Federal judge declares entire Obamacare law void

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Jan 31, 2011 3:24 PM
26 states get a favorable ruling in challenging the Obamacare law. Judge says, "because the individual mandate is unconstitutional and not severable, the entire Act must be declared void."

Link to story.

Not a good week for BHO. First Egypt and now this.
Jan 31, 2011 3:24pm
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Jan 31, 2011 3:30 PM
A great first step.

Hopefully, the Supremes agree.
Jan 31, 2011 3:30pm
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Jan 31, 2011 3:33 PM
This happened in Va. a few weeks ago too.
Not unexpected and will go the Supreme Court.
Jan 31, 2011 3:33pm
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Jan 31, 2011 3:37 PM
Doesn't mean anything. This was always going to the Supreme Court.
Jan 31, 2011 3:37pm
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Jan 31, 2011 3:39 PM
I'm pretty sure the score is 2-2 with 2 judges ruling for and 2 judges ruling against the law suits. My hope is that the Supreme Court upholds today's ruling in Florida.
Jan 31, 2011 3:39pm
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Jan 31, 2011 3:47 PM
Apple;659332 wrote:I'm pretty sure the score is 2-2 with 2 judges ruling for and 2 judges ruling against the law suits. My hope is that the Supreme Court upholds today's ruling in Florida.
If they don't, then the SCOTUS has a problem. It should be a slam-dunk decision.
Jan 31, 2011 3:47pm
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Jan 31, 2011 4:11 PM
:cool: I'm going to have a beer....or 2...to celebrate. :D
Jan 31, 2011 4:11pm
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Jan 31, 2011 4:12 PM
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Jan 31, 2011 4:12pm
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Jan 31, 2011 4:31 PM
Full text of the ruling.
Jan 31, 2011 4:31pm
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All that typing must be makin ya thirsty.....
Jan 31, 2011 4:33pm
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Jan 31, 2011 4:33 PM
This is great news!

Now, hopefully, a real Health Care Reform proposal will be drafted instead of one that is full of entitlements and payola......one that takes a few good ideas from this bill (insurance for pre-existing conditions, etc) and couples that with tort reform and other non-solialistic provisions that will really benefit all of the citizens of the United States.
Jan 31, 2011 4:33pm
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Jan 31, 2011 4:43 PM
Devils Advocate;659412 wrote:All that typing must be makin ya thirsty.....
No truer words have ever been uttered! :)
Jan 31, 2011 4:43pm
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Jan 31, 2011 4:46 PM
barry must have seen it coming which is why he gave all his union pals waivers ..........

For the sake of the nation, and in the interest of maintaining the best health care in the world, this must be upheld.
Jan 31, 2011 4:46pm
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Jan 31, 2011 4:55 PM
Pretty sure Avatar won the Golden Globe for best picture.
Jan 31, 2011 4:55pm
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Jan 31, 2011 6:03 PM
wkfan;659413 wrote:This is great news!

Now, hopefully, a real Health Care Reform proposal will be drafted instead of one that is full of entitlements and payola......one that takes a few good ideas from this bill (insurance for pre-existing conditions, etc) and couples that with tort reform and other non-solialistic provisions that will really benefit all of the citizens of the United States.
Don't forget the ability of businesses and individuals to purchase health insurance across state lines.

This is very good news indeed. You can be sure all the leftist media babbling skulls will spew venom about this one for days. LMFAO
Jan 31, 2011 6:03pm
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Jan 31, 2011 9:09 PM
Very happy about this. I hope the supreme courts get it done.
Jan 31, 2011 9:09pm
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Jan 31, 2011 10:26 PM
wkfan;659413 wrote:This is great news!

Now, hopefully, a real Health Care Reform proposal will be drafted instead of one that is full of entitlements and payola......one that takes a few good ideas from this bill (insurance for pre-existing conditions, etc) and couples that with tort reform and other non-solialistic provisions that will really benefit all of the citizens of the United States.

Sorry, but no session of Congress has bothered to tackle this until the most recent one. My prediction is that the SCOTUS will strike it down and any kind of true health care reform will be dead for the next 30 years. There's simply too much money involved for conservative members of Congress to bother fooling with it. It wasn't important to them before, why should it be so now?
Jan 31, 2011 10:26pm
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Jan 31, 2011 10:53 PM
Personally I don't see how Justice Scalia is going to escape his reasoning in regards to the scope of the commerce clause in Gonzales v. Raich from which upholding the Affordable Care and Patient Protection Act would seem to follow IMO. If that's true, I think you'll see a 6-3 opinion supporting Obamacare.
Jan 31, 2011 10:53pm
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Jan 31, 2011 10:57 PM
"Speech is an essential mechanism of democracy, for it is the means to hold officials accountable to the people." LOL

Since when did large corporations become people under the U.S. Constitution?
Jan 31, 2011 10:57pm
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Jan 31, 2011 11:09 PM
september63;660046 wrote:"Speech is an essential mechanism of democracy, for it is the means to hold officials accountable to the people." LOL

Since when did large corporations become people under the U.S. Constitution?

They actually are considered persons. They have rights just like you and me.
Jan 31, 2011 11:09pm
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Jan 31, 2011 11:54 PM
I Wear Pants;660065 wrote:They actually are considered persons. They have rights just like you and me.
They can't vote.
Jan 31, 2011 11:54pm
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Feb 1, 2011 12:03 AM
No they can't vote but they are considered persons.
Feb 1, 2011 12:03am
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Feb 1, 2011 12:08 AM
Members that are American citizens can vote.
Feb 1, 2011 12:08am
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ccrunner609;660059 wrote:6-3....................not a chance, congress cant use the commerce clause to punish "NOT" doing anything within or lack thereof in the ecomnomy. The SCOTUS is going to make this call against the congressional abuse of the commerce clause.

If they uphold this mandate on health care, they are setting up the ability of the government to control everything we do with commerce. Doing nothing should be an option that cannot be touched.
The only way the bill gets upheld as is will be if the Supreme Court rejects the decision at the top of this thread because they don't agree that one part of it makes the entire piece of legislation void. That's really the only thing that even has a chance of hanging this up.
Feb 1, 2011 12:56am
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Feb 1, 2011 1:09 AM
Just out of curiosity, when did we ever see a conservative demand real and meaningful health care for the people of this nation prior to being presented with an actual bill that provided it under "Obamacare"? There was not even a whimper from the conservatives until now. It leads me to believe that the conservatives were perfectly happy before all of this "Obamacare" rattled their cages enough to start their bellowing about big government interference, socialism, communism, and all the other fear mongering terms they are so good at. They had no plan because they were not the ones living without health care. They still aren't. They were (are) the ones who voted to subsidize huge corporations who mismanaged their way to oblivion, only to award their disgraced executives huge golden parachute escape clauses from any responsibility for their
horrendous mismanagement and subsequent rewards. These are the same people that claim that Obama's health care plan is socialism. Wow , when you think about it, it boggles the mind. I'm thinking that the conservatives are hoping and praying that the SCOTUS goes along with them and kills health care once again. I don't think the Supreme Court will find for them. If they don't, be prepared to hear how the liberal media caused the vote to turn out the way it did." Always excuses, never a real plan". By God, I think I've just created a slogan that accurately describes the conservative health care plan if they are elected in 2012.
Feb 1, 2011 1:09am