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Mar 4, 2011 9:45 PM
WebFire;699896 wrote:Which is too bad, but when you consider they were 5 true freshmen, then 5 true sophomores...what they did was spectacular.

IMO that will never happen again in college basketball starting 5 true freshman & making to the national championship game.
Mar 4, 2011 9:45pm
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Mar 4, 2011 11:06 PM
Rebel_ I.N.S.;699921 wrote:IMO that will never happen again in college basketball starting 5 true freshman & making to the national championship game.

You're right it never will happen again.
Mar 4, 2011 11:06pm
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Mar 5, 2011 12:25 AM
Not sure I understand all of this disdain for the Fab Five in which some here are reveling. (That could be, however, because Duke went 5-0 against the five freshman from that Michigan class, including a 20-point victory in the '92 national title game.) In fact, I love the bravado and in-your-face, Grandma-ma attitude that Webber, Rose, Howard, King and Jackson brought to the game. I even bought a Fab Five highlight video when I was in Ann Arbor for a Duke game in 2001. The Fab Five most certainly helped change the culture of basketball; Dynasty nailed it. Mitch Albom's remarkable account of these kids in the floppy yellow shorts and black socks, Fab Five: Basketball, Trash Talk and the American Dream, is a real page-turner that would entertain and enlighten any fan of college basketball, no matter allegiance.

But the Fab Five didn't introduce swagger to the college ranks. Not even close. No, that was Grandma-ma himself, Larry Johnson, and the 1990 and 1991 Vegas clubs. Talk about in your face. Those Runnin' Rebel teams weren't egomaniacs, as someone termed them earlier in this thread. They were public enemies. Those teams were so intimidating, nasty and dangerous, it was almost criminal to allow them to take the floor against anybody.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VnTqrg_lfI&feature=player_embedded#at=115
Mar 5, 2011 12:25am
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Mar 5, 2011 12:29 AM
Not sure I understand all of this disdain for the Fab Five in which some here are reveling. (That could be, however, because Duke went 5-0 against the five freshmen from that Michigan class, including a 20-point victory in the '92 national title game.) In fact, I love the bravado and in-your-face, Grandma-ma attitude that Webber, Rose, Howard, King and Jackson brought to the game. I even bought a Fab Five highlight video when I was in Ann Arbor for a Duke game in 2001. The Fab Five most certainly helped change the culture of basketball; Dynasty nailed it. Mitch Albom's remarkable account of these kids in the floppy yellow shorts and black socks, Fab Five: Basketball, Trash Talk and the American Dream, is a real page-turner that would entertain and enlighten any fan of college basketball, no matter allegiance.

But the Fab Five didn't introduce swagger to the college ranks. Not even close. No, that was Grandma-ma himself, Larry Johnson, and the 1990 and 1991 Vegas clubs. Talk about in your face. Those Runnin' Rebel teams weren't egomaniacs, as someone termed the Fab Five earlier in this thread. They were public enemies. Those teams were so intimidating, nasty and dangerous, it was almost criminal to allow them to take the floor against anybody.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VnTq...mbedded#at=115
Mar 5, 2011 12:29am
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Mar 5, 2011 7:01 AM
my favorite Fab Five moment (and this is after he walked!!!)

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Mar 5, 2011 7:01am
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Mar 13, 2011 7:31 AM
wkfan;699252 wrote:Honestly, I do not view these as good things.

While they were college players, the 'changes' that they brought about can be seen more in the NBA than in college. Due to changes like this, the NBA is mostly unwatchable, IMO.

Nah what made the NBA crappy was the lack of talent and emphasis on "team ball". Too many teams started trying to win with a collection of very good players and the talent in the 90s and early 2000s isn't nearly as good as what we're seeing now. The game is much more like it was in the 80s nowadays and the game is much better
Mar 13, 2011 7:31am
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Mar 13, 2011 10:15 AM
Classyposter58;709732 wrote:Nah what made the NBA crappy was the lack of talent and emphasis on "team ball". Too many teams started trying to win with a collection of very good players and the talent in the 90s and early 2000s isn't nearly as good as what we're seeing now. The game is much more like it was in the 80s nowadays and the game is much better

So the NBA is better when it's a bunch of egotistical individuals trying to score and look out for themselves?
Mar 13, 2011 10:15am
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Mar 13, 2011 10:17 AM
Lol we've had this argument like 90 times about old school basketball vs new school. Nobody is gonna change their mind
Mar 13, 2011 10:17am
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Mar 13, 2011 10:25 AM
Jim nantz loves the fab 5 lol... his little rant came out of nowhere yesterday
Mar 13, 2011 10:25am
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Mar 13, 2011 10:28 AM
Loved Jim Nantz comment yesterday during the OSU/UM game when they brought up the Fab 5 and this show..."they also destroyed the Michigan basketball program and should be remembered for that as well". lol Something many people fail to remember I guess. Not sure there is another sports team ever recognized as much as they are after the HUGE scandal and cheating that went on. Pretty pathetic if you ask me.
Mar 13, 2011 10:28am
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Mar 13, 2011 10:42 AM
centralbucksfan;709764 wrote:Loved Jim Nantz comment yesterday during the OSU/UM game when they brought up the Fab 5 and this show..."they also destroyed the Michigan basketball program and should be remembered for that as well". lol Something many people fail to remember I guess. Not sure there is another sports team ever recognized as much as they are after the HUGE scandal and cheating that went on. Pretty pathetic if you ask me.

Yeah, long shorts and attitude hardly makes up for the 20 year tailspin and mediocrity ever since.
Mar 13, 2011 10:42am
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Mar 13, 2011 12:11 PM
Anyone watch the documentary on UNLV last night on HBO?
Mar 13, 2011 12:11pm
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Mar 13, 2011 12:24 PM
centralbucksfan;709764 wrote:Loved Jim Nantz comment yesterday during the OSU/UM game when they brought up the Fab 5 and this show..."they also destroyed the Michigan basketball program and should be remembered for that as well". lol Something many people fail to remember I guess. Not sure there is another sports team ever recognized as much as they are after the HUGE scandal and cheating that went on. Pretty pathetic if you ask me.

heard that as well, and was surprised he said it--kudos, Mr. Nantz :cool:
Mar 13, 2011 12:24pm
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Mar 13, 2011 5:22 PM
WebFire;709754 wrote:So the NBA is better when it's a bunch of egotistical individuals trying to score and look out for themselves?

It's better when you have over a dozen elite players. Not everyone is an Allen Iverson although you're uneducated post tries to say that
Mar 13, 2011 5:22pm
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Mar 13, 2011 6:41 PM
Classyposter58;710214 wrote:It's better when you have over a dozen elite players. Not everyone is an Allen Iverson although you're uneducated post tries to say that

Uneducated? Says the guy who says "team ball" and lack of talent made 90s NBA worse than today.

Today's NBA is garbage.
Mar 13, 2011 6:41pm
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Mar 13, 2011 7:41 PM
Saw a tweet today about how the Fab 5 is looked upon as one of the all time greats, yet the back to back Florida team is hardly remembered, I thought that was a good point.

Regardless, I've been looking forward to this for a couple weeks now.
Mar 13, 2011 7:41pm
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Mar 13, 2011 8:55 PM
Wonder if they will show off their national championship rings? oops, nevermind.
Mar 13, 2011 8:55pm
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Mar 13, 2011 9:01 PM
superman;710927 wrote:Wonder if they will show off their national championship rings? oops, nevermind.

You know, that's the strange thing about it. They never won anything, yet all these years later we talk about them changing the game of basketball, etc. Odd, isn't it?
Mar 13, 2011 9:01pm
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Mar 13, 2011 9:11 PM
WebFire;710946 wrote:You know, that's the strange thing about it. They never won anything, yet all these years later we talk about them changing the game of basketball, etc. Odd, isn't it?

It really is. My fiance can name all 5 but can't name anyone from the back to back Florida championship teams.
Mar 13, 2011 9:11pm
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Mar 13, 2011 9:13 PM
WebFire;710946 wrote:You know, that's the strange thing about it. They never won anything, yet all these years later we talk about them changing the game of basketball, etc. Odd, isn't it?

That's really special.
Mar 13, 2011 9:13pm
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Mar 13, 2011 9:41 PM
Lol the people sending them racist letters are fucking stupid. From my experience with racism....I rarely get it to my face, its always over the internet, or through another person. If you're gonna be racist id rather you just have the balls to tell me to my face
Mar 13, 2011 9:41pm
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Mar 13, 2011 9:49 PM
WebFire;710946 wrote:You know, that's the strange thing about it. They never won anything, yet all these years later we talk about them changing the game of basketball, etc. Odd, isn't it?
They did change college basketball but the biggest thing that people remember them by was their cheating. I would be willing to bet if you randomly asked individuals about the fab5 the first thing they would say is that they got caught excepting money from boosters. Number 2 would probably be Weber's timeout that cost them a technical. Without those 2 things(assuming they don't win a championship) they would be looked at as a very good team but not nearly as remembered.
Mar 13, 2011 9:49pm
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Mar 13, 2011 10:18 PM
stroups;711055 wrote:They did change college basketball but the biggest thing that people remember them by was their cheating. I would be willing to bet if you randomly asked individuals about the fab5 the first thing they would say is that they got caught excepting money from boosters. Number 2 would probably be Weber's timeout that cost them a technical. Without those 2 things(assuming they don't win a championship) they would be looked at as a very good team but not nearly as remembered.
Probably true. That is what stood the test of time, unfortunately.
Mar 13, 2011 10:18pm
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Mar 13, 2011 10:19 PM
-Society-;710976 wrote:That's really special.

We aren't talking about special like you.

Mar 13, 2011 10:19pm
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Mar 13, 2011 10:24 PM
WebFire;710464 wrote:Uneducated? Says the guy who says "team ball" and lack of talent made 90s NBA worse than today.

Today's NBA is garbage.

Haha noo todays NBA is much like it was in the early 90s and 80s with one or two elite stars carrying the load surrounded by solid role players. The garbage ball you think of is teams like the Spurs who put you to sleep basically
Mar 13, 2011 10:24pm