Guy Fired for Wearing Packers Neck Tie

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Jan 25, 2011 6:58 PM
Unless they have a dress code that says "no Packers ties" he can a Packers tie if he chooses to.
Jan 25, 2011 6:58pm
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Jan 25, 2011 7:00 PM
I dunno... if they have something that is like "appropriate attire" they could say that he violated that rule. I think it's kinda bogus, but I'm a Packer Backer :)
Jan 25, 2011 7:00pm
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Jan 25, 2011 7:09 PM
Also, if he has worn the tie before, they have no case. Because then they can't say it was inappropriate.
Jan 25, 2011 7:09pm
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Jan 25, 2011 7:19 PM
I think it was justified

1) The dealership donates $20,000 a month to the bears organization for a sponsorship so they obviously want to connect themselves with them.

2) This guy is not stuffed in some cubicle working on some excel spreadsheet all day. He is a direct representation of the company and wearing that tie is only going to cause trouble. I know it's stupid to get pissed at somebody for wearing other teams apparel, but why even put yourself in that situation? If you wanted to show your respect to your grandmother then wear some packers boxers or an undershirt.

3) The guy was told MULTIPLE times to take it off and he refused. The boss pretty much gave him an ultimatum of wearing the tie or losing his job and he took the later.
Jan 25, 2011 7:19pm
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Jan 25, 2011 7:36 PM
I'm with stroups. Also, he became a packer fan because of Ahman Green...lolwhat???
Jan 25, 2011 7:36pm
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Jan 25, 2011 7:45 PM
Heard the guy interviewed today on the radio. His mother passed last week and they buried her Friday. He said it was in honor of her who was a lifelong fan. Sounds like a little spin after the fact to me but that's his story.
Jan 25, 2011 7:45pm
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Jan 25, 2011 7:49 PM
He didn't get fired for wearing the neck tie IMO, he got fired for disobeying/defying/disrespecting his superior. Sir Yes Sir is what you say when your boss requests something regarding your attire.
Jan 25, 2011 7:49pm
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Jan 25, 2011 7:49 PM
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Jan 25, 2011 7:49pm
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Jan 25, 2011 7:49 PM
stroups;652926 wrote:I think it was justified

1) The dealership donates $20,000 a month to the bears organization for a sponsorship so they obviously want to connect themselves with them.

2) This guy is not stuffed in some cubicle working on some excel spreadsheet all day. He is a direct representation of the company and wearing that tie is only going to cause trouble. I know it's stupid to get pissed at somebody for wearing other teams apparel, but why even put yourself in that situation? If you wanted to show your respect to your grandmother then wear some packers boxers or an undershirt.

3) The guy was told MULTIPLE times to take it off and he refused. The boss pretty much gave him an ultimatum of wearing the tie or losing his job and he took the later.
This, it'd be different if they simply fired him without asking to take it off. But if they viewed it as against company policy or bad for their image and wanted him to take it off then he definitely should have done so.
Jan 25, 2011 7:49pm
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Jan 25, 2011 7:57 PM
He's got another gig already so it doesn't look like he'll be filing charges or anything, but if he's stupid enough not to conform then we'll likely just have to wait and see.
Jan 25, 2011 7:57pm
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Jan 25, 2011 8:25 PM
wildcats20;652916 wrote:Also, if he has worn the tie before, they have no case. Because then they can't say it was inappropriate.

From a legal perspective, you're incorrect. Unless one is working under a bona fide employment contract, the concept of at-will employment applies. The employer can fire the employee for any reason not specifically prohibited by law (race, religion, etc., etc.).

From a human perspective, it was a bitch move by the dealership to make a big deal out of a tie, and a bonehead move by the sales weasel to choose to die on that particular hill.
Jan 25, 2011 8:25pm
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Jan 25, 2011 8:39 PM
To be honest, I don't think that car saleman gave a shit what his boss said.
Jan 25, 2011 8:39pm
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Jan 25, 2011 8:45 PM
stroups;652926 wrote:I think it was justified

1) The dealership donates $20,000 a month to the bears organization for a sponsorship so they obviously want to connect themselves with them.

2) This guy is not stuffed in some cubicle working on some excel spreadsheet all day. He is a direct representation of the company and wearing that tie is only going to cause trouble. I know it's stupid to get pissed at somebody for wearing other teams apparel, but why even put yourself in that situation? If you wanted to show your respect to your grandmother then wear some packers boxers or an undershirt.

3) The guy was told MULTIPLE times to take it off and he refused. The boss pretty much gave him an ultimatum of wearing the tie or losing his job and he took the later.
Completely agree.
Jan 25, 2011 8:45pm
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Jan 25, 2011 9:40 PM
Didn't his boss say if it was worn on Saturday, it wouldn't have been an issue? Stupid.
Jan 25, 2011 9:40pm
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Jan 25, 2011 11:10 PM
I could see a lawsuit coming out of this, but at the same time, he didn't really get fired for wearing the tie, he got fired for insubordination.
Jan 25, 2011 11:10pm
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Jan 25, 2011 11:17 PM
At first glance of this I thought what a crock ,but After hearing the story I understand better ... It is a Chicago dealorship they are a Bears sponsor maybe a few Bears are on some commercials .. dont know .. In any case because its sales, It is detrimental to the business being it is a Chicago dealorship .. You cant wear that stuff .. Its like delivering pizza for Dominos in a pizza hut uniform ... Its like workinf at Pepsi and drinking Coke for lunch .. Its disrespectful ... I do think he should have been sent home perhaps .. It sounded like it was a rash .... I do think the guy wearing the tie did this to start something ... He is a knucklehead any way you look at it ... He is getting his 15 minutes....... If I went to a Pittsburgh dealorship the day after the Browns beat us in a playoff game and some joker was wearing a Browns tie .. guess what I am imidiatly walking out and going down the street to the other place
Jan 25, 2011 11:17pm
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Jan 26, 2011 1:05 AM
sleeper;653532 wrote:I could see a lawsuit coming out of this, but at the same time, he didn't really get fired for wearing the tie, he got fired for insubordination.

If that's the case, your boss could fire you for denying a request to remove your pants LOL....O_O
Jan 26, 2011 1:05am
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Jan 26, 2011 1:24 AM
what is this world coming to...
Jan 26, 2011 1:24am
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Jan 26, 2011 10:33 AM
As is always the case...he did not get fired for wearing the Packer tie.

he got fired because he refused to take it off when he was asked by management.

There is a difference.

Justified
Jan 26, 2011 10:33am
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Jan 26, 2011 10:49 AM
This is just a prime example of a real life troll getting sent to the basement.
Jan 26, 2011 10:49am
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Jan 26, 2011 12:21 PM
I can understand why they wouldn't want him wearing it, but to fire him seems like overkill. Especially since they have received a lot of backlash/negative attention. It would have been much easier just to tell him to go home for the rest of the day
Jan 26, 2011 12:21pm
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Jan 26, 2011 12:26 PM
hoops23;653739 wrote:If that's the case, your boss could fire you for denying a request to remove your pants LOL....O_O

Good point. I have no counter.
Jan 26, 2011 12:26pm
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Jan 26, 2011 12:28 PM
thavoice;653973 wrote:As is always the case...he did not get fired for wearing the Packer tie.

he got fired because he refused to take it off when he was asked by management.

There is a difference.

Justified

This right here.
Jan 26, 2011 12:28pm
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Jan 26, 2011 1:33 PM
jordo212000;654101 wrote:I can understand why they wouldn't want him wearing it, but to fire him seems like overkill. Especially since they have received a lot of backlash/negative attention. It would have been much easier just to tell him to go home for the rest of the day

While I don't know the situation I would guess this guy is the office douche that nobody liked anyways. I don't imagine the guy would just do something controversial like this out of the blue one time and get fired like that.
Jan 26, 2011 1:33pm