Archive "OSU is Vanderbilt"

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rydawg5

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Mar 24, 2011 4:58pm

I read this on wildcatnation.net or something. Guy said OSU and Vanderbilt are very similar with OSU having an edge in post, but the Vanderbilt is OSU basically..

i dont know much about vandy so what say you?

GOONx19

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Mar 24, 2011 5:01pm

Nobody in the country can shoot like OSU.

SportsAndLady

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Mar 24, 2011 5:02pm

Obviously that's just wrong...but do you really need to post something stupid that you saw on a message board? If I did that, I'd start 100 threads a day.

Azubuike24

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Mar 24, 2011 5:12pm

Especially on college basketball this time a year when the boards are hopping with great discussion (and stupidity).

Sullinger > Ezeli
Lighty = Taylor
Buford = Jenkins (Jenkins better scorer, Buford better all-around)
Craft > Tinsley
Diebler > Tchiengang, Goulbourne, Odom, Walker
Lauderdale > Vanderbilt has nobody else over 6'9 except Tchiengang and he likes to try SG
Thomas > Would start for Vanderbilt at the 4, better than Tchiengang or Goulbourne

It's a dumb comparison by an uneducated UK fan, is all I can gather.

LJ

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Mar 24, 2011 5:16pm

Azubuike24;723028 wrote: Buford = Jenkins (Jenkins better shooter, Buford better all-around)

Buford is statistically a better shooter, just verified it on ESPN

Azubuike24

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Mar 24, 2011 5:24pm

Fixed. Verify that one.

LJ

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Mar 24, 2011 5:33pm

Azubuike24;723035 wrote:Fixed. Verify that one.

Buford isn't asked to be the top scorer. That's obvious with a lower PPG while having a higher shooting percentage.

Azubuike24

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Mar 24, 2011 5:36pm

I made a sweeping statement, you contradicted it using a single stat.

I then changed the statement by referencing another single stat.

Now you respond with deeper explanation on why that single stat doesn't tell the whole story? Oh well, agree to disagree I guess.

I'd say you can argue they are equal players, which doesn't bode well for the idiot who compared OSU and Vanderbilt.

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mallymal614

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Mar 24, 2011 6:40pm

http://kentucky.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=1383&tid=156648632&mid=156648632&sid=888&style=2

LJ

Posts: 16,351

Mar 24, 2011 6:48pm

Azubuike24;723045 wrote:I made a sweeping statement, you contradicted it using a single stat.

How is a sweeping statement when it is easily quantifiable?

I then changed the statement by referencing another single stat.

Ok, so Buford is a better shooter and all around player than Jenkins, but Jenkins is = to Buford? Jenkins is the scorer for Vandy. Sully, Buford and Diebs are considered the scorers for OSU. It's not a one man show.

Now you respond with deeper explanation on why that single stat doesn't tell the whole story? Oh well, agree to disagree I guess.

Seeing as how the players who get >15 mpg for OSU score 2 more PPG than Vandy, I think it shows that the ball is spread around much more for OSU.

I'd say you can argue they are equal players, which doesn't bode well for the idiot who compared OSU and Vanderbilt.

Pretty sure all the draft analysts rank Buford at least 10 spots higher than Jenkins

GOONx19

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Mar 24, 2011 6:50pm

ccrunner609;723049 wrote:Fixed......

Nor the ACC, SEC, Big East, Big 12, or Pac 10.

And if you wanna talk regular FG%, rather than 3, Kansas is still the only team better.

Laley23

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Mar 24, 2011 7:07pm

LJ;723092 wrote:
Pretty sure all the draft analysts rank Buford at least 10 spots higher than Jenkins

Id argue that if both players are being drafted and only 10 spots apart, you can easily say they are equal. By that, it isnt as if 1 player is going to dominate the other 9/10 times like the other comparisons. It would probably be split about 6/4 or 5/5

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rydawg5

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Mar 24, 2011 7:17pm

I just wanted thoughts from those who follow the SEC to see what kind of team Vandy was... if its that dumb just let it drop down the page ..

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cats gone wild

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Mar 24, 2011 7:24pm

Dont agree with what the OP said he read, but Vandy students are smarter than OSU students, lol. And I agree with S&L. I could post a 100 topics about what people say on other message boards.

se-alum

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Mar 24, 2011 7:25pm

I would call Buford and Jenkins pretty much equal.

Ironman92

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Mar 24, 2011 8:25pm

OSU=Vandy

Richmond=Lakers

Azubuike24

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Mar 24, 2011 9:54pm

Jenkins a Sophomore, Buford a Junior.

http://www.nbadraft.net/2011mock_draft (William Buford projected 19th overall his Jr. year)
http://www.nbadraft.net/2012mock_draft (John Jenkins projected 25th overall his Jr. year)

I could bring in the argument that the 2012 draft is going to be much stronger than the 2011 draft, but again, that's another totally different argument.

Equal!!!

sleeper

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Mar 24, 2011 11:10pm

Honestly, OSU's bench would probably beat Vandy 9 games out of 10. Dumb comparison.

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cats gone wild

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Mar 25, 2011 8:31pm

rydawg5;723004 wrote:I read this on wildcatnation.net or something. Guy said OSU and Vanderbilt are very similar with OSU having an edge in post, but the Vanderbilt is OSU basically..

i dont know much about vandy so what say you?

I read this on Yahoo sports about the game tonight. A OSU poster (probably sleeper) wrote this:
"No comparison. OSU is like a NBA team and probably could compete there. This game will be a entire blowout of Kentucky. OSU 82, Kentucky 52."

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Con_Alma

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Mar 25, 2011 8:34pm

"OSU is Vanderbilt"

no, they are Vanderbilt.

GOONx19

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Mar 25, 2011 8:39pm

OSU is singular.

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Con_Alma

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Mar 25, 2011 8:40pm

I was referring to Vanderbilt when using "they".

Rotinaj

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Mar 25, 2011 8:43pm

sleeper;723513 wrote:Honestly, OSU's bench would probably beat Vandy 9 games out of 10. Dumb comparison.

Honestly OSU's bench would lose to Vandy 100 times out of 100.

GOONx19

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Mar 25, 2011 8:44pm

Con_Alma;724573 wrote:I was referring to Vanderbilt when using "they".

Oh. Well that makes much more sense. Carry on.

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Con_Alma

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Mar 25, 2011 8:46pm

It makes perfect sense doesn't it? OSU is not Vanderbilt. That makes no sense. Vanderbilt is Vanderbilt.