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tk421

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Jan 31, 2012 3:40 AM
as long as special interests and jails continue to be big business, I don't care who is in office it isn't going to change.
Jan 31, 2012 3:40am
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Jan 31, 2012 5:07 AM
Footwedge;1070665 wrote:Newt just went off a yellin at the media.
Sounds like my kinda guy. ;)
Jan 31, 2012 5:07am
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Con_Alma

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Jan 31, 2012 5:31 AM
I Wear Pants;1070894 wrote:

Which one of the Republicans would do anything about that? It's not Newt, Mittens, or Frothy.
Were all those people unfairly jailed? Did they not break laws which had jail time sentences associated with them?

Shouldn't we be outraged at the amount of crime as opposed to the amount of jail time that is handed out in this country?
Jan 31, 2012 5:31am
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Jan 31, 2012 5:48 AM
Footwedge;1070668 wrote:So who wins? The closet liberal acting like a conservative or the closet liberal acting like a conservative?
As of today, it's a toss-up.
Jan 31, 2012 5:48am
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Jan 31, 2012 5:52 AM
fish82;1070936 wrote:As of today, it's a toss-up.
And only 10 more months to go! ;)
Jan 31, 2012 5:52am
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queencitybuckeye

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Jan 31, 2012 6:14 AM
Con_Alma;1070933 wrote:Were all those people unfairly jailed? Did they not break laws which had jail time sentences associated with them?

Shouldn't we be outraged at the amount of crime as opposed to the amount of jail time that is handed out in this country?
Perhaps we should be concerned that we spend an enormous amount for highly questionable results. It's reasonably clear that "more jail less crime" is not a realistic mantra.
Jan 31, 2012 6:14am
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Jan 31, 2012 6:38 AM
believer;1070939 wrote:And only 10 more months to go! ;)
I know. Just shoot me now.
Jan 31, 2012 6:38am
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I Wear Pants

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Jan 31, 2012 6:51 AM
Con_Alma;1070933 wrote:Were all those people unfairly jailed? Did they not break laws which had jail time sentences associated with them?

Shouldn't we be outraged at the amount of crime as opposed to the amount of jail time that is handed out in this country?
We jail more people than fucking Russia dude.

We have more shitty laws that are enforced, not more shitty people committing crimes. Wake up.
Jan 31, 2012 6:51am
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Con_Alma

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Jan 31, 2012 6:58 AM
I Wear Pants;1070952 wrote:We jail more people than ****ing Russia dude.

We have more ****ty laws that are enforced, not more ****ty people committing crimes. Wake up.
We are a land of laws. If we don't enforce the laws we have greater issues than weak laws populating the jails and prisons.

Follow the laws or get them changed but complaining about being punished for the laws in place is worthless.
Jan 31, 2012 6:58am
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Jan 31, 2012 4:10 PM
Con_Alma;1070954 wrote:We are a land of laws. If we don't enforce the laws we have greater issues than weak laws populating the jails and prisons.

Follow the laws or get them changed but complaining about being punished for the laws in place is worthless.
The problem are the laws and our system.

The attitude you're taking is that there is no problem.
Jan 31, 2012 4:10pm
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queencitybuckeye

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Jan 31, 2012 4:59 PM
I Wear Pants;1071536 wrote:The problem are the laws and our system.
Agree in part with the former, less so with the latter. In what way is the problem "the system"?
Jan 31, 2012 4:59pm
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Jan 31, 2012 7:50 PM
Half the Florida precincts reporting:

Mitt 49%
Newt 30%
Rick 13%
Ron 7%
Jan 31, 2012 7:50pm
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Jan 31, 2012 8:08 PM
fish82;1071634 wrote:Half the Florida precincts reporting:

Mitt 49%
Newt 30%
Rick 13%
Ron 7%
Rick and Ron need to bow out.
Jan 31, 2012 8:08pm
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Jan 31, 2012 8:27 PM
believer;1071645 wrote:Rick and Ron need to bow out.
Ron spent $0 and 0 time in Florida. The results aren't surprising at all, the two with the most corporate money were at the top.
Jan 31, 2012 8:27pm
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sjmvsfscs08

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Jan 31, 2012 9:21 PM
Iowa: Rick Santorum
New Hampshire: Mitt Romney
South Carolina: Newt Gingrich
Florida: Mitt Romney



February primaries/caucuses...

Nevada: Romney
Maine: Romney
Colorado: ??
Minnesota: ??
Arizona: ??
Michigan: Romney

Honestly I see Romney winning Nevada (Mormons), Maine (close to MA), and Michigan (father) running away.

Any predictions? I do have the states right, right?
Jan 31, 2012 9:21pm
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Jan 31, 2012 9:23 PM
sjmvsfscs08;1071677 wrote:Iowa: Rick Santorum
New Hampshire: Mitt Romney
South Carolina: Newt Gingrich
Florida: Mitt Romney



February primaries/caucuses...

Nevada: Romney
Maine: Romney
Colorado: ??
Minnesota: ??
Arizona: ??
Michigan: Romney

Honestly I see Romney winning Nevada (Mormons), Maine (close to MA), and Michigan (father) running away.

Any predictions? I do have the states right, right?
And I see Obama winning all those in the presidential election.
Jan 31, 2012 9:23pm
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Jan 31, 2012 9:26 PM
queencitybuckeye;1071568 wrote:Agree in part with the former, less so with the latter. In what way is the problem "the system"?
We have a penal system that has a clear incentive to want to have more people incarcerated.

And I watched some of Newt's speech and I wanted to puke on the TV.
Jan 31, 2012 9:26pm
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sjmvsfscs08

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Jan 31, 2012 9:27 PM
sleeper;1071681 wrote:And I see Obama winning all those in the presidential election.
I think Romney will win Nevada, Minnesota, and Michigan.
Jan 31, 2012 9:27pm
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sjmvsfscs08

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Jan 31, 2012 9:28 PM
I Wear Pants;1071683 wrote:We have a penal system that has a clear incentive to want to have more people incarcerated.
And if I ever get ticketed for driving in the left lane without passing you can be sure as hell I will be one of them before I give a single fucking dollar to the state.
Jan 31, 2012 9:28pm
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Jan 31, 2012 10:07 PM
And I watched some of Newt's speech and I wanted to puke on the TV.

Newt focused squarely on Obama. I didn't find that nauseating at all.
Jan 31, 2012 10:07pm
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Jan 31, 2012 10:26 PM
sjmvsfscs08;1071684 wrote:I think Romney will win Nevada, Minnesota, and Michigan.
Minnesota's electoral votes last went to a Republican in 1972, when the Democrat won 1 state.

Of the three...Nevada is by far the most likely for Romney, followed by Michigan. There are 20 other states that I would put in the 'maybe Romney' category before Minnesota. They're no DC but they're definitely not a Utah.
Jan 31, 2012 10:26pm
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Jan 31, 2012 10:38 PM
sleeper;1071681 wrote:And I see Obama winning all those in the presidential election.
What the hell will Obama do for 4 years if he doesn't have to spend them all campaigning for re-election? MORE golf, lavish vacations and hangin' with celebs?
Jan 31, 2012 10:38pm
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Jan 31, 2012 11:25 PM
I Wear Pants;1071683 wrote:We have a penal system that has a clear incentive to want to have more people incarcerated.

And I watched some of Newt's speech and I wanted to puke on the TV.
When you're a flaming liberal, that will happen.....................
Jan 31, 2012 11:25pm
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Jan 31, 2012 11:41 PM
believer;1070490 wrote:Do you suppose Gingrich can get endorsements from Bill Clinton and John Edwards too?
I suppose he could, but they aren't running, are they? Actually a Clinton endorsement would be fairly ironic, as Newt led the impeachment fight against Slick Willie while he was playing hide the weiner with that blondie who appears on the stage with him all the time. I've always wondered what must have gone through her mind (besides air) when she was willing to be the kept woman in Newt's open marriage proposal. I wonder if Newt will ever let her speak out on the campaign trail.
Jan 31, 2012 11:41pm
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Jan 31, 2012 11:58 PM
believer;1071645 wrote:Rick and Ron need to bow out.
I don't think so. Why should they? The primaries are not over, no need to bow out until a canidate is officially decided.
Jan 31, 2012 11:58pm