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Apr 20, 2012 5:42 AM
BoatShoes;1147362 wrote:Believe it or not I voted for President Bush in 04' and I don't think he's evil rotten scum. But, his lame executive order did not pop any oil speculation market and cause the drop in oil prices. To think it did and say "it is undeniable" is willful blindness plain and simple. It's all about worldwide supply and demand.

President Bush's executive order had nothing to do with the drop in oil prices. Find me one serious economist who thinks so.
What constitutes a "serious" economist? ;)
Apr 20, 2012 5:42am
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Apr 20, 2012 10:25 AM
fish82;1148520 wrote:Sounds like Christie isn't ruling it out either. That would be interesting.
I personally would love the vice-presidential debate between Biden and Christie.

Two buttoned down nerdy types in Romney and Obama and two enemies of prepared remarks in Biden and Christie. Would make great T.V.
Apr 20, 2012 10:25am
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Apr 20, 2012 10:25 AM
fish82;1148519 wrote:What constitutes a "serious" economist? ;)

Paul Krugman .............. apparently


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Apr 20, 2012 10:25am
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Apr 20, 2012 10:35 AM
QuakerOats;1148633 wrote:Paul Krugman .............. apparently


:laugh:
No economist from the Bush administration would say that an executive order that had no effect on the supply of oil did anything to cause the drop in oil prices.
Apr 20, 2012 10:35am
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Apr 20, 2012 10:55 AM
BoatShoes;1148631 wrote:I personally would love the vice-presidential debate between Biden and Christie.

Two buttoned down nerdy types in Romney and Obama and two enemies of prepared remarks in Biden and Christie. Would make great T.V.
Agreed. Biden/Christie would be Thunderdome.
Apr 20, 2012 10:55am
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Apr 20, 2012 11:37 AM
lmfao at Bush deflating the oil bubble
Apr 20, 2012 11:37am
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Apr 20, 2012 2:05 PM
believer;1144220 wrote:Y-Town asked if gas prices are affected in any way by the POTUS. I simply pointed out that it is possible.

Can Obama or the gubmint control gas prices? In general, no.

Sure they can. Ever hear of Pemex?

Not serious about a government takeover of the gasoline industry, but in Mexico you don't have to shop around for the lowest price.
Apr 20, 2012 2:05pm
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Apr 20, 2012 6:20 PM
stlouiedipalma;1148913 wrote:Sure they can. Ever hear of Pemex?

Not serious about a government takeover of the gasoline industry, but in Mexico you don't have to shop around for the lowest price.
True. Maybe that's a good reason to open our southern border?
Apr 20, 2012 6:20pm
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Apr 23, 2012 10:50 AM
Read this this morning. Note: Two traditional R's, and two of the most respected thinkers in the foreign policy realm. Scrowcroft is widely considered the best National Security Adviser under HW Bush. Both of them supported the New START Treaty, and future reductions. All of which Romney opposes all together.
The fact that Romney is out of step with the traditional foreign policy thinkers in the R field is why I cannot support him thus far.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/nuclear-weapon-reductions-must-be-part-of-strategic-analysis/2012/04/22/gIQAKG4iaT_story.html
Apr 23, 2012 10:50am
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Apr 23, 2012 1:08 PM
ptown_trojans_1;1150594 wrote:Read this this morning. Note: Two traditional R's, and two of the most respected thinkers in the foreign policy realm. Scrowcroft is widely considered the best National Security Adviser under HW Bush. Both of them supported the New START Treaty, and future reductions. All of which Romney opposes all together.
The fact that Romney is out of step with the traditional foreign policy thinkers in the R field is why I cannot support him thus far.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/nuclear-weapon-reductions-must-be-part-of-strategic-analysis/2012/04/22/gIQAKG4iaT_story.html
How about Obama out of step with traditional America in general? :D You support that?
What aspect of this Obama Administration as demostrated any succussful agenda in the past 3 years? You support proven failure?
:D

PT1 Respectfully ....... Obama a failure and you can't sugar coat the truth
Apr 23, 2012 1:08pm
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Apr 23, 2012 5:30 PM
Belly35;1150723 wrote:Obama a failure....
No question about it. Why anyone - besides welfare sheeple, hard core leftists, blacks, and staunch Dems - would consider giving Obama 4 more years is incomprehensible to me.
Apr 23, 2012 5:30pm
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Apr 23, 2012 9:52 PM
believer;1150962 wrote:No question about it. Why anyone - besides welfare sheeple, hard core leftists, blacks, and staunch Dems - would consider giving Obama 4 more years is incomprehensible to me.
I know Obama has massive debts, a wasteful stimulus, out-of-control Justice, HHS, Homeland Security, Treasury, and Labor Departments, and Obamacare as weights around his neck.

But Romney's radical policies toward Tajikistan and Zambia are really concerning to me. No way can I vote for that guy. :rolleyes:
Apr 23, 2012 9:52pm
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Apr 23, 2012 10:04 PM
Since it is all but certain that Romney is going to be the canidate, can we close this thread and start a new one?
Apr 23, 2012 10:04pm
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Apr 23, 2012 11:10 PM
dwccrew;1151209 wrote:Since it is all but certain that Romney is going to be the canidate, can we close this thread and start a new one?
Willard vs Barry 2012
Apr 23, 2012 11:10pm
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Apr 24, 2012 12:06 AM
dwccrew;1151209 wrote:Since it is all but certain that Romney is going to be the canidate, can we close this thread and start a new one?
This will be valuable in November when the regret and anger among Republicans about their choice sets in.
Apr 24, 2012 12:06am
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Apr 24, 2012 4:09 AM
2kool4skool;1151270 wrote:This will be valuable in November when the regret and anger among Republicans about their choice sets in.
WTF are you talking about? Repubs are already regretting Mitt's nomination....but there's no way in hell Obama's a better choice.
Apr 24, 2012 4:09am
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Apr 24, 2012 4:44 AM
jhay78;1151195 wrote:But Romney's radical policies toward Tajikistan and Zambia are really concerning to me. No way can I vote for that guy. :rolleyes:
I know what you mean. Romney has other radical ideas too. For example he was quoted as saying, "The American economy is fueled by freedom. Free people and their free enterprises are what drive our economic vitality."

No way I can support someone who thinks like that. ;)
Apr 24, 2012 4:44am
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Apr 24, 2012 4:47 AM
jhay78;1151195 wrote:But Romney's radical policies toward Tajikistan and Zambia are really concerning to me. No way can I vote for that guy. :rolleyes:
I know what you mean. Romney has other radical ideas too. For example he was quoted as saying, "The American economy is fueled by freedom. Free people and their free enterprises are what drive our economic vitality."

No way I can support someone who thinks like that. ;)
2kool4skool;1151270 wrote:This will be valuable in November when the regret and anger among Republicans about their choice sets in.

WTF are you talking about? Repubs already regret that Mitt's our best option...but there's no way in hell Obama's a better choice.
Apr 24, 2012 4:47am
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Apr 24, 2012 11:26 AM
believer;1151290 wrote:I know what you mean. Romney has other radical ideas too. For example he was quoted as saying, "The American economy is fueled by freedom. Free people and their free enterprises are what drive our economic vitality."

No way I can support someone who thinks like that. ;)
Pretty sure that one little sentiment has been shared by a few Republican candidates. Probably why he said it: It's trendy in Republican circles to accentuate that (not without justification). But the guy's track record doesn't seem so "free enterprise friendly." Well, except when he himself was in the private sector.
Apr 24, 2012 11:26am
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Apr 24, 2012 3:18 PM
believer;1151290 wrote:WTF are you talking about? Repubs already regret that Mitt's our best option...but there's no way in hell Obama's a better choice.
I'm talking about when Romney loses the election, this thread can serve the purpose of "if only we'd nominated ___ we would have won!!!"

Though none of the other candidates have a better chance(save for Huntsman who was never a realistic possibility) I expect that to be the common line of thinking.
Apr 24, 2012 3:18pm
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Apr 24, 2012 3:25 PM
2kool4skool;1151784 wrote:I'm talking about when Romney loses the election, this thread can serve the purpose of "if only we'd nominated ___ we would have won!!!"

Though none of the other candidates have a better chance(save for Huntsman who was never a realistic possibility) I expect that to be the common line of thinking.
No, I expect the common line of thinking be "America is even dumber than I thought to double-down on Obama". An actual cold bowl of soup literally should be capable of beating Obama. Now if Obama pegs Hillary as his VP, then maybe it's somewhat understandable for people to take a flier on the Ted Nugent long-shot.

And this thread would never be able to rival the post-election Obama threads in 2008 for pure comedic gold.
Apr 24, 2012 3:25pm
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Apr 24, 2012 3:44 PM
gut;1151791 wrote:No, I expect the common line of thinking be "America is even dumber than I thought to double-down on Obama".
The political death sentence. "The only reason we could lose, is if people are stupid." :laugh:

Dems thought the same thing in 04, and they got beaten by an atrocious incumbent. Same thing will happen to the Republicans in 12.
Now if Obama pegs Hillary as his VP, then maybe it's somewhat understandable for people to take a flier on the Ted Nugent long-shot.
Classy
Apr 24, 2012 3:44pm