killer_ewok
Posts: 11,379
May 10, 2011 4:30pm
1. Rooney Family, Pittsburgh Steelers
2. Robert Kraft, New England Patriots
3. Packers Executive Committee
4. Mara/Tisch, New York Giants
5. Jeffrey Lurie, Philadelphia Eagles
6. Steve Bisciotti, Baltimore Ravens
7. Jim Irsay, Indianapolis Colts
8. Jerry Jones, Dallas Cowboys
9. Arthur Blank, Atlanta Falcons
10. Woody Johnson, New York Jets
http://espn.go.com/blog/afceast/post/_/id/28755/power-rankings-top-10-nfl-owners
2. Robert Kraft, New England Patriots
3. Packers Executive Committee
4. Mara/Tisch, New York Giants
5. Jeffrey Lurie, Philadelphia Eagles
6. Steve Bisciotti, Baltimore Ravens
7. Jim Irsay, Indianapolis Colts
8. Jerry Jones, Dallas Cowboys
9. Arthur Blank, Atlanta Falcons
10. Woody Johnson, New York Jets
http://espn.go.com/blog/afceast/post/_/id/28755/power-rankings-top-10-nfl-owners
like_that
Posts: 26,625
May 10, 2011 4:33pm
Packers Executive Committee takes the cake imo.
Raw Dawgin' it
Posts: 11,466
May 10, 2011 4:36pm
Who the fuck cares about owner....seriously. Cue the pittsburgh fans slobbering over the Rooneys' nut sack for being #1
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Prescott
Posts: 2,569
May 10, 2011 5:13pm
Seems to be a reasonably strong relationship between good owners and successful franchises.Who the fuck cares about owner....seriously.
Terry_Tate
Posts: 7,606
May 10, 2011 5:37pm
No Mike Brown? This list is a joke.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
May 10, 2011 7:41pm
Is there a category for "most hypocritical" ownership?
royal_k
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May 10, 2011 8:15pm
BR1986FB;764380 wrote:Is there a category for "most hypocritical" ownership?
LOL
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
May 10, 2011 8:22pm
BR1986FB;764380 wrote:Is there a category for "most hypocritical" ownership?
lol I know who'd be #1.
Little Danny
Posts: 4,288
May 10, 2011 8:23pm
Raw Dawgin' it;764274 wrote:Who the fuck cares about owner....seriously. Cue the pittsburgh fans slobbering over the Rooneys' nut sack for being #1
Terry Tate's sarcastic post is dead on why one should care about the owners. Mike Brown is one of the bottom five owners in all of sport. He is pig-headed, refuses to listen to advice from former players/owners, refuses to hire a GM and has a 3-4 man scouting department. Carson Palmer has proven you can't even pay players to go there.
Meanwhile, players are begging to play for owners like the Rooneys, Bob Kraft, et al.
killer_ewok
Posts: 11,379
May 10, 2011 8:54pm
Most Browns fans are gonna hate on the Steelers/Rooney's but even you guys should give them their due. Failing to do so proves that you lack any shred of objectivity.
Also, who was one of the owners who voted against Modell moving the team to Baltimore?
Also, who was one of the owners who voted against Modell moving the team to Baltimore?
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
May 10, 2011 9:01pm
killer_ewok;764457 wrote:Most Browns fans are gonna hate on the Steelers/Rooney's but even you guys should give them their due. Failing to do so proves that you lack any shred of objectivity.
Also, who was one of the owners who voted against Modell moving the team to Baltimore?
I didn't question that they have a great business model. In fact, they probably set the standard but they are hypocrites with this "class organization" bullshit they and their fans are trying to pass off on people. No question their business model is great.
killer_ewok
Posts: 11,379
May 10, 2011 9:05pm
BR1986FB;764465 wrote:I didn't question that they have a great business model. In fact, they probably set the standard but they are hypocrites with this "class organization" bullshit they and their fans are trying to pass off on people. No question their business model is great.
I think they do the best they can to keep it as "classy" as possible but they're not dumb. You don't just dump franchise players. Some players are expendable while others aren't. This is, after all (and as you mentioned), a business.
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BR1986FB
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May 10, 2011 9:09pm
killer_ewok;764472 wrote:I think they do the best they can to keep it as "classy" as possible but they're not dumb. You don't just dump franchise players. Some players are expendable while others aren't. This is, after all (and as you mentioned), a business.
Completely understood but I don't want to hear that "class" bullshit from their fans and the media when it's not true.
I'll give em' their due for being successful but it's not like they're any different from any other organization when it comes to malcontents. In fact, for all of the shit Bengals fans had to take during their run of "misfits", Pittsburgh has been worse over the last few years. The Browns are no angels either but the media has portrayed this "chaste/pure" Pittsburgh organization when it's a fallacy.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
May 10, 2011 9:14pm
They are definitely hypocrites, but I can respect the fact they were one of the only organizations that voted for the Browns to stay when the scumbag Art Modell wanted to move.
killer_ewok
Posts: 11,379
May 10, 2011 9:21pm
BR1986FB;764477 wrote:Completely understood but I don't want to hear that "class" bullshit from their fans and the media when it's not true.
I'll give em' their due for being successful but it's not like they're any different from any other organization when it comes to malcontents. In fact, for all of the shit Bengals fans had to take during their run of "misfits", Pittsburgh has been worse over the last few years. The Browns are no angels either but the media has portrayed this "chaste/pure" Pittsburgh organization when it's a fallacy.
I don't think the media covers the Steelers as favorably as you make it sound. At least not the players. Ben's name got ran through the mud due to his horrible judgement (and rightfully so). I think the Rooney's are "classy" and attempt to keep their franchise as clean as possible but in a billion dollar industry such as the NFL....you can keep it only so classy and clean.
Y-Town Steelhound
Posts: 1,388
May 10, 2011 10:10pm
The Rooneys definitely have a good business model and should be credited for wanting to keep the Browns in Cleveland. I will say though that their credibility took a hit in my opinion in how they treated Santonio Holmes compared to how they treated Roethlisberger.
killer_ewok
Posts: 11,379
May 10, 2011 10:36pm
Franchise QB (rare....and already signed to a long term contract) > Very good WR (not rare.....and would have ended up being a FA the following offseason)Y-Town Steelhound;764553 wrote:The Rooneys definitely have a good business model and should be credited for wanting to keep the Browns in Cleveland. I will say though that their credibility took a hit in my opinion in how they treated Santonio Holmes compared to how they treated Roethlisberger.
Made perfect sense from a business standpoint IMO. A tumultuous offseason for Pittsburgh and somebody had to go bye-bye.......and it was the expendable one who they were going to lose regardless because they would not have paid him big $$$. Now, I do think that they would have kept Holmes for the last year of his deal if all of the Ben stuff had not happened prior.
Y-Town Steelhound
Posts: 1,388
May 11, 2011 12:46am
killer_ewok;764586 wrote:Franchise QB (rare....and already signed to a long term contract) > Very good WR (not rare.....and would have ended up being a FA the following offseason)
Made perfect sense from a business standpoint IMO. A tumultuous offseason for Pittsburgh and somebody had to go bye-bye.......and it was the expendable one who they were going to lose regardless because they would not have paid him big $$$. Now, I do think that they would have kept Holmes for the last year of his deal if all of the Ben stuff had not happened prior.
Just kind of a poor way to end things with someone who was pretty vital to them winning a Super Bowl. I agree that QB is more important than receiver, and that they probably wouldn't have paid Holmes since it's not really their style. In reality, it was a better move for Holmes as he'll probably get a big payday from the Jets and still contend for Super Bowls.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
May 11, 2011 9:44am
I just recall the Steelers comments on why they released or traded Holmes. It was something to do with not representing the steelers or the organization in a positive light, hold their players to higher pedestal etc.... Obv as pointed out by other posters, wasn't the case with Ben. Thats the real issue I take, I understand why completely, but its still hypocritical. Plus then you factor in race, etc.. and it doesnt paint the org in a positive light IMO. I dont think they got enough coverage from the media on that angle.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
May 11, 2011 9:49am
My "hypocritical" comments actually revert back to the Cedrick Wilson/James Harrison situation. Granted, Wilson was a two time offender but BOTH beat their girlfriend's. Wilson gets cut, Harrison gets "anger management" and a fat new contract. This happened, I believe, at essentially the same time.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
May 11, 2011 9:52am
Oh great point, I completely forgot about that. I know its the nature of the business but I take offense to the media coverage of the organization. Praise them for winning, not being a "classy" organization.
OSH
Posts: 4,145
May 11, 2011 10:02am
like_that;764271 wrote:Packers Executive Committee takes the cake imo.
AMEN!!!
Super Bowl Champs!!! Team of the Decade!!!
Still living this dream season. Would really like to see the Packers again this fall...
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BR1986FB
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May 11, 2011 10:05am
If it's not the Browns, I'd rather it be a fan base like Green Bay...old schoolOSH;764865 wrote:AMEN!!!
Super Bowl Champs!!! Team of the Decade!!!
Still living this dream season. Would really like to see the Packers again this fall...
OSH
Posts: 4,145
May 11, 2011 10:15am
I love it in Green Bay. Thought about moving there, found a house and a job there...just didn't figure I could actually enjoy living there outside of the NFL season.
I believe going to Green Bay and catching a game in Lambeau is a MUST for any fan.
I believe going to Green Bay and catching a game in Lambeau is a MUST for any fan.
Raw Dawgin' it
Posts: 11,466
May 11, 2011 10:46am
First steeler nut hugger to chime inkiller_ewok;764457 wrote:Most Browns fans are gonna hate on the Steelers/Rooney's but even you guys should give them their due. Failing to do so proves that you lack any shred of objectivity.
Also, who was one of the owners who voted against Modell moving the team to Baltimore?