http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/polls?poll=3

1. Duke, 746 points, 19 first-place votes
2. Kansas, 708, 1
3. Ohio State, 699, 4
4. San Diego State, 672, 3
5. Texas, 667, 0
6. Pittsburgh, 664, 4
7. BYU, 593, 0
8. Purdue, 562, 0
9. Notre Dame, 506, 0
10. Arizona, 461, 0

SDS just doesn't look right on this list, but their record says otherwise

Someone who is more intelligent than I, please inform me as to what in the hell Arizona has done to earn a top 10 ranking.

1 win against the RPI top 50, the majority of their wins are against teams above 100. They have a loss to Oregon State (225). To finish the regular season they only have 1 more game against a top 50 RPI.

Basically, while Arizona is good, they are about as proven as a team 2 games into a season in my opinion. They have beaten no one.

Not too surprising IMO. Those top 5/6 could be drawn out of a hat at this time. SDST is still a bit of a question mark. Don't get me wrong, they are good. But not sure they are as good as the other top 5 teams.

To finish the regular season they only have 1 more game against a top 50 RPI.

They do play a USC team that has beaten Texas handily and lost 70-68 at Kansas.

I think they will lose to both USC and UCLA on the road. So the conversation will end eventually in my opinion. But I just don't see how it is justified.

CinciX12 wrote:Someone who is more intelligent than I, please inform me as to what in the hell Arizona has done to earn a top 10 ranking.

Arizona doesn't have any OOC wins that pop out, unless you count a win at NC State, which was on the road in ACC country and the Pack does field a very athletic and talented group of players. The coaching of Sid Lowe is just dreadful. Outside of that, Arizona did play Kansas tough in Vegas earlier in the year, losing by single digits. But the Wildcats also got pummeled by Jimmer.

Mainly, I think Arizona has made the jump into the Top Ten due to the fact that the 'Cats have won eight straight in the Pac 10 (including last weekend over a very good Washington club) behind the rapid evolution of Derrick Williams into a NPOTY candidate type talent (being that Derrick plays at Arizona and in the Pac 10, his chances of getting that award are as good as one of the Boxcar Children's, maybe lower). However, he's a fantastic player, very versatile and is shooting 70% from three in Pac 10 play.

Arizona is actually a team that I think can make a surprise Elite Eight run, if Williams gets hot ala Salim Stoudamire and the 'Cats designated outside gunners are hitting. That's the problem, though, Williams is the only big scorer Arizona has to count on.

AP Poll seems to better in terms of where I would have put teams.
1. Duke
2. OSU
3. Kansas
4. Pitt
5. Texas
6. SDST

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/basketball/ncaa/02/21/ap.poll.duke.ap/index.html?eref=sihp

centralbucksfan;686056 wrote:AP Poll seems to better in terms of where I would have put teams.
1. Duke
2. OSU
3. Kansas
4. Pitt
5. Texas
6. SDST

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/basketball/ncaa/02/21/ap.poll.duke.ap/index.html?eref=sihp

That makes much more sense to me.

centralbucksfan;686056 wrote:AP Poll seems to better in terms of where I would have put teams.
1. Duke
2. OSU
3. Kansas
4. Pitt
5. Texas
6. SDST

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/basketball/ncaa/02/21/ap.poll.duke.ap/index.html?eref=sihp

OneBuckeye;686102 wrote:That makes much more sense to me.

agreed

CinciX12;685822 wrote:Someone who is more intelligent than I, please inform me as to what in the hell Arizona has done to earn a top 10 ranking.

1 win against the RPI top 50, the majority of their wins are against teams above 100. They have a loss to Oregon State (225). To finish the regular season they only have 1 more game against a top 50 RPI.

Basically, while Arizona is good, they are about as proven as a team 2 games into a season in my opinion. They have beaten no one.

That's all I had to add to this thread. Thanks for saving me the time.

Well no one else wants to enter the top 10, so if Arizona keeps winning, why not have them there?

SportsAndLady;686156 wrote:Well no one else wants to enter the top 10, so if Arizona keeps winning, why not have them there?

For the same reasons Coastal Carolina and Belmont shouldn't be in there, on a less extreme scale.

ccrunner609;686174 wrote:Texas does not deserve to be ranked above SDST, You lose you should be punished.

So why did OSU move up a spot after losing? Where's the outrage over that?

ccrunner609;686174 wrote:I also agree about Arizona.....other teams are beating better opponents.

Yes but those teams are also losing games they shouldn't...Arizona isn't

Mulva;686177 wrote:For the same reasons Coastal Carolina and Belmont shouldn't be in there, on a less extreme scale.

When those teams reach the top 15 in RPI, then we'll talk

SportsAndLady;686178 wrote:So why did OSU move up a spot after losing? Where's the outrage over that?

I believe OSU is where they were in last weeks rankings, #2 AP, #3 coaches.

centralbucksfan;686182 wrote:I believe OSU is where they were in last weeks rankings, #2 AP, #3 coaches.

You're right, got the 2 polls mixed up.

Ha Arizona is a 23-4 major conference team. What's wrong with putting them in the top 10?

A loss to Purdue, the #8 team in the country at their place is better than a win against Georgia Tech. What a freakin' joke.

A loss to Purdue, the #8 team in the country at their place is better than a win against Georgia Tech. What a freakin' joke.

The only joke is that you believe that.

A loss, no matter who it was to, is never better than a win.

wildcats20;686269 wrote:The only joke is that you believe that.

A loss, no matter who it was to, is never better than a win.

Then why is San Diego State not #1? They have less losses, and if ANY win is better than a loss, strength of schedule has nothing to do with it.

sleeper;686274 wrote:Then why is San Diego State not #1? They have less losses, and if ANY win is better than a loss, strength of schedule has nothing to do with it.

So that would make SDSU better than OSU right?

Classyposter58;686225 wrote:Ha Arizona is a 23-4 major conference team. What's wrong with putting them in the top 10?

The only thing major about the Pac-10 is it's name.

Mulva;686309 wrote:The only thing major about the Pac-10 is it's name.

This x1010383838283823

Even though, I think Zona can make some noise.

wildcats20;686306 wrote:So that would make SDSU better than OSU right?

According to your logic, yes. According to mine, no.