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Backdoor Draft...........oh boy

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Belly35

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Dec 7, 2009 2:21 AM
Listen and learn ...... 18-25



The draft is back.........
Dec 6, 2009 9:21pm
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dwccrew

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Dec 7, 2009 4:19 AM
Not that I agree with it, because I don't, but this is not a draft in the historical sense of the term.

It would be a civilian national service. They wouldn't be getting shipped overseas, from what I understand of it.

However, no one should be forced to serve in anything in this country. That is what this country is about, the ability to make your own choices as long as it doesn't effect or harm others.
Dec 6, 2009 11:19pm
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KevinJr

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Dec 7, 2009 4:45 AM
Not going to happen.

Rahm Emmanuel may think it's a great idea (and President Obama may as well), but there is no way in hell any Congressman (or woman) would get behind this legislation. It would be political suicide.

AND there is no doubt it would have to be legislation - Obama would cost himself the 2012 election if he tried to enforce it through a Presidential order or some other circumvention of the legislative branch of government.

If he is going to blow a second term, I guarantee he goes for something much bigger (health care, climate change) than a back door draft.
Dec 6, 2009 11:45pm
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CenterBHSFan

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Dec 7, 2009 2:20 PM
Yeah, I can't see the American people putting up with this for a minute.
Riots!
Dec 7, 2009 9:20am
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cbus4life

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Dec 7, 2009 2:33 PM
So far from actually happening it isn't even worth thinking about.

Crazy ol' Rahm.
Dec 7, 2009 9:33am
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King Curtis

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Dec 7, 2009 5:28 PM
^^^

Keep thinking that

This won't happen though
Dec 7, 2009 12:28pm
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GeneralsIcer89

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Dec 7, 2009 6:53 PM
If it does, I'll gladly flee to Canada.
Dec 7, 2009 1:53pm
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ptown_trojans_1

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Dec 7, 2009 6:57 PM
*Yawn*

Until we see actual movement on this, it is nothing.
Dec 7, 2009 1:57pm
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CenterBHSFan

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Dec 7, 2009 10:11 PM
ptown_trojans_1 wrote: *Yawn*

Until we see actual movement on this, it is nothing.

Is everything a President (not just Obama) discusses with his advisors/cabinet/staff available to the public?
That doesn't mean that things aren't being discussed. It doesn't mean that initial/introductory speeches aren't being drafted.

Personally, I think if Obama really wanted to "try" and implement something like this, he missed the boat = during his honeymoon period. It's too late for him to try shenanigans of this type now. He's already neck-deep in it.
Dec 7, 2009 5:11pm
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ptown_trojans_1

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Dec 7, 2009 10:24 PM
CenterBHSFan wrote:
ptown_trojans_1 wrote: *Yawn*

Until we see actual movement on this, it is nothing.

Is everything a President (not just Obama) discusses with his advisors/cabinet/staff available to the public?
That doesn't mean that things aren't being discussed. It doesn't mean that initial/introductory speeches aren't being drafted.
Pretty much. Leaks, reports, and general interviews over time reveal what goes on inside the WH and Oval Office. It is not immediate knowledge, but over time we can get a picture of things.
Dec 7, 2009 5:24pm
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CenterBHSFan

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Dec 7, 2009 10:29 PM
^^ I can agree with that, too!

*EDIT

BTW, nice quote! haha
Dec 7, 2009 5:29pm
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The Equalizer

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Dec 7, 2009 10:48 PM
Obama already talked about doing this during the campaign. A domestic security force which needs to be "as well armed and funded as the military."

Hey, at least he's learning from history, right?

Dec 7, 2009 5:48pm
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CenterBHSFan

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Dec 7, 2009 11:23 PM
I just don't think that when Obama said that, he really thought about what a beast a group like that can grow into. Those kinds of groups can get out of hand quickly.
Ask some of the Ceasars of Rome...
Dec 7, 2009 6:23pm
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BCSbunk

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Dec 7, 2009 11:29 PM
I doubt that will come to fruition, and the people should be up in arms if they try to force that on them.
Dec 7, 2009 6:29pm
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CenterBHSFan

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Dec 7, 2009 11:41 PM
BCSbunk wrote: I doubt that will come to fruition, and the people should be up in arms if they try to force that on them.
Agree. I think there will be riots in every city the likes the world hasn't seen since ....well... well, think Rodney King riots x 1,000,000
Dec 7, 2009 6:41pm
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The Equalizer

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Dec 8, 2009 12:24 AM
And the people who protest would be put down and made to look like they're the crazies in the mainstream press who would do the administration's beck and call. Remember, if you protest about the size of the government, you're the true extremist.
Dec 7, 2009 7:24pm
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Dec 8, 2009 3:43 AM
Dec 7, 2009 10:43pm
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cbus4life

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Dec 8, 2009 4:14 AM
The Equalizer wrote: And the people who protest would be put down and made to look like they're the crazies in the mainstream press who would do the administration's beck and call. Remember, if you protest about the size of the government, you're the true extremist.
No, you made yourself look like a "crazy" by using the Nazi propaganda poster in reference to Obama/Obama's policies.
Dec 7, 2009 11:14pm
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The Equalizer

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Dec 8, 2009 2:59 PM
Well maybe you're okay with a civilian para military organization being set up which is as well funded and armed as the pentagon, I'm not. But I do know who can be signed up as the first two commanders for Obama's army....



why, we can use these fine gentlemen from the Black Panthers. They already have expertise in crowd control as seen when they were "protecting" the Philadelphia polling place in 2008. Of course they're in the clear too since the Obama Justice Dept decided not to investigate any voter intimidation charges. It seems like a perfect solution, don't you think?
Dec 8, 2009 9:59am
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dwccrew

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Dec 9, 2009 7:52 AM
The Equalizer wrote: Well maybe you're okay with a civilian para military organization being set up which is as well funded and armed as the pentagon, I'm not. But I do know who can be signed up as the first two commanders for Obama's army....



why, we can use these fine gentlemen from the Black Panthers. They already have expertise in crowd control as seen when they were "protecting" the Philadelphia polling place in 2008. Of course they're in the clear too since the Obama Justice Dept decided not to investigate any voter intimidation charges. It seems like a perfect solution, don't you think?

I fail to see your point. Are you comparing Emmanuel's idea to the Black Panther's? A sanctioned, government trained para militia to the Black Panthers? LOL, hahahahaha
Dec 9, 2009 2:52am
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The Equalizer

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Dec 9, 2009 12:54 PM
No, I'm saying those are some of the types who will be included in obama's security force. A few of his advisors are already on record as viewing early prison release in order to partake in "community service" as a big issue for social justice.
Dec 9, 2009 7:54am