Pomeroy Rankings

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Cleveland Buck
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Mar 12, 2011 9:46pm
How do you feel about Pomeroy as a tool for ranking teams? Many people feel they are more accurate than the RPI and should be used in evaluating NCAA tournament teams. I was just wondering what the people here think of them.
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sleeper
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Mar 12, 2011 9:47pm
Is Ohio State #1?
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Cleveland Buck
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Mar 12, 2011 9:48pm
Yes
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sleeper
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Mar 12, 2011 9:49pm
Then it must be doing something right. I'm for it.
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Azubuike24
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Mar 12, 2011 10:11pm
I think they are great because they factor in so much information. However, I think they overrate some of the mid-majors. So, technically they are good at ranking a team's "profile or resume", but actually put some of these teams on the court and they aren't as high as KP has them. For example:

16 Utah St.
19 Belmont
25 George Mason

or

51 Colorado
55 Tennessee
92 Memphis

Now, you could put these 6 teams together and there would be almost no difference at all. In fact, Belmont lost to Tennessee twice this year already. Memphis just won C-USA. Colorado just beat one of the hottest teams in the country and hung with #1 Kansas for a good amount of Friday's game.
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swamisez
Posts: 1,990
Mar 13, 2011 12:08am
Love kenpom. Has had the national champion listed pre tournment every year since 04 I think. Great mathematical analysis. Had duke on top last year and was derided. The formula seems pretty accurate.
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Cleveland Buck
Posts: 5,126
Mar 13, 2011 6:11am
Azubuike24;709597 wrote:I think they are great because they factor in so much information. However, I think they overrate some of the mid-majors. So, technically they are good at ranking a team's "profile or resume", but actually put some of these teams on the court and they aren't as high as KP has them. For example:

16 Utah St.
19 Belmont
25 George Mason

or

51 Colorado
55 Tennessee
92 Memphis

Now, you could put these 6 teams together and there would be almost no difference at all. In fact, Belmont lost to Tennessee twice this year already. Memphis just won C-USA. Colorado just beat one of the hottest teams in the country and hung with #1 Kansas for a good amount of Friday's game.

Maybe because it includes efficiency ratings it favors mid majors because it is easier to be efficient against bad teams. I don't know. That's really the only issue I have with it. It's definitely more comprehensive than RPI. Of course, I am biased as Pomeroy's rankings have Ohio State #1 team in the country, the Big Ten the #1 conference in the country, and says the Big Ten has 11 of the top 83 teams in the country.
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dokken
Posts: 230
Mar 13, 2011 5:43pm
Is this some guy ranking teams smoking the Meigs Gold down in Pomeroy, Ohio?