osu45804
Posts: 6,188
Apr 8, 2011 4:23pm
http://twitter.com/SI_JoeLemire/status/56450663621726208
Per release, MLB contacted Manny about an issue under its drug program. Manny retired rather than continue with the process.
http://twitter.com/SI_JoeLemire/status/56451366381559808
Per release, MLB contacted Manny about an issue under its drug program. Manny retired rather than continue with the process.
http://twitter.com/SI_JoeLemire/status/56451366381559808
JerseyBuck
Posts: 429
Apr 8, 2011 4:23pm
MLB just sent out a press release. Buster Olney confirmed via twitter
Buster Olney
@Buster_ESPN Buster Olney
Wow: The news from MLB -- Manny Ramirez has retired. More to come.
Buster Olney
@Buster_ESPN Buster Olney
Wow: The news from MLB -- Manny Ramirez has retired. More to come.
gorocks99
Posts: 10,760
Apr 8, 2011 4:24pm
lol wut? Manny being Manny.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Apr 8, 2011 4:31pm
LOL, in true Manny fashion....
osu45804
Posts: 6,188
Apr 8, 2011 4:33pm
Another drug offense of any kind would have resulted in a 100 game suspension for Manny so he decides to retire..... Chances he comes back next year?
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Apr 8, 2011 4:57pm
Haha awesome
Lovejoy1984
Posts: 5,277
Apr 8, 2011 5:08pm
osu45804;736387 wrote:Another drug offense of any kind would have resulted in a 100 game suspension for Manny so he decides to retire..... Chances he comes back next year?
The suspension will still be there, so I doubt there is any chance he comes back.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Apr 8, 2011 5:27pm
Great player or greatest player?
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friendfromlowry
Posts: 6,239
Apr 8, 2011 5:54pm
Manny being retired
jordo212000
Posts: 10,664
Apr 8, 2011 6:42pm
Wonder how he'll try and explain why he was taking women's fertility drugs this time?
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Apr 8, 2011 7:17pm
jordo212000;736463 wrote:Wonder how he'll try and explain why he was taking women's fertility drugs this time?
j_crazy
Posts: 8,372
Apr 8, 2011 9:19pm
The question is will he stop taking steroids now?
Art Modell
Posts: 2,338
Apr 8, 2011 9:32pm
sleeper;736423 wrote:Great player or greatest player?
None of the above.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Apr 8, 2011 10:10pm
Very simple...he was GREAT.....proven to be using roids.......was quite mediocre afterwards....more roids again.
Why people loved him is beyond me.
Multiple times getting drilled for roids....CHECK
Quit completely on a team...for more than 1 team...CHECK
Ridiculously aloof....CHECK
I LOVE to appreciate how great players were....even some who cheated....but I just can't appreciate how great he may have been...can't and won't do it.
I'm glad he has a zillion dollars.
Why people loved him is beyond me.
Multiple times getting drilled for roids....CHECK
Quit completely on a team...for more than 1 team...CHECK
Ridiculously aloof....CHECK
I LOVE to appreciate how great players were....even some who cheated....but I just can't appreciate how great he may have been...can't and won't do it.
I'm glad he has a zillion dollars.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Apr 8, 2011 10:18pm
Ironman92;736565 wrote:Very simple...he was GREAT.....proven to be using roids.......was quite mediocre afterwards....more roids again.
He was also GREAT as a young man, and mediocre as a 35+ year old man. You could make that assumption just as easily.
What Ive always admired is his ability to know what pitch is coming. He guesses more than most guys out there and is often right. He has a tremendous eye, and always hit for a high average. To be quite honest, the last thing I think of when I think of Manny is power. I also loved how he would always get the RBI.
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devil1197
Posts: 6,220
Apr 8, 2011 10:19pm
I liked him when he was with Cleveland, was he on roids then?
I just don't remember him being that lazy and not motivated with the Indians.
I just don't remember him being that lazy and not motivated with the Indians.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Apr 8, 2011 10:26pm
devil1197;736570 wrote:I liked him when he was with Cleveland, was he on roids then?
I just don't remember him being that lazy and not motivated with the Indians.
I was just about to say, I obviously liked him with the Tribe as well. He just went out and played hard, steroids or not. He couldn't speak english at all. When he learned how to speak english, all of a sudden he became very goofy, and started doing stupid shit. He learned the concept of being a prima donna athlete that chases money. I started to hate Manny after he turned down a lucrative deal with the Tribe for another lucrative deal with the sox. I hated the sox even more for it, and my hatred has done nothing but grown for the sox since then. That deal was also when i started to lose respect for Bud Selig, the MLB, and its structure. That was just the beginning of the downfall of baseball imo.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Apr 8, 2011 10:32pm
In Mannys defense on the BoSox deal, its been reported and seems to be true that the Players Union basically forced him into the deal and Manny wanted to stay in Cleveland.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Apr 8, 2011 10:43pm
His numbers and abilities and hitting knowledge were all great and upper echelon.....but I have trouble getting over quitting on teams and the being drilled 2 times for roids alleviates some of his rbi per game seasons in my eyes.
Manny is how awesome you want your son to be.....you just don't want your son to be him or damn near anything about him.
Manny is how awesome you want your son to be.....you just don't want your son to be him or damn near anything about him.
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Footwedge
Posts: 9,265
Apr 8, 2011 11:07pm
Omar Vizquel commented today on Manny....and called him one of the hardest workers...and dedicated players that he ever played with. He wasn't just blowing smoke up Manny's ass...but cited his daily work ethic.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Apr 8, 2011 11:09pm
Footwedge;736603 wrote:Omar Vizquel commented today on Manny....and called him one of the hardest workers...and dedicated players that he ever played with. He wasn't just blowing smoke up Manny's ass...but cited his daily work ethic.
I think most would agree he was a different player completely with the Indians versus all others...
Trueblue23
Posts: 7,463
Apr 9, 2011 12:59am
LOL I'm not even a baseball fan and I'm not surprised.
royal_k
Posts: 4,423
Apr 9, 2011 8:50am
Anyone that says he wasn't a great player is blind or didn't watch him play. He was born to hit and will go down as one of the best RH hitters of all time. I would call that great. The steroids came after he became a great hitter and probably shortened his career and definately ruined his reputation.
HitsRus
Posts: 9,206
Apr 9, 2011 9:08am
Footwedge;736603 wrote:Omar Vizquel commented today on Manny....and called him one of the hardest workers...and dedicated players that he ever played with. He wasn't just blowing smoke up Manny's ass...but cited his daily work ethic.
+1
Manny was a great player and one of the most feared hitters in his day. Sad to see it end this way for him, even if it is his own fault...tragic in the classical sense of the word.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Apr 9, 2011 9:10am
When does everyone believe the steroid use began?