Speedofsand
Posts: 5,529
Mar 2, 2011 5:09pm
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/the_bonus/02/27/cfb.crime/index.html
I didn't know Boise St. had so many thugs.
Only teams that were ranked preseason are in this list. I wonder how many schools have 0 like TCU.
I didn't know Boise St. had so many thugs.
Only teams that were ranked preseason are in this list. I wonder how many schools have 0 like TCU.

karen lotz
Posts: 22,284
Mar 2, 2011 5:13pm
I'll say it for sleeper...
Only in the Big Ten...
Only in the Big Ten...
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september63
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Mar 2, 2011 5:14pm
TCU has an ongoing lawsuit from a serious rape/cover up case from 2006 going right now. There is another thread about it somewhere here.
Speedofsand
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Mar 2, 2011 5:22pm
Yes. The videos on each page of the link are pretty informative. Andy Staples is in the first one, they mention Florida open record laws while getting little to no info in Texas and Calif.
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september63
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Mar 2, 2011 5:38pm
This number represents 7% of the athletes. What is the % of arrest records for a regular college student?
Speedofsand
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Mar 2, 2011 5:45pm
EDSBS counterpoint, not really valid comparing avg student arrest with this study of felonies.
http://www.everydayshouldbesaturday.com/2011/3/2/2024806/hey-we-can-see-the-whole-world-from-here
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http://www.everydayshouldbesaturday.com/2011/3/2/2024806/hey-we-can-see-the-whole-world-from-here
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september63
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Mar 2, 2011 5:49pm
Speedofsand;697680 wrote:EDSBS counterpoint, not really valid comparing avg student arrest with this study of felonies.
http://www.everydayshouldbesaturday.com/2011/3/2/2024806/hey-we-can-see-the-whole-world-from-here
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http://www.everydayshouldbesaturday.com/2011/3/2/2025480/fulmer-cupdate-four-kinds-of-tased
Huh? That first article backed up everything I said. It said a team of 80 football players has .5 more kids with a record than the general student body. Studies can make numbers look however they want to slant them.
Speedofsand
Posts: 5,529
Mar 2, 2011 6:06pm
Andy Staples in the first video said they threw out the small stuff. Compare avg students with felonies and violent records and I think its more than .5 difference.
It might be a coaches 'on the record' position to be careful what they say when discussing minors, they can't talk much about recruits until signed. They trust high school coaches. If a kid has a history, the recruiter's job is to know it.
It might be a coaches 'on the record' position to be careful what they say when discussing minors, they can't talk much about recruits until signed. They trust high school coaches. If a kid has a history, the recruiter's job is to know it.

Little Danny
Posts: 4,288
Mar 2, 2011 7:28pm
The thing is this report only lists the schools that were in the SI Pre-Season Top 10. There are probably a lot of teams that are not on the list who are just as bad if not worse than a lot of these offenders. Pitt, Arkansas and Iowa's figures are horrendous however. With 22 players that means 25% of the roster has a criminal record. Ouch!
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sportchampps
Posts: 7,361
Mar 2, 2011 9:25pm
I wonder which team in the history of college football has had the most players with a criminal record i would have to guess the hurricanes in the 80s or 90s
ptown_trojans_1
Posts: 7,632
Mar 2, 2011 10:50pm
7%. That is it?
Well, call me outraged lol.
Sure, 0 would have been nice, but honestly, 7% is far below what I would have expected.
And what is that compared to other sports, like basketball, lacrosse, etc.
Also, how does that compare to the NFL or other leagues?
Well, call me outraged lol.
Sure, 0 would have been nice, but honestly, 7% is far below what I would have expected.
And what is that compared to other sports, like basketball, lacrosse, etc.
Also, how does that compare to the NFL or other leagues?

goosebumps
Posts: 1,058
Mar 3, 2011 1:16pm
Not really sure why there's so much focus on Cincinnati in this article or the video. 5 players isn't bad at all. One of them has kept his nose clean for years and is now a model student whose on the deans list. You shouldn't keep kids off the team due to problems in their past. Sometimes getting away from the environment they grew up in is more than enough for these kids to get their life straightened out.
Speedofsand
Posts: 5,529
Mar 3, 2011 2:10pm
I thought it was a positive focus on Thompkins. Any kid that makes it out of Liberty City is a success story. Darling has character issues.
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the_system
Posts: 465
Mar 3, 2011 6:43pm
Boise isn't good because they're Boise. They're good because they get all of the good athletes that nobody else will (or can) touch. Most wouldn't have qualified academically elsewhere, or have a very troubled past.I didn't know Boise St. had so many thugs.
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mrtinkertrain
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Mar 6, 2011 8:11am
Sparty is no where on this list? They've had 15 felony arrests in the last two years!

karen lotz
Posts: 22,284
Mar 6, 2011 1:04pm
mrtinkertrain;700770 wrote:Sparty is no where on this list? They've had 15 felony arrests in the last two years!
I don't think they were ranked in the preseason polls were they? Those are the teams that are included in the report.
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Fidmeister
Posts: 249
Mar 9, 2011 1:13am
Speedofsand;697680 wrote:EDSBS counterpoint, not really valid comparing avg student arrest with this study of felonies.
http://www.everydayshouldbesaturday.com/2011/3/2/2024806/hey-we-can-see-the-whole-world-from-here
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http://www.everydayshouldbesaturday.com/2011/3/2/2025480/fulmer-cupdate-four-kinds-of-tased
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