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Big Gain
Posts: 2,073
Jun 8, 2011 6:49pm
The Freshman Rule did not exist when LeBron was coming out of high school. LeBron always said that if he had to go to college he would have gone to Ohio State. He would have done more damage to Ohio State basketball 1 year than Pryor did to Ohio State football in 3.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Jun 8, 2011 11:01pm
But they would have a title.
Terry_Tate
Posts: 7,606
Jun 8, 2011 11:14pm
Laley23;795493 wrote:But they would have a title.
Only if they had a real leader on the team.
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Jun 9, 2011 9:22am
Imagine college basketball the next year without it.
Josh Smith to Indiana
Dwight Howard to Georgia Tech
Al Jefferson to Arkansas
Shaun Livingston to Duke
J.R. Smith to North Carolina
Sebastian Telfair to Louisville
Dorrell Wright to DePaul
Robert Swift to USC
Would have been a totally different season. The what-if's could apply to so many seasons as well.
Josh Smith to Indiana
Dwight Howard to Georgia Tech
Al Jefferson to Arkansas
Shaun Livingston to Duke
J.R. Smith to North Carolina
Sebastian Telfair to Louisville
Dorrell Wright to DePaul
Robert Swift to USC
Would have been a totally different season. The what-if's could apply to so many seasons as well.
Iliketurtles
Posts: 8,191
Jun 9, 2011 9:44am
Just imagine what some of these guys pro careers would have been if they did go to college.Azubuike24;795799 wrote:Imagine college basketball the next year without it.
Josh Smith to Indiana
Dwight Howard to Georgia Tech
Al Jefferson to Arkansas
Shaun Livingston to Duke
J.R. Smith to North Carolina
Sebastian Telfair to Louisville
Dorrell Wright to DePaul
Robert Swift to USC
Would have been a totally different season. The what-if's could apply to so many seasons as well.
OSH
Posts: 4,145
Jun 9, 2011 9:53am
Iliketurtles;795823 wrote:Just imagine what some of these guys pro careers would have been if they did go to college.
I don't blame a single one of them for going and getting a paycheck.
They may have never made it to the NBA (and their paycheck) if they went to college.
Good for them for reaching their goal of being a professional basketball player.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Jun 9, 2011 12:59pm
Iliketurtles;795823 wrote:Just imagine what some of these guys pro careers would have been if they did go to college.
Josh Smith, Howard, Jefferson, and JR Smith all probably reached what they would have anyway. Livingston would have, but the injury killed his career (what if it was at Duke?). Telfair, Wright, and Swift I do think would have benefited from college and consistent playing time. But the others were going to be playing plenty in the NBA, so they were gonna reach their ceiling regardless.
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Jun 9, 2011 6:01pm
I think Dorrell Wright was okay in the NBA. He probably reached what he would have been regardless. As for Robert Swift, the guy never had the body to become a factor in the NBA, so that probably didn't matter either. Telfair is interesting, but nothing about Rick Pitino's history of putting players in the NBA at Louisville makes me believe his career would've been any different. Telfair was simply NYC hype.
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ironman02
Posts: 4,989
Jun 9, 2011 8:40pm
Dwight Howard was headed to Georgia Tech? Didn't know that.
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Jun 9, 2011 10:45pm
Laley23;795493 wrote:But they would have a title.
What makes you say that?
Iliketurtles
Posts: 8,191
Jun 10, 2011 12:07am
Laley23;796059 wrote:Josh Smith, Howard, Jefferson, and JR Smith all probably reached what they would have anyway. Livingston would have, but the injury killed his career (what if it was at Duke?). Telfair, Wright, and Swift I do think would have benefited from college and consistent playing time. But the others were going to be playing plenty in the NBA, so they were gonna reach their ceiling regardless.
Yeah that is why I said some I definitely think guys like Livingston and Telfair would have been way better off going to college. But I agree that injury did kill his career maybe I just had high hopes of him going to Duke and really wish he would have gone.
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Jun 10, 2011 2:48pm
More of an assumption. Randolph Morris picked between UK and GT, and wanted to play with Dwight. Would've likely gone to GT had Dwight gone to GT. However, I don't think Dwight was ever really serious about even considering college, so it was never a college/pro dramatic decision. He could have very well gone elsewhere and I'm sure half-a-dozen schools will claim he was headed there had he not gone to the NBA. The same as people say LeBron was going to Ohio State, whereas reality knows he never really considered college. I know some Kentucky fans claim Dirk Nowitzki, Tracy McGrady and Shawn Kemp, even though there is no concrete proof.ironman02;796506 wrote:Dwight Howard was headed to Georgia Tech? Didn't know that.
Iliketurtles
Posts: 8,191
Jun 10, 2011 3:35pm
Azubuike24;797815 wrote:More of an assumption. Randolph Morris picked between UK and GT, and wanted to play with Dwight. Would've likely gone to GT had Dwight gone to GT. However, I don't think Dwight was ever really serious about even considering college, so it was never a college/pro dramatic decision. He could have very well gone elsewhere and I'm sure half-a-dozen schools will claim he was headed there had he not gone to the NBA. The same as people say LeBron was going to Ohio State, whereas reality knows he never really considered college. I know some Kentucky fans claim Dirk Nowitzki, Tracy McGrady and Shawn Kemp, even though there is no concrete proof.
Lebron probably would have gone to OSU or Duke if he did ever consider it. As for Howard yeah I really don't remember hearing his name about any college because he never really considered it.
OSH
Posts: 4,145
Jun 10, 2011 3:35pm
Azubuike24;797815 wrote: know some Kentucky fans claim Dirk Nowitzki, Tracy McGrady and Shawn Kemp, even though there is no concrete proof.
He signed a LOI to play at UK...how is that not concrete proof? He left the school in November and transferred to Trinity Valley CC.
That's pretty easy to follow. I am sure the Sutton's can vouch for Kemp...
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dave
Posts: 4,558
Jun 10, 2011 7:28pm
Lebron would not have been eligible, would have gone to Europe.
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mallymal614
Posts: 3,746
Jun 11, 2011 9:28pm
I'm not so sure Lebron would have went to Ohio State. If Thad Matta was the coach in 2003 it would have almost been a locked. But when Jim O'Brien was running the show, a lot of good talent left the state because of O'Brien's (or lack of) recruiting.
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sportswizuhrd
Posts: 3,215
Jun 12, 2011 7:12am
The UConn team that lost to George Mason would have had Andrew Bynum in the post.
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sportswizuhrd
Posts: 3,215
Jun 12, 2011 7:17am
Others from the 2005 Class.
Martell Webster (Washington)
Gerald Green (Oklahoma State)
C.J. Miles (Texas)
Martellus Bennett (Texas A&M) went to A&M and now the Dallas Cowboys.
Louis Williams (Georgia)
Brandon Rush (unsigned) went to Kansas
Amir Johnson (Louisville)
Monta Ellis (Mississippi State)
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2059932
Martell Webster (Washington)
Gerald Green (Oklahoma State)
C.J. Miles (Texas)
Martellus Bennett (Texas A&M) went to A&M and now the Dallas Cowboys.
Louis Williams (Georgia)
Brandon Rush (unsigned) went to Kansas
Amir Johnson (Louisville)
Monta Ellis (Mississippi State)
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2059932
Classyposter58
Posts: 6,321
Jun 12, 2011 12:54pm
You wanna know maybe the craziest stat? D Rose would be a senior at Memphis this year. Could you imagine if he stayed all 4 years the numbers he'd be putting up...especially in C-USA
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Jun 12, 2011 5:16pm
Imagine a team with Derrick Rose, Tyreke Evans, John Wall and Brandon Knight on it?
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Big Gain
Posts: 2,073
Jun 12, 2011 7:43pm
LeBron has always said if the Freshman Rule had been in place he would have gone to Ohio State.
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sportchampps
Posts: 7,361
Jun 12, 2011 9:21pm
Dirk Nowitzki i thought i read really wanted to go to kansas but they cancelled on him at the last minute
Writerbuckeye
Posts: 4,745
Jun 12, 2011 9:21pm
I also don't believe Lebron would have been eligible for college basketball. There was too much smoke surrounding him for there not to have been some fire all through his high school career.
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Al Bundy
Posts: 4,180
Jun 14, 2011 10:51am
Writerbuckeye;799853 wrote:I also don't believe Lebron would have been eligible for college basketball. There was too much smoke surrounding him for there not to have been some fire all through his high school career.
I think you are correct. He was given a hummer, and he was suspended by ohsaa for receiving throwback uniforms. He was receiving gifts and handouts long before college.
dwccrew
Posts: 7,817
Jun 29, 2011 12:46am
If Lebron went to Ohio State he would have been regular season MVP and come March he would've choked up like a little biatch.