game. He tended to get blown up in the losses, but got no more than two goals of support in regulation in any of the seven games (the 3-2 one was an OT win). That's just brutal for anyone to overcome.
Jun 16, 2011 1:26pm