
gerb131
Posts: 9,932
Mar 17, 2011 9:19pm
New thread worthy? I'd say so.
Right thing to do should have done it in the first place. They gonna need an extra press box in the shoe for the suspendees.
Right thing to do should have done it in the first place. They gonna need an extra press box in the shoe for the suspendees.

Classyposter58
Posts: 6,321
Mar 17, 2011 9:21pm
gerb131;715846 wrote:New thread worthy? I'd say so.
Right thing to do should have done it in the first place. They gonna need an extra press box in the shoe for the suspendees.
Hahaha put em in the penalty box

LJ
Posts: 16,351
Mar 17, 2011 9:22pm
gerb131;715846 wrote:New thread worthy? I'd say so.
Right thing to do should have done it in the first place. They gonna need an extra press box in the shoe for the suspendees.
They can't be in the stadium for games

gerb131
Posts: 9,932
Mar 17, 2011 9:25pm
LJ;715854 wrote:They can't be in the stadium for games
Better reserve a private room at the Centerfold Club

LJ
Posts: 16,351
Mar 17, 2011 9:27pm
gerb131;715860 wrote:Better reserve a private room at the Centerfold Club
Somewhere higher class than that geez

gerb131
Posts: 9,932
Mar 17, 2011 9:29pm
LJ;715866 wrote:Somewhere higher class than that geez
Top 5 joint in the area imho if ya dont leave your car too far lol
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bigkahuna
Posts: 4,454
Mar 17, 2011 9:29pm
The only question is will this satisfy the NCAA?

ts1227
Posts: 12,319
Mar 17, 2011 9:33pm
bigkahuna;715869 wrote:The only question is will this satisfy the NCAA?
I think it has a decent shot of doing so. The university has always been pretty transparent regarding violations (compared to other big programs), and Tressel is at least owning up to it, even though he fucked up pretty bad. They don't look good, but they have handled it decent.
The only way they come over the top now is if they drill Pearl with something, and feel necessary to on Tressel for the sake of consistency.

HitsRus
Posts: 9,206
Mar 17, 2011 9:38pm
Tressel cares too much about his image. He should have told all the MF's to go pound salt, and left it up to his boss and the NCAA. If the NCAA wants to hit him harder then he should take it 'cause it goes with the job. They make the rules...434 pages worth. Tressel doesn't need to self flagellate. NCAA compliance has enough whips.
http://www.tulsaworld.com/sportsextra/article.aspx?subjectid=2&articleid=20101212_92_B1_CUTLIN686406
http://www.tulsaworld.com/sportsextra/article.aspx?subjectid=2&articleid=20101212_92_B1_CUTLIN686406

2quik4u
Posts: 4,388
Mar 17, 2011 9:53pm
he needs to be suspended the whole year

HitsRus
Posts: 9,206
Mar 17, 2011 10:01pm
^^^^That's exactly what I mean. He should have told you and those like you to stick it up your ass, because it's not your call.
Just sayin'.
Just sayin'.
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elbuckeye28
Posts: 919
Mar 17, 2011 10:08pm
Save for the financial ramifications, Tressel's 5 games suspension is way worse than Pearl's 8 game suspension. Not to mention, Pearl's case is littered with lying and deception.ts1227;715877 wrote:I think it has a decent shot of doing so. The university has always been pretty transparent regarding violations (compared to other big programs), and Tressel is at least owning up to it, even though he fucked up pretty bad. They don't look good, but they have handled it decent.
The only way they come over the top now is if they drill Pearl with something, and feel necessary to on Tressel for the sake of consistency.

ts1227
Posts: 12,319
Mar 17, 2011 10:20pm
elbuckeye28;715950 wrote:Save for the financial ramifications, Tressel's 5 games suspension is way worse than Pearl's 8 game suspension. Not to mention, Pearl's case is littered with lying and deception.
Pearl came clean on his own though. They're not that far apart when it's all said and done.

Art Modell
Posts: 2,338
Mar 17, 2011 10:24pm
2quik4u;715917 wrote:he needs to be suspended the whole year
+1
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elbuckeye28
Posts: 919
Mar 17, 2011 10:25pm
ts1227;715974 wrote:Pearl came clean on his own though. They're not that far apart when it's all said and done.
He only admitted it after he lied, after he tried to get others to lie for him, and it was obvious that the lie wasn't going to work any longer. Not to mention there were other NCAA violations that him and his staff committed that weren't related to that BBQ. Add to the fact the whole Lane Kiffin ordeal(and baseball violations), and I think Tressel's and Pearl's situations are very different.

HitsRus
Posts: 9,206
Mar 17, 2011 10:58pm
You bet they are completely different. But more importantly NCAA punishments are way over the top for the supposed crimes.....and it cost the Universities tons of money. Ohio State has 9 people to pay just to handle the NCAA compliance paperwork. The compliance rulebook is 434 pages long and reads like a Russian novel. Some 18 year old kid screws up and you have a whole dog and pony show complete with drama and press conferences and mea culpa's and suspension and fines reaching into 6 or 7 figures. For what the OSU State players did, a 1 game suspension and repayment of the money to an approved charity would have been more than sufficient. Overly harsh penalties only increase the stakes and lead to the tangled webs of complicity that turn normally good individuals into cheats and liars.
The NCAA has to get a grip on reality and get over itself as judge and executioner. Keep the penalties reasonable and suitable for the 'violation' and the circumstances and a lot of this goes away without unfairness or putting anyone at a competitive disadvatage.
The NCAA has to get a grip on reality and get over itself as judge and executioner. Keep the penalties reasonable and suitable for the 'violation' and the circumstances and a lot of this goes away without unfairness or putting anyone at a competitive disadvatage.
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Mar 17, 2011 10:59pm
I don't know that this was the best thing to do.
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the_system
Posts: 465
Mar 17, 2011 11:00pm
I just question how sincere he is by suspending himself for 5 games. He only did so when it was known that the players couldn't get their 5 games reduced. If they reduced it to 2 games, would he have stayed at 2 games?
This just makes it look like damage control. The NCAA could very well come down harder than the 5 games/250k, only because he is viewed as a leader and should be held to a higher standard.
This just makes it look like damage control. The NCAA could very well come down harder than the 5 games/250k, only because he is viewed as a leader and should be held to a higher standard.
ptown_trojans_1
Posts: 7,632
Mar 17, 2011 11:04pm
I like it. If he is suspended a whole year, then so be it.
I've basically accepted next year is a wash. I'd be extremely happy with a New Year's Bowl game.
I really expect them to lose at least 2 of those 5 and have at least 3 loses by the end of the year.
I've basically accepted next year is a wash. I'd be extremely happy with a New Year's Bowl game.
I really expect them to lose at least 2 of those 5 and have at least 3 loses by the end of the year.
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Mar 17, 2011 11:05pm
To me it looks like a coach/school trying to head off the NCAA from looking too deep by hoping they'll accept the self-imposed sanctions. If I'm the NCAA, an eyebrow was just raised.

Ty Webb
Posts: 2,798
Mar 17, 2011 11:10pm
I see them losing to Miami,Michigan State,Nebraska,and maybe even Colorado if the Buffs play wellptown_trojans_1;716030 wrote:I like it. If he is suspended a whole year, then so be it.
I've basically accepted next year is a wash. I'd be extremely happy with a New Year's Bowl game.
I really expect them to lose at least 2 of those 5 and have at least 3 loses by the end of the year.

DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
Mar 17, 2011 11:15pm
Ty Webb;716040 wrote:I see them losing to Miami,Michigan State,Nebraska,and maybe even Colorado if the Buffs play well
well you are usually wrong, so we really don't care for your view
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bigkahuna
Posts: 4,454
Mar 17, 2011 11:17pm
WebFire;716032 wrote:To me it looks like a coach/school trying to head off the NCAA from looking too deep by hoping they'll accept the self-imposed sanctions. If I'm the NCAA, an eyebrow was just raised.
I kind of feel the same way. I'm not hating, JMO.
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Big Gain
Posts: 2,073
Mar 17, 2011 11:20pm
2quik4u;715917 wrote:he needs to be suspended the whole year
Bruce Pearl wasn't, he was suspended for 25% of Tennessee's games, Tressel is now suspended for almost 40 % of Ohio State games.
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Mar 17, 2011 11:24pm
Big Gain;716058 wrote:Bruce Pearl wasn't, he was suspended for 25% of Tennessee's games, Tressel is now suspended for almost 40 % of Ohio State games.
Yeah, but we all know that makes no difference when it comes to NCAA sanctions. They have no consistency whatsoever it seems.