killer_ewok
                                                                            
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                                May 3, 2011 9:55pm
                            
                        
                                1. Tom Brady, New England Patriots
2. Peyton Manning, Indianapolis Colts
3. Drew Brees, New Orleans Saints
4. Aaron Rodgers, Green Bay Packers
5. Ben Roethlisberger, Pittsburgh Steelers
6. Philip Rivers, San Diego Chargers
7t. Michael Vick, Philadelphia Eagles
7t. Matt Ryan, Atlanta Falcons
9. Eli Manning, New York Giants
10t. Joe Flacco, Baltimore Ravens
10t. Tony Romo, Dallas Cowboys
http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcsouth/post/_/id/20303
                        2. Peyton Manning, Indianapolis Colts
3. Drew Brees, New Orleans Saints
4. Aaron Rodgers, Green Bay Packers
5. Ben Roethlisberger, Pittsburgh Steelers
6. Philip Rivers, San Diego Chargers
7t. Michael Vick, Philadelphia Eagles
7t. Matt Ryan, Atlanta Falcons
9. Eli Manning, New York Giants
10t. Joe Flacco, Baltimore Ravens
10t. Tony Romo, Dallas Cowboys
http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcsouth/post/_/id/20303
killer_ewok
                                                                            
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                                May 3, 2011 10:16pm
                            
                        
                                Pretty good list but I wouldn't have Romo on there.
                            
                        Commander of Awesome
                                                                            
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                                May 3, 2011 10:17pm
                            
                        
                                I'm amazed BSPN managed to keep Sanchez off the list, thankfully. Romo and Eli have no business on the list. Rivers should be higher as well.
                            
                        coyotes22
                                                                            
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                                May 4, 2011 5:29am
                            
                        Commander of Awesome;758841 wrote:I'm amazed BSPN managed to keep Sanchez off the list, thankfully. Romo and Eli have no business on the list. Rivers should be higher as well.
This.
Rivers is a hell of a QB. Id put him ahead of Big Ben
Commander of Awesome
                                                                            
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                                May 4, 2011 8:22am
                            
                        coyotes22;759135 wrote:This.
Rivers is a hell of a QB. Id put him ahead of Big Ben
Agreed, and that's not a knock on Ben, I just think Rivers is a better/more complete QB. Also Mick Vick has one good 12/13 game season and all of a sudden he's a top 7 QB? Please do it for more than one season and we'll talk.
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                                May 4, 2011 8:26am
                            
                        coyotes22;759135 wrote:This.
Rivers is a hell of a QB. Id put him ahead of Big Ben
Everyone ahead of Rivers has a ring or rings. He may be a better passer (Rivers), but until he gets a ring he's not a better QB. And yeah you could say "what about Eli", but Eli's Super Bowl ring came because of his unbelievable defensive effort and one flukey play and you'll be hard pressed to get anyone to say he's anything more than an above average passer and nothing more.
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                                May 4, 2011 8:27am
                            
                        Commander of Awesome;759189 wrote:Please do it for more than one season and we'll talk.
Agreed.
coyotes22
                                                                            
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                                May 4, 2011 8:28am
                            
                        Commander of Awesome;759189 wrote:Agreed, and that's not a knock on Ben, I just think Rivers is a better/more complete QB. Also Mick Vick has one good 12/13 game season and all of a sudden he's a top 7 QB? Please do it for more than one season and we'll talk.
I agree, no knock on Ben, Rivers has a few good years left, and I hope he wins himself a SB, thought he was going to get one this year.
And Vick, if he couldnt run, he wouldnt even be on that list. Sure he can sling it, but he cant do it consistently.
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                                May 4, 2011 9:56am
                            
                        Did you even watch him this season? He barely ran the ball at all, he was threadin needles all over the field. I agree it hasnt been consistent thoughcoyotes22;759198 wrote:I agree, no knock on Ben, Rivers has a few good years left, and I hope he wins himself a SB, thought he was going to get one this year.
And Vick, if he couldnt run, he wouldnt even be on that list. Sure he can sling it, but he cant do it consistently.
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                                May 4, 2011 10:06am
                            
                        
                                I would also have Rogers at the top. If I were starting a team today, he would be my pick.
                            
                        
                                        
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                                May 4, 2011 10:55am
                            
                        
                                Im not a Houston homer (even though it sounds like it) but Matt Schaub is one of the ten best QBs in the game.  He is better than Ryan, Flacco, Eli, and Romo.
                            
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                                May 4, 2011 11:06am
                            
                        
                                My problem with Shuab is that he can't stay healthy for a full season.
                            
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                                May 4, 2011 11:11am
                            
                        georgemc80;759350 wrote:Im not a Houston homer (even though it sounds like it) but Matt Schaub is one of the ten best QBs in the game. He is better than Ryan, Flacco, Eli, and Romo.
Give those 4 QBs Andre Johnson, and they would be doing the same things as Schaub just much better.
                                        
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                                May 4, 2011 11:23am
                            
                        
                                Schaub is a great stat padder but if there's under 2:00 left and you need a win, he wouldn't be my choice. Excellent fantasy football QB, but that's about it IMO.
                            
                        justincredible
                                                                            
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                                May 4, 2011 11:38am
                            
                        BR1986FB;759406 wrote:Schaub is a great stat padder but if there's under 2:00 left and you need a win, he wouldn't be my choice. Excellent fantasy football QB, but that's about it IMO.
Agreed.
Sanchez will be on this list soon enough. He IS a QB I'd want to have the ball with under 2:00 left needing a score to win. He wouldn't be my first choice in that situation but he does excel in it.
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                                May 4, 2011 11:40am
                            
                        justincredible;759428 wrote:Agreed.
Sanchez will be on this list soon enough. He IS a QB I'd want to have the ball with under 2:00 left needing a score to win. He wouldn't be my first choice in that situation but he does excel in it.
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                                                                BR1986FB
                                                                            
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                                May 4, 2011 11:42am
                            
                        justincredible;759428 wrote:Agreed.
Sanchez will be on this list soon enough. He IS a QB I'd want to have the ball with under 2:00 left needing a score to win. He wouldn't be my first choice in that situation but he does excel in it.
I agree with that on Sanchez. Wasn't sold on him at all but he showed me a lot in crucial, game deciding situations. He should only get better.
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                                May 4, 2011 11:51am
                            
                        BR1986FB;759438 wrote:I agree with that on Sanchez. Wasn't sold on him at all but he showed me a lot in crucial, game deciding situations. He should only get better.
He's also young. This past season is only his 3rd season as a starting QB since HS.
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                                May 4, 2011 11:58am
                            
                        
                                I'd agree that on pure talent, Rivers should be near or at the top of the list. I think he's hurt by having no real playoff success to go with his great regular season numbers. And considering the list was compiled by the ENTERTAINMENT Sports Programming Network, the way he tends to come off as a totally unlikeable prick a couple times a year when something goes wrong could have been used against him.
                            
                        
                                        
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                                                                georgemc80
                                                                            
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                                May 4, 2011 1:56pm
                            
                        Commander of Awesome;759375 wrote:My problem with Shuab is that he can't stay healthy for a full season.
36 consecutive starts would seem to debunk that myth.
Over the last two years, there has been 1 occasion where Schaub failed when in that situation. All the others he was plagued by other's failures. '(09 season, two fumbles going into the end zone in the last minute of the game that wins or ties....4 missed FGs that would have won or tied) ('10 season, slant pass to Andre Johnson who inexplicably drops it and kicks it into the air for an interception....the worst defense in history...and a bad interception during overtime against the Ravens)
To address the Johnson argument...Johnson is the best in the league. He is also the main weapon over the last two years with the injury to Owen Daniels. He garners alot of attention. I am hoping the emergence of Arian Foster brings Andre Johnson more yards